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Friend's rude wife

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NeverEnoughJs · 12/12/2021 20:29

Not sure what to do here. My (male) friend's wife is openly aggressive towards me, friend puts it down to her being 'naturally abrasive' and 'slightly deaf' but my DH says she's definitely rude to me. Other mutual friends say she is noticeably more rude to me than anyone else, but indicate that they're not keen on her either as she is generally quite unpleasant.

After 10 years of 'just trying a bit harder to get along' I now operate on a three strikes rule with her, three horrible comments in a row and I stop engaging in the conversation, physically walk away or less frequently, stand up for myself. She is one of those people who picks holes in whatever you say, so disengaging is the easiest option.

It has come to a head this week when she cornered me in the loos and told me to leave a public event we were attending as a (smaller) group, I was there by myself with a mutual friend and her DH. I did the goldfish thing and then left because of how aggressive she was, and I presume she then pretended she didn't know where I was, which led to a lot of drama. I had already said during the week I would do my own thing at said event but then bumped into the other three in the car park on the way in, and felt too awkward to walk away.

I feel like I can't just keep putting up with this to keep the peace and it's actually really upsetting for me to have to defend my right to hang out with friends I've known 30+ years. I also don't like exposing my DC to her behaviour, although DH and I try to use it as a teachable moment when she starts.

I am very close to calling it a day with my entire friendship group because of how awful she makes everything, but her DH is adamant it's in my head, and says they are a package deal so he can't come to group stuff by himself. WWYD?

OP posts:
DaisyNGO · 13/12/2021 13:00

[quote Themummilly]@NeverEnoughJs you need to ask her about the tall tales she thinks you have been saying.[/quote]
It's just bollocks to wind up OP.

Turkishangora · 13/12/2021 13:07

@AngelinaFibres

I read an article once about spring cleaning your friendships now and again. I had a couple of friends who I had met at teacher training college. There were 4 of us and one woman and I are still close friends. The relationship with the other two became really odd. I had known them for 30 years so I just thought I should be friends because thats how it always was but actually every time I saw I felt really crap. The article made me realise that sometimes things have run their course and it's time to let go. The writer also said thtat spending time with a friend should make you feel uplifted and happy. I feel so much happier without the 2 of them. Perhaps it is time for you to do the same with some or all of this group. They do not appear to bring sunshine and jollity into your life OP
This is very good advice. Just because something has "always" been there doesn't mean it should stay. I'm trying to extricate myself from a 10 year friendship that has become toxic, every time I spend time with her I leave feeling stressed and drained and annoyed with myself about why I put up with her shitty behaviour towards me. I'm struggling with distancing myself from her, it's saying something that I can't just make the break as I'm usually quite assertive! I think she might start getting the message when I decline the yearly invite to her birthday party, I've always hated them but forced myself to go out of "loyalty".
crosshatching · 13/12/2021 13:09

Just let this fizzle again OP, neither of them are worth your time or energy. You gave it another go and fair enough, but if nothing has changed now, it won't. Whatever the reason for her unpleasantness, it's her problem, let them go.

Honeyroar · 13/12/2021 13:13

I was going to say pretty much what AngelinaFibres said!

A friendship should make you feel good and have your back. You shouldn't come away feeling upset. But when it's a long friendship it's difficult to realise that because you focus on the past and not the present.

It took my husband being really ill to make me realise who were my true friends and who weren't there for me. I quietly stepped back from the ones that weren't, and have barely heard from them at all in nearly three years.

I think I'd step back again. If your friend says he misses you just say you tried a second time and it just wasn't nice spending time with the group as things were. That you've not fallen out, you just don't want to go through the drama anymore. Leave him to reflect. You don't have to deal with his wife, he does. If he's happy his wife speaks to his friends that way he will lose some along the way. He has to work that out himself!

Honeyroar · 13/12/2021 13:13

And I was nearly 50 before I realised this!

Nevertime · 13/12/2021 13:17

It took my husband being really ill to make me realise who were my true friends and who weren't there for me. I quietly stepped back from the ones that weren't, and have barely heard from them at all in nearly three years.

Yes, I had a group of couple friends who were "always" there for each other. Until DH got ill and we couldn't go on the nights out anymore and then died and I didn't fit the couple structure. I've hardly heard from any of them in the last 18 months.

It's actually been much easier than I expected to fill the gap they left. Lots of previous acquaintances have become friends and I've realised that actually my old friendship group was quite cliquey to the exclusion of some really good people Blush

TheSecondMrsAshwell · 13/12/2021 13:53

I had this once. A colleague of mine - who worked in an office at the other end of the country - was coming to London and I was going to meet him to pick up a t-shirt I'd asked him to buy for me. Quick drink, that was it. And the bonus was I would get to meet his AMAZING girlfriend. He'd told me so much about her. I was really looking forward to it on the basis that he was so nice, she must be fabulous. Mustn't she?

No.

She was a sourfaced, snappy, snooty, rude bitch. I wasn't even worth a mono-syllable in reply to any attempt to include her in the conversation.

I just hope he didn't marry her.

YouokHun · 13/12/2021 14:00

@Nevertime and @Honeyroar difficult times in life are when you find out who your friends really are - ain’t that the truth!

My DF died recently and I have been truly shocked and hurt that one of my friends I saw every week and who knew my DF (we all live in the same village) has never even acknowledged his illness and death (which was eight months ago). I’ve realised now on reflection that she only contacts me when she wants information about others’ circumstances and is only interested in intel about others’ lives, without really giving a damn. She would WhatsApp me to ask if I’d heard such and such gossip [which I never had heard and wouldn’t pass on anyway] and just never mention my DF even though she know he’d died. Never at any point would she say or has she ever said “sorry to hear about your Dad”. It’s bizarre.

So I agree that it is necessary to reappraise friendships which can become habitual and continue even when they aren’t a positive in life or when the balance is out and values are not shared. They should definitely be reappraised when they are plain unkind as is the case for OP.

It seems to me that OP’s male friend wants to keep the friendship going regardless of the price OP has to pay. It’s just not the act of a friend and neither are others acting like friends, who should be standing up to bad behaviour. With my former friend, I’ve not had a conversation and I’ve stopped responding to WhatsApp. I’ve just decided not to waste any more time and to put my time into other friendships - I would do that in your case @NeverEnoughJs

AngelinaFibres · 13/12/2021 14:00

@Honeyroar

And I was nearly 50 before I realised this!
53 for me Smile
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