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Slept with manager. What happens now?

712 replies

whatdoidonow11 · 07/12/2021 09:20

Please be gentle. I am not in a good place.

I need some advice, I don't have anyone to talk to about this.

I started a new job early this year. Had to take some sick time due to my mental health in the spring - this was due to struggles with my marriage breakdown. My team leader kept in touch while I was off and I ended up confiding in him, as he is also recently divorced. When we first met, I admit I was drawn to him. I fancied him but decided not to do anything about it. One because he's my manager, and two because I just didn't feel like I needed the stress.

After I went back to work we carried on chatting, in work as well as outside. I was aware we were crossing a boundary.

I've been feeling very low and one evening I asked him if he wanted to go for a drink sometime in the run up to Christmas. He replied and said we could, but in a professional sense only.

I'm really not sure what happened from there, but he basically teased out what I meant by going for a drink. I genuinely meant going for a drink, but I obviously do fancy him as well. It turned flirty. The chat was flirty since then, we kept in touch during the day, he'd ask me how my day was/about my life. Tell me I was beautiful, I enjoyed the attention

A couple of weeks later we ended up in bed. I stayed for a few days at his house, he invited me to. To be honest it was lovely and I wanted to do it again. I wasn't really thinking about the consequences.. on the way home I text him something a bit cringe about having a nice time and wanting it to 'go somewhere' I might have been caught up in the moment. I do like him. I don't sleep with people I don't like and I'd like something to develop.

However he's now ghosted me. I can contact him on text about work but he doesn't respond on what's app. He told me he had a big interview coming up and he was feeling stressed. I understand this and have left him to it, bar a few messages which he's not responded to. He didn't reply to my good morning text the day after we slept together

I get that I've been used but what happens now? He is in the office two days a week and the rest from home so I don't see him every day. But I'm dreading seeing him.

I feel like there's something wrong with me .. with my body, my personality? I wish he could've just told me he does not wish to see me again. Why couldn't he do that? He's my manager....

Now I feel like I've lost the support of my manager and feel a bit alone at work. I'm also wondering whether he does this with other colleagues. He's been in his role 20 years...

I feel really down and alone. Please be gentle, I know how stupid I've been.

OP posts:
Yummypumpkin · 10/12/2021 07:49

Please just focus on this job, or getting a new job.

Youve had a small glimpse of what can happen when you bring sex into a work relationship. It could have been worse.

Really...just be professional and don't contemplate, encourage or initiate 'picking it up again' whilst you work together.

supercali77 · 10/12/2021 07:52

If you feel weird about it dont let him keep being in charge of how that plays out. If he keeps saying things like you're great, how are you?. Be direct 'im fine and thank you for enquiring, but given what happened between us, and you being my line manager I think its best if we don't talk about anything beyond work from now on'

tistheseeson · 10/12/2021 07:53

I feel like you could quite easily become his booty call if you let him. He knows you'll fall into line and rock the boat if he picks you up and drops you. He's done it once and he could do it again.

Listen to the advice on here. Focus on work and forget him.

Cheerbear24 · 10/12/2021 07:58

@tistheseeson

I feel like you could quite easily become his booty call if you let him. He knows you'll fall into line and rock the boat if he picks you up and drops you. He's done it once and he could do it again.

Listen to the advice on here. Focus on work and forget him.

Yes to this ^ after treating you shittily, he’s testing the waters with a bit of flattery to see if you’ll go back to him. So don’t! Keep everything 100% professional from now on, completely ignore what happened.
Sleephappy · 10/12/2021 07:59

The issue is he’s not contacting you on anything other than work messenger?
He’s saying your doing a good job etc it sounds like he’s trying to smooth things over after the training issue. He’s probably pretty nervous how you might react professionally now and is reassuring you about work.
Unless he’s contacting you outside work to meet or continue anything then he’s not interested. So just leave it and definitely don’t send him any messages Op.

VitalsStable · 10/12/2021 08:06

He's trying to stave off any legal shit coming his way after his recent behaviour, he didn't expect you to act like you did with regards to chasing up the training and now after realising you have a voice is scared. Throwing you a bone.

Or he's just feeling a bit shitty about the way he has treated you and is trying to absolve himself. But he does not want a relationship with you.

Either way you really need to stop over thinking this for your own good, he is a colleague that you had sex with and that it, go back to treating it just as that and get on with your life. Do not attach any meaning to anything he said in the message, he does not want a relationship with you, he does not want to have sex with you again and other than being a colleague you mean nothing more to him.

I tell my clients they're great, God even the postman and I imagine your boss tells numerous people a day, please don't see this innocuous message to mean he's the next love of your life and you're going to live happily ever after.

beastlyslumber · 10/12/2021 08:16

WFH is a good thing for you right now! Avoid him completely. Don't message him. Just don't. It will only make things worse/more complicated/more confusing for you.

He's messaged you encouragingly about work because he's scared you're going to kick off about what happened between you, or maybe he feels guilty. Either way, he is NOT saying he wants to be in a relationship with you or pick up where you left off.

You have to see him as your manager. You made a mistake in having sex with him. It's done now. You're WFH so you have a chance to completely avoid seeing/speaking to him until next year. Use the time to focus on friends/family/hobbies and when you go back to the office, this should all be completely forgotten.

whatdoidonow11 · 10/12/2021 08:19

Oh, sorry I should say, I'm not able to wfh as yet but he has been working from home. However despite the rules coming into force next week he told the team he will still be coming into the office. Maybe he hasn't got the memo 🙄
What I mean is if he is wfh all week it would probably be good for me

OP posts:
NdujaWannaDance · 10/12/2021 08:21

‘What I can't get my head around (and what a lot of PPs seem to be ignoring) is that this was a bit more than an office flirtation that let to a quick sh*g.’

But it wasn't though - that's the thing. An office flirtation that led to a quick shag (albeit spread over two or three days) is exactly what it was, and all it was. It's crushing when things like that don't go your way. It's humiliating but it's normal. It happens to most of us at least once.

They don’t seem to be ignoring, they definitely are ignoring the details and nuances of the situation

But there aren't any nuances. They had a friendship of sorts spread out over a period of months that was purely office based, it never progressed outside of work beyond texting. The texting then increased and became more personal and flirty in nature. It's not somehow different and more meaningful than a million other office flirtations that briefly move to the next level before one party loses interest. The OP seems to think it is different, but it's not. Perhaps she's just naive and inexperienced after coming out of a marriage and needs to revise her expectations.

The tone and language of some of the posts on this thread is just cruel and the misogyny and obvious pleasure taken in instructing OP what she has done wrong and how she is and isn’t allowed to feel now is absolutely pathetic in it’s desperation.

What purpose would it serve the OP if we all queued up to say what an absolute shit he was? How he must have planned it that way all along just for the kicks, how he obviously had no integrity, took advantage when she was vulnerable, was a player, a cliche, blah blah. For a start, we have no idea if it's true. It might be, but even if it is, we are doing her a favour by telling her she needs to chalk it up to experience. Not encouraging her to see herself as the victim of a cad and a liar who 'tricked her' or took advantage of her while she was feeling vulnerable. Don't we have more agency than that, for goodness sake? She's a divorced 39 year old, not a 17 year old virgin.

We've all been through it at some point. It's a case of what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Have some diginity and move on.

The best thing you could do OP is stop all non-essential communication but continue to speak to him politely and breezily as though nothing has happened. Be more detached, but not so detached that he knows he's got to you. If he is a player, don't give him the satisfaction of knowing he is occupying so much headspace.

As has been pointed out on this thread, women and men are both entitled to sleep with someone or in some other way get more intimate with them, and then upon reflection, realise that taking it further is not what they want. Unless they have already spent a significant amount of time together then they shouldn't have to explain why. Honestly, as bewildering and humilating as having someone go all cool on you is, who would really prefer them to contact you with a run-down of all the reasons why you won't be going through to the next round? Detailed explanations are what you give when you've been sleeping with someone for a solid six months, not a matter of days.

As humilating as it is if you are the one left feeling rejected, no-one owes you anything more at this stage.

Who wants to spend a weekend or two dates or a ONS with someone and then hear 'Thanks, but I don't think I'll be doing it again because quite honestly......

You have a pretty face but once your clothes were off I wasn't that into your body.

You talk too much.

You are sexy as hell but really boring/thick.

I didn't like the way you spoke to the waiting staff when we went for dinner.

I didn't like that you didn't even offer to go Dutch over dinner, even though you were the one that suggested dinner.

You have terrible table manners and chew with your mouth open.

Your personal hygiene isn't great and I didn't realise until I slept with you.

Your feet gross me out. I didn't know that until I saw you naked.

You have an annoying laugh.

You are way too needy. You texted me three times the day after we first had sex, even though I told you I was at my brother's wedding /Nan's funeral and would be busy all day.

I don't like the way you talk about how all your exes are toxic. I'm not going there just for you to tell everyone I'm toxic when we break up.

You are a bit self absorbed and shallow.

You seem like a crashing snob.

You started talking about introducing me to your kids and your parents already, when we cuddling after shag 2. Woah there!

I got the impression you were far too interested in how much I earned.

You swear too much. I don't like casual swearing.

I've realised you have terrible grammar and it really grates on me. It would be wrong of me to expect you to change that about yourself for me, so there is no point persuing this.

Seriously, If someone said anything like that to you after the briefest of flings or just one or two dates you'd think they were rude, cruel and a bit nuts.

And is a polite but vague 'Sorry, you are a nice girl but this isn't going to work for me, so I won't be seeing you again' really any better for our feelings than 'Sorry I didn't answer your five messages, I'm really busy and stressed with work at the moment so it's best if we leave it.'

We all know it means the same thing. Why make someone spell it out?

beastlyslumber · 10/12/2021 08:26

@whatdoidonow11

Oh, sorry I should say, I'm not able to wfh as yet but he has been working from home. However despite the rules coming into force next week he told the team he will still be coming into the office. Maybe he hasn't got the memo 🙄 What I mean is if he is wfh all week it would probably be good for me
Okay but whatever his reason for coming into the office, please be clear that it is NOT to see you.

If he was into you, he would have made that clear. He actually made it very clear that he isn't into you (and that he's a dickhead, imo).

You will obviously have to face seeing him but just be professional, civil, and do not engage in any conversation other than work.

billy1966 · 10/12/2021 08:36

@Yummypumpkin

Please just focus on this job, or getting a new job.

Youve had a small glimpse of what can happen when you bring sex into a work relationship. It could have been worse.

Really...just be professional and don't contemplate, encourage or initiate 'picking it up again' whilst you work together.

This OP.

Just move one.

Messing in the office more often than not, ends badly.

If this job is paying well, knuckle down and move past this.

Be polite and professional and stick to the job.

I hope you feel better soon.
Mind yourself.Flowers

JinglingHellsBells · 10/12/2021 08:44

@whatdoidonow11 Do you realise there are a few discrepancies in your story? Not least the length of time he's been divorced.

6 years?
Or recently?

You said both Hmm

There are also massive holes in your story of not being on the list for training which doesn't make sense.

You've also not said if your divorce is through or if you are simply separated. That makes a difference to the place you are in ,emotionally.

I am trying to say this kindly, but it's tricky!

I recognise your behaviour. I have been in circs when I analysed every word a guy said and how it might mean he felt over me. I was obsessed.

BUT I was much younger and certainly not going on for 40.

Reading your update, I feel worried for you.
You are analysing every move he makes (albeit in a work capacity.)
You are dwelling on every word he says.

All with the hope it means he cares about you.

Can't you let this go?
If he cared, he'd be doing one hell of a lot more.
He's being polite, trying to show a degree of caring, probably as he realises he overstepped a line and you are vulnerable.

I doubt you will read this or take any notice, because you don't appear to be acting on any of the advice here. Almost everyone is saying leave it, move on, fill your time outside of work with other things and get over this.

But instead, you come back looking for a glimmer of hope in what he's said to you. And you are planning on making contact with him in the new year.

None of this is good for your mental health.

Please, please, please, stop living this fantasy life where you think you may walk off into the sunset with him.

He's not on the same page as you.

It hurts to be rejected. Especially when you have had a huge crush on him for months and then- hurrah!- he agrees to a drink (even though you knew it wasn't wise), it goes further and you feel anything is possible.

The old cliches are sometimes right.

Play with fire and you get your fingers burned.

Now, go and nurse your wounds, pull up your big girl pants, and learn a lesson.

Good luck Flowers

weddingdilemmma · 10/12/2021 08:54

do we draw a line under it or pick it up again at some point? I kind of want to ask but don't want to make things worse

Why would you even contemplate this after how badly you feels he's treated you? Do you not feel you deserve better?

It sounds like you're recently single and need to do some work on yourself and your insecurities before jumping into anything else

JinglingHellsBells · 10/12/2021 08:57

And is a polite but vague 'Sorry, you are a nice girl but this isn't going to work for me, so I won't be seeing you again' really any better for our feelings than 'Sorry I didn't answer your five messages, I'm really busy and stressed with work at the moment so it's best if we leave it.'

We all know it means the same thing. Why make someone spell it out?

This^^
with bells on.

Deal with the NOW.

JinglingHellsBells · 10/12/2021 08:58

do we draw a line under it or pick it up again at some point?

@whatdoidonow11 Sorry but which part of 'I don't want this to go further' do you not get?

C'mon.

You're not dim but you are behaving as if you are.

The line has been drawn. You need to start accepting it.

weddingdilemmma · 10/12/2021 08:59

*Okay but whatever his reason for coming into the office, please be clear that it is NOT to see you.

If he was into you, he would have made that clear. He actually made it very clear that he isn't into you (and that he's a dickhead, imo*

Exactly!! He knows you like him. You've made that more than clear and he has multiple means of contacting you. If he had any interest at all he would be trying to arrange to see you OUTSIDE of work.

Why would someone who knows they could text you and meet up, have you over at his place for sex for 3 days, suddenly regress to coming into an office specifically in the hope of catching a glimpse with your or exchanging a handful of words at the coffee machine

Glassofshloer · 10/12/2021 09:02

The ‘I think you’re great’ reads like ‘it’s not you, it’s me’. OP, he isn’t interested romantically. And there’s nothing to ‘pick up again’. If you’re referring to another weekend of sex, well you now know that’s a bad idea.

todaysdilemma · 10/12/2021 09:15

@whatdoidonow11

Little update, yesterday he messaged me on the work instant messenger about something work related. He then told me I'm doing well in my job and that he thinks I'm 'great'. We haven't messaged each other on what's app or text. I feel like I'm going to be over analysing everything from now on.

If he was cringing he wouldn't ask me if I'm ok or tell me I'm great, would he?

Maybe I could leave it until the new year and send a brief message. I do think that if I'd met him on a dating app I would just leave things, but I just feel so weird about everything..... do we draw a line under it or pick it up again at some point? I kind of want to ask but don't want to make things worse

It's WFH if you can from Monday but he will still be attending the office, apparently.

OP, I really think you need to talk to someone. You've had 600+ posts explaining the situation to you, he has made it so clear to you - and you are still obsessing over the fact it might mean more. And this perfectly sums up why even if he had told you in explicit terms, you wouldn't have accepted it - because you'd still be over analysing and trying to find hope that he didn't mean it, would change his mind or maybe you misunderstood. Or you'd be trying to convince him he's wrong. And if he had rejected you outright, you'd still be on here feeling crap about yourself.

Because kindly, the issue is in your inability to cope with a world where you are solely responsible for your own self esteem, feelings, loneliness. You admitted you needed the validation from him which is why you messaged and asked him out. He was just a life raft to you, OP because if you're honest you don't know enough about him to have decided so certainly you want more. Texting and a few days together isn't enough to determine your compatibility!

Do you have any hobbies? Is there anything that occupies your time outside work? If you don't, now is the time to start.

This ruminating and obsessing comes from an idle mind, so fill up your time. And accept his work messages as a peace gesture that you have nothing to worry about regarding work ramifications. Please please don't read anything else into it or bring this up with him. There is nothing he can say to make you feel better if even 600+ posts here haven't done the job. Look after yourself and find a way to move on- new year, a new zest for life.

Hesheweeshe · 10/12/2021 09:23

I agree with so many of the posters on here.

Please please don't start looking for hidden meanings in his work related messages. Men are not that complicated. He has tried to let you down gently by saying things are busy at work, it was his 'kind' way of doing it. It would not of been nicer to hear 'great weekend nice shag but so we are clear it ends now as i'm in no way interested in a relationship with you! We all good? See you at work tomorrow.' That would have been horrible and tbh we would all think he was a complete dick if he did that just as much as we think he's a dick for pussy footing around you. Damned if he does Damed if he don't.

Although the truth is a lot of us need a brutal dropping as the sensitive brush offs just don't work.

I have done this so many times in my own dating days trying to be nice because i in no way wanted to be brutal and to the point with someone as i was conscious of there feelings. Tbh men take the hint though, i'd use the 'i've got a lot going on at the mo' line and the blokes wld say 'ok' and never contact me again. BUT i know back in those days when I went out with someone and they did the same to me I would spend weeks, sometimes months (i'm embarrassed to admit) going over and over it convincing me that A) they might not be so busy now, so shall i just get back in touch as i'm sure they are probably just longing to hear from me. B) they didn't mean what they said, they are probably as tormented as me wishing we were together.
All these ridiculous thoughts came from the fact i was miserably single and pinning to much hope on everyone i met.

Not every date, every drink or every dalliance results in a relationship. The fact you work with the guy and he is your supervisor doesn't mean that should be any difference i.e oh shit as she works with me i'll have to stay with her now forever so its not awkward. HOWEVER I totally agree that bosses should not sleep with staff BUT ALSO staff should not sleep with bosses. All onerous should not be placed on the boss to bat away advances from people they work with, the responsibility is everyones.

If its awkward on your part and you feel the 'i'm busy at the moment' line is not cutting it then call him on the phone, out of working hours and speak to him. say you feel you need to clear the air after what happened last weekend and that in order for things not to be weird at work a conversation needs to be had. Have an adult conversation as hard as it is (without sounding crude you were happy to roll around naked with the guy).

We have all been there its a crazy place to be and i know from experience that sometimes it was only being told brutally by the fella that would snap me out of it so maybe you need to hear that from him. Just don't let it jeopardise your job or his for that matter xxx

girlmom21 · 10/12/2021 09:49

He's doing it on a work medium to show this is now strictly a professional relationship.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 10/12/2021 09:53

I think his behaviour has been awful. As your manager, he schmoozed his way into your confidence at a time when he KNEW you were feeling vulnerable and alone. Had sex with you, it doesn't matter if you instigated it, things were leading that way anyway and he had set the scene and then he ended it without even saying so shortly after, leaving you in a quandary and having to work out for yourself that it was over. What a prince!
And within a few days you are removed from a Training invitation at work with no explanation and you have to ask others what is going on.

I am sorry but he is clearly demonstrating to you exactly what it will be like and what you can expect at work from now on if you do not stay in line.

This is not a person you should be lamenting. You have to write it off.

More than that you have to make sure your work communications with him are in writing and are appropriate and work related. Save everything and protect yourself. I bet he has form for this.

As previous posters have said, try to get some counselling to talk to someone outside of work and be very careful about who you talk to within work, if at all, until the situation becomes clearer.
This is early days since your break up and it won't always feel like this. It's unfortunate that this has happened, but as others have said focus on building your interests outside of work and on your self esteem, you deserve more than this.

Bluntness100 · 10/12/2021 09:54

Oh dear op. You’re desperately doing a 180. He’s back to behaving professionally and trying to make this a normal working relationship with no nad feelings, if he was interested he would WhatsApp you. The fact he’s not, he’s only using work mediums, and the interview is done and dusted, tells you all you need to know.

Please stop trying to analyse everything to see if he’s interested. It’s going to make your behaviour desperate and attention seeking, trying to reach out to him to get any contact you can. It won’t go well for you.

Bluntness100 · 10/12/2021 09:57

As your manager, he schmoozed his way into your confidence at a time when he KNEW you were feeling vulnerable and alone. Had sex with you, it doesn't matter if you instigated it, things were leading that way anyway and he had set the scene and then he ended it without even saying so shortly after, leaving you in a quandary and having to work out for yourself that it was over

Some of these posts are just scarey, ended what? There was nothing to end, they weren’t in a romantic relationship she was not his girlfriend. And yes it does matter she instigated it, saying she instigated but he schmoozed his way in so it’s his fault, is just weird. If anything she shmoozed her way in.

Allsortsofroses · 10/12/2021 10:06

do we draw a line under it or pick it up again at some point?

He doesn't sound interested in a relationship, thats more likely to not change than change.

You'll end up being a booty call.

You'll end up getting more hurt.

Going after your manager was a high risk, messy move; you shouldn't continue it. Focus on dating outside outside work.

girlmom21 · 10/12/2021 10:12

Focus on dating outside outside work.

I don't actually think OP is ready for this as she felt like 3 days with someone was long enough to say she could really see their relationship going somewhere and wanting to book a short break.

OP spend some time alone and learn to enjoy your own company.

A relationship should improve your life, not be your life.