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My ex is stalking me at public events - and my dad is helping him do it

145 replies

Warrior93 · 22/11/2021 07:13

I got involved with a guy when I was not in a good place. He clearly had issues - controlling, manipulative, weird, but also obsessed with me. I FINALLY got rid of him this January, but he hasn’t left me alone since.

In the early months post breakup, he turned up at my house a couple of times, crying and begging, and called, messaged, emailed etc. Nothing abusive, just begging to speak to me. I blocked him on everything apart from emails. After a couple of months of this, I called the police and they were brilliant. They rang him and explained the legality of the situation and he stopped harassing me. For a while.

After a couple of months he started again, but worse. My dad and I compete in a sport, which is open to the public to attend (though in Covid you could only be there if you were a competitor). My ex has turned up to several of these events (don’t know how he got in) this year and accosted me, following me around asking to speak, staring at me all the time. I’ve ignored him. Most recently, at the last event he technically left me alone, but he spent the whole weekend lurking, staring. He would not take his eyes off me - he’d appear out of nowhere wherever I was. It was so creepy and of course very distracting. I ignored him completely, as I have done all year.

There is a very dark twist to this which I worry makes it impossible to get rid of him, and leaves me feeling quite desperate and conflicted. My dad, who is a complicated man, runs a small business. The entire time I was with my ex, he kept asking if he could recruit him to work for him. I kept saying no because I knew I would then never be able to break free from this man. The month before I ended it for good, my dad was in a desperate situation and couldn’t find anyone to do a 3 week job over Christmas. So I said yes. The 3 week job happened, ended, my ex went back to what he was doing before, and I broke up with him in the January.

The harassment happened, and shortly before I called the police, I found out through someone else that my dad had rehired my ex permanently, behind my back. He knew all about the stalking. He was even there with him when my ex got the call from the police. He made up an elaborate story to keep this from me - making up a fake name for my ex and even referring to him in conversations so I wouldn’t know who it was. 10 months on and they still work together. Closely together too - he drives all over the country with this man. I have begged, shouted, cried, at my dad to get him to sack my ex, but he just won’t. It’s ruined my relationship with my dad - I never want to call him because my ex might be there, and I cannot understand how he could be missing that very normal paternal instinct to protect his daughter.

So all these events that have happened this year, my ex has been able to turn up and chat to/hang out with my dad. The one last weekend, my dad been BROUGHT HIM to the event, in his car! Then acted all surprised when I was annoyed that he had effectively delivered my stalker to me. I even spoke to my dad and said that my ex was staring at me and intimidating me, and his response was to laugh and say ‘oh well’.

I know I can call the police again, but firstly blocking him on everything won’t stop him from turning up at these events, and secondly, my dad playing the role that he is makes it very difficult to deal with. It’s hard to explain to anyone, including the police, that my dad is at the heart of the problem.

Does anyone have any advice or knowledge of the law that could help me? Thanks so much in advance.

OP posts:
Theunamedcat · 22/11/2021 07:16

You need to cut your dad off he clearly has put this man above you

Gingernaut · 22/11/2021 07:17

Talk to the police.

GrumpyLivesInMyHouseNow · 22/11/2021 07:19

Firstly you need to phone the police again and start logging each and every account.

Secondly, you need to go no contact with your Dad, he clearly has issues and has put this man above your safety and well being. It won't be easy but it will be so much better for you, your health and safety. I suspect your Dad is also supplying this man with information on what you've been doing etc. drop the rope and walk away

A580Hojas · 22/11/2021 07:22

Have you discussed this with anyone who knows your Dad? His behaviour is quite baffling.

Thatsplentyjack · 22/11/2021 07:24

Wtf is wrong with your dad!?
Could you look into trying to get a restraining order on the ex?

Starlightstarbright1 · 22/11/2021 07:24

I would be cutting your Dad from my life in this situation.

ChubbyMorticia · 22/11/2021 07:26

I would absolutely talk to the police, and find out what they can advise you as to what documentation you should start collecting and how.

I'd also call a women's shelter help line (or similar, not sure what's in your area). They can be a fantastic resource and give you help in making safety plans, consider options you weren't aware of, etc.

I can't see how the relationship with your father can continue. He's clearly putting your ex ahead of your safety, and that's not something negotiable. I would absolutely be looking at dropping the sport, moving and cutting off all communication. I know it's hard and it's completely unfair that your life should be upended that way, but your safety is at stake here.

CovidCorvid · 22/11/2021 07:26

Can you stop attending the events with your dad and do other similar events without telling him where you are?

CovidCorvid · 22/11/2021 07:27

And I would make it clear as well to your dad that he needs to choose between you and that if he chooses your ex you will go non contact.

Catsforeverpeoplenever · 22/11/2021 07:27

Sounds like this nutjob is using your dad to get to you.

If he goes to your dad's house what kind of personal items and information of yours will have access to?

If your dad cannot see what this manipulative arse is doing then unfortunately you're going to have to cut him off too as damage control. It beggars belief that your dad has been openly lying to you and playing down a situation so bad that the police have become involved.

Catsforeverpeoplenever · 22/11/2021 07:29

*he

wavingwhilstdrowning · 22/11/2021 07:30

WTF is your dad doing? How unbelievably hurtful. Tell your dad straight and cut him out of your life.

FlipFlops4Me · 22/11/2021 07:33

You need to go nc or you will effectively end up a prisoner of this man and your dad - the two of them together acting as prison guards.

Why your dad has chosen this man over you isn't your problem. The fact is that he has, and it is that fact that you need to deal with. The only way to do that is to go nc because at the moment, your dad is betraying you, you are scared and hurt (and he knows it) but there are no consequences from his point of view.

You need to put yourself first, because clearly no-one else is.

Warrior93 · 22/11/2021 07:35

Hi all, thanks so much for the responses! Yes I think I do need to speak to the police again. Will go back through the year and make a log of everything as well.

I know, I probably should cut ties with my dad. I love him so much. He clearly has psychological issues because he genuinely does not understand the problem. At all.

Yes, I’ve spoken to my mum. She tried with my dad (they’re divorced) but it didn’t work. Lots of mutual friends within the sport that we compete in as well - they’ve all tried (ish), and are all baffled too, but no-one really wants to get involved. It’s a hard lesson really - not many people care enough to risk their own ass to save mine. And of course, technically, he is turning up at an event just like everyone else, and certainly at the last one, technically left me alone. Is staring at someone a crime?

Yes, my dad does feed him information. I know that. Again, tried to stop him, didn’t work.

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GeorgiaGirl52 · 22/11/2021 07:37

Make sure your Dad does not have keys to your house, or any info about your passwords, credit card numbers, etc. You may need to change your locks if your Dad has had keys.
Don't give your Dad any information about where you will be. Not even a casual "I am picking up groceries, anything you need?" Assume anything you say to your Dad the EX will know.

SexTrainGlue · 22/11/2021 07:38

Have you spoken to the police again?

You said the stalking started again - do you mean as it was before, or is it solely at the sports club now?

You need to update the police, and then work out how to minimise contact with your father. Unfortunately it sounds as if XP is a valued employee, and of course you can't just sack people unless they breach their contract.

So all that is left is to minimise or cut contact with your father. Which sounds drastic, but is likely to be necessary.

Warrior93 · 22/11/2021 07:40

And yes I could compete in different events and avoid my dad. However, my dad pays for everything. It’s an expensive sport, I wouldn’t be able to fund it myself. My dad knows this and when I threatened no contact back in February when this all first kicked off, he told me that if I didn’t ring him and apologise for yelling at him about all this, he would stop paying. I know this sounds very shallow, but this sport is my life. I love it so much, and I’m great at it too. But I do feel like I’ve done a deal with the devil to carry on with it despite what he's doing.

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ChristmasScrooge · 22/11/2021 07:42

So instead of protecting yourself from the stalker and your dads very strange behaviour your putting money before your own safety?

Sorry but your being unreasonable you can't have it both ways.

HeadNorth · 22/11/2021 07:43

I am so sorry OP, but you need to break away from your dad and the hold he has over you, funding your sport. You just have to.

If you cut your dad off, your stalker may well stop being involved with your dad as there is no doubgt he took the job & goes to events with him to harrass you. If you are cold turkey with your dad, your stalker has no reason to be so close to him.

I know it is hard, but as an adult you need to cut the ties of relying on your parents to fund your lifestyle. It is part of growing up, it is healthy, and in your case is the wisest and safest thing to do.

Lovelymincepies · 22/11/2021 07:44

Definitely police. Your Dad is acting very strangely but I find men can be bloody selfish sometimes!

I’d try a d get a restraining order, contact the suzylamplugh trust or paladin organisations for help.

Warrior93 · 22/11/2021 07:45

Also, all good on the personal info front. Keys etc not a problem. My dad lives in the midlands and I’m in East Anglia so luckily I am sort of assured that as long as the ex is with him, he’s not near me!

Restraining order yes, but how would that work if my dad is transporting him around to places where I’ll be?

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AmIteallythatstupid · 22/11/2021 07:46

Maybe if you involved the police again and advised them that your Dad is providing information to him about your whereabouts the police in turn could speak to your Dad. Advise him that he's facilitating and assisting someone to comit what could become a crime. Alternatively could you now seek a court order preventing him from coming near you.

ChaToilLeam · 22/11/2021 07:46

I think you need to ditch your father. It sounds like he and your ex are cut from the same cloth. He is using this to control you.

Warrior93 · 22/11/2021 07:48

Yes, I know it sounds bad that I’m still relying on him to fund the sport. Having read all these comments (so helpful) I do realise it needs to end. I may be able to get sponsorship. I would like to add that I am 100% independent in every other way. But yes this is a big one.

What are people’s thoughts on trying to make others in the sport aware of what’s gone on? I feel like if people knew, they wouldn’t welcome him anymore…

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Changechangychange · 22/11/2021 07:50

If there’s a restraining order, he won’t be able to come within X number of meters of you. Regardless of who has brought him.

So if your dad bring him, you ring the police and have him removed. Simple as that. Your dad has no say in it.