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My ex is stalking me at public events - and my dad is helping him do it

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Warrior93 · 22/11/2021 07:13

I got involved with a guy when I was not in a good place. He clearly had issues - controlling, manipulative, weird, but also obsessed with me. I FINALLY got rid of him this January, but he hasn’t left me alone since.

In the early months post breakup, he turned up at my house a couple of times, crying and begging, and called, messaged, emailed etc. Nothing abusive, just begging to speak to me. I blocked him on everything apart from emails. After a couple of months of this, I called the police and they were brilliant. They rang him and explained the legality of the situation and he stopped harassing me. For a while.

After a couple of months he started again, but worse. My dad and I compete in a sport, which is open to the public to attend (though in Covid you could only be there if you were a competitor). My ex has turned up to several of these events (don’t know how he got in) this year and accosted me, following me around asking to speak, staring at me all the time. I’ve ignored him. Most recently, at the last event he technically left me alone, but he spent the whole weekend lurking, staring. He would not take his eyes off me - he’d appear out of nowhere wherever I was. It was so creepy and of course very distracting. I ignored him completely, as I have done all year.

There is a very dark twist to this which I worry makes it impossible to get rid of him, and leaves me feeling quite desperate and conflicted. My dad, who is a complicated man, runs a small business. The entire time I was with my ex, he kept asking if he could recruit him to work for him. I kept saying no because I knew I would then never be able to break free from this man. The month before I ended it for good, my dad was in a desperate situation and couldn’t find anyone to do a 3 week job over Christmas. So I said yes. The 3 week job happened, ended, my ex went back to what he was doing before, and I broke up with him in the January.

The harassment happened, and shortly before I called the police, I found out through someone else that my dad had rehired my ex permanently, behind my back. He knew all about the stalking. He was even there with him when my ex got the call from the police. He made up an elaborate story to keep this from me - making up a fake name for my ex and even referring to him in conversations so I wouldn’t know who it was. 10 months on and they still work together. Closely together too - he drives all over the country with this man. I have begged, shouted, cried, at my dad to get him to sack my ex, but he just won’t. It’s ruined my relationship with my dad - I never want to call him because my ex might be there, and I cannot understand how he could be missing that very normal paternal instinct to protect his daughter.

So all these events that have happened this year, my ex has been able to turn up and chat to/hang out with my dad. The one last weekend, my dad been BROUGHT HIM to the event, in his car! Then acted all surprised when I was annoyed that he had effectively delivered my stalker to me. I even spoke to my dad and said that my ex was staring at me and intimidating me, and his response was to laugh and say ‘oh well’.

I know I can call the police again, but firstly blocking him on everything won’t stop him from turning up at these events, and secondly, my dad playing the role that he is makes it very difficult to deal with. It’s hard to explain to anyone, including the police, that my dad is at the heart of the problem.

Does anyone have any advice or knowledge of the law that could help me? Thanks so much in advance.

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Warrior93 · 22/11/2021 07:54

Ok, thank you. That makes sense!

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ChristmasScrooge · 22/11/2021 07:54

@Warrior93

Yes, I know it sounds bad that I’m still relying on him to fund the sport. Having read all these comments (so helpful) I do realise it needs to end. I may be able to get sponsorship. I would like to add that I am 100% independent in every other way. But yes this is a big one.

What are people’s thoughts on trying to make others in the sport aware of what’s gone on? I feel like if people knew, they wouldn’t welcome him anymore…

No I wouldn't do that considering it's your dad taking him there. Your just inviting in more drama. I just wouldn't go for a while until your dad stops it if you don't want to go no contact. That or get a injunction against him.
AuntieStella · 22/11/2021 07:57

What are people’s thoughts on trying to make others in the sport aware of what’s gone on?

That depends what n what you are going to say

If it's 'that's my ex, and he makes me really uncomfortable, can you help me keep,away from him' then yes.

If it's generally trying to turn people against the pair of them, then don't- people will see that as a family matter they won't wish to be involved in, and will stay away from all three of you and I don't think that would be the right outcome

And yes, you have to become self funding for the sport. How long will that take you to achieve?

Motnight · 22/11/2021 07:58

Op what would you do if you weren't reliant on your father financially? There's your answer.

NewtoHolland · 22/11/2021 08:01

You could let them know, perhaps after the conversation with the police? Can you take a 3 month break from the sport? I know it means a lot to you but it's like a line needs to be drawn.

Monalotmoore · 22/11/2021 08:04

Surely if you are so heavily involved in this sport you must have other contacts or means to support it. What is it? Olympic gold plated pottery classes or something? Is there a small chance your loyalty to your dad might be preventing you from seeing you could easily continue this sport elsewhere and find other funding? How much exactly is this costing? If you genuinely can't afford it without your dad funding you then perhaps this points toward a bigger issue of dependency keeping you trapped.

DismantledKing · 22/11/2021 08:06

Your dad has obviously spotted a kindred spirit; they’re both highly controlling. Until you remove yourself from both of them then this will only continue, unfortunately.

Warrior93 · 22/11/2021 08:06

Hmm yes I was thinking more the latter haha so maybe not a good idea. A few people do know and would step in if anything physically happened. But as I said he's clever enough to just lurk and stare, and to only try to come near me if my dad’s there, and my dad is clearly in his corner, not mine!

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MyOtherProfile · 22/11/2021 08:08

I'm so sorry your dad is such an arse. I think you need to have a stronger blunter conversation face to face with him, go over again how much harm this man has done you and how your dad is choosing him over you so you will be obliged to choose your own safety over your dad.

Warrior93 · 22/11/2021 08:08

It’s motorsport. And yes I imagine it could potentially be funded another way. As usual with these things it’s complicated because he doesn’t give me the money - he pays someone else to maintain the car etc. So if I pull the plug, that person (who is also my good friend) will lose a lot of their income.

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Fluffycloudland77 · 22/11/2021 08:10

Oh god you’ve got a dad like mine, none of his 3 kids speak to him.

You have to cut them both off because no one’s going to get involved in family drama like this. No ones going to help you within the sport it’s all he said, she said & people are very unsympathetic.

Disfordarkchocolate · 22/11/2021 08:11

Police.
Restraining order.
Make people in the sport aware of the restraining order.
No contact with your Dad.

I started off thinking this man was manipulating your dad but actually this doesn't matter. Your dad is enabling you to be harassed and he won't stop without external pressure. Hopefully the police will be the external pressure he needs.

MissMogwai · 22/11/2021 08:12

That's terrible. Your ex sounds absolutely awful and definitely needs another visit from the police at the very least. I'd be terrified if someone was doing this to me.

Your dad on the other hand - what the fuck is he doing. I can't imagine betraying my daughters trust and knowingly supporting someone stalking them.

You need to take steps to protect yourself both physically and emotionally. Don't let the sport/finance from your Dad keep you beholden to him and at the mercy of the sinister ex.

Stop the sport, cut contact and speak to the police. Yes it will impact on the sport/money but surely you see this is necessary for your own well-being?

HeadNorth · 22/11/2021 08:13

Your updates make it even clearer you need to sever the ties with you dad - he has thoroughly enmeshed you: 'if I pull the plug, that person (who is also my good friend) will lose a lot of their income.' This is not healthy, you are not responsible for your friend's income and that is not a reason to allow your dad to so thoroughly control you. Stalker aside, I really think you need to step back from this unhealthy dynamic with your father.

GrandmasCat · 22/11/2021 08:14

I think this has gone beyond what you can control while continuing to live your life to what you need to change in order to keep the stalker away from you:

  • non molestation order for the stalker
  • go no contact with your dad (he has already changed sides, he cares more about him than you, but you may get him back if the stalker loses interest in your dad if he doesn’t get him useful to get access to you and news of you)
  • you may need to stop your hobby for a few months or change the group you do it with (I know, it is unfair, but things are never fair when you are dealing with a stalker you really want out of your life).
nocnoc · 22/11/2021 08:16

Get a restraining order. That will speak for itself. Sadly you are going to have to work out a way to fund yourself so that your dad has no control over you or stop competing and be involved in other ways.

Monalotmoore · 22/11/2021 08:16

@Warrior93

It’s motorsport. And yes I imagine it could potentially be funded another way. As usual with these things it’s complicated because he doesn’t give me the money - he pays someone else to maintain the car etc. So if I pull the plug, that person (who is also my good friend) will lose a lot of their income.
Motorsport definitely has a wealth of contacts and funding. The person who maintains your car is not your problem. They can find other work if what they do is so sought after. I think you're too focused on obstacles rather than solutions. Ultimately you need to stop being financially dependent on your dad, which brings me nicely to my next point. As I am assuming you are an independent adult with a niche hobby, why isn't that a priority for you anyway? Are you still planning to be financially dependent on him in your 50s? You can't see it now but so much of this is within your control.
PatsyJStone · 22/11/2021 08:17

If you are seriously scared and believe you are being stalked then you have to take hard decisions. If this means giving up your sport or going contact with your dad, that’s what you will need to do. If you don’t then you clearly aren’t that worried. A sport, funded by your dad or not, should not take priority over your safety. Your decision will show genuinely how frightened you are in respect of your stalker.

You can’t have it all your way and your dad clearly doesn’t see that your ex is in stalker territory. Telling other participants isn’t going to be effective, you can’t expect them to get involved. This may seem harsh but a real stalker could be a serious danger to your life, you wanting to keep the priority the sport that is paid for by your dad does not indicate that you really feel in danger.

DontBeCatty · 22/11/2021 08:17

However, my dad pays for everything. It’s an expensive sport, I wouldn’t be able to fund it myself

You Dad probably doesn't think it's that serious if you are still choosing to do the sport.

Monalotmoore · 22/11/2021 08:20

@DontBeCatty

However, my dad pays for everything. It’s an expensive sport, I wouldn’t be able to fund it myself

You Dad probably doesn't think it's that serious if you are still choosing to do the sport.

And still depending on him to fund it....
GrandmasCat · 22/11/2021 08:21

The non molestation order prevents stalker from being x meters from you. You ring the police if he is closer and they will arrest him, who he came with to the event doesn’t matter, your dad won’t be arrested for facilitating access (even if he bloody should!)

ThorsLeftNut · 22/11/2021 08:23

@ChristmasScrooge

So instead of protecting yourself from the stalker and your dads very strange behaviour your putting money before your own safety?

Sorry but your being unreasonable you can't have it both ways.

This!

Report him again, tell the police about your dads involvement and enabling.
Cut your dad off.
Stop the sport untill you can afford it yourself.

Beamur · 22/11/2021 08:28

What a weird situation to find yourself in.
I have to agree that the relationship you need to sort out here is the one between you and your Dad first and foremost.
Your financial dependency puts you in a very vulnerable position. He's behaviour is weird and controlling. I don't think he has much respect for your opinion.
I'd be trying to extract myself from this set up asap. Having your Dad also as your sponsor is no longer working in your favour.

MultiStorey · 22/11/2021 08:28

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MrsBertBibby · 22/11/2021 08:35

Why do you think your parents are divorced?

You picked a guy who is just like your dad.