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My ex is stalking me at public events - and my dad is helping him do it

145 replies

Warrior93 · 22/11/2021 07:13

I got involved with a guy when I was not in a good place. He clearly had issues - controlling, manipulative, weird, but also obsessed with me. I FINALLY got rid of him this January, but he hasn’t left me alone since.

In the early months post breakup, he turned up at my house a couple of times, crying and begging, and called, messaged, emailed etc. Nothing abusive, just begging to speak to me. I blocked him on everything apart from emails. After a couple of months of this, I called the police and they were brilliant. They rang him and explained the legality of the situation and he stopped harassing me. For a while.

After a couple of months he started again, but worse. My dad and I compete in a sport, which is open to the public to attend (though in Covid you could only be there if you were a competitor). My ex has turned up to several of these events (don’t know how he got in) this year and accosted me, following me around asking to speak, staring at me all the time. I’ve ignored him. Most recently, at the last event he technically left me alone, but he spent the whole weekend lurking, staring. He would not take his eyes off me - he’d appear out of nowhere wherever I was. It was so creepy and of course very distracting. I ignored him completely, as I have done all year.

There is a very dark twist to this which I worry makes it impossible to get rid of him, and leaves me feeling quite desperate and conflicted. My dad, who is a complicated man, runs a small business. The entire time I was with my ex, he kept asking if he could recruit him to work for him. I kept saying no because I knew I would then never be able to break free from this man. The month before I ended it for good, my dad was in a desperate situation and couldn’t find anyone to do a 3 week job over Christmas. So I said yes. The 3 week job happened, ended, my ex went back to what he was doing before, and I broke up with him in the January.

The harassment happened, and shortly before I called the police, I found out through someone else that my dad had rehired my ex permanently, behind my back. He knew all about the stalking. He was even there with him when my ex got the call from the police. He made up an elaborate story to keep this from me - making up a fake name for my ex and even referring to him in conversations so I wouldn’t know who it was. 10 months on and they still work together. Closely together too - he drives all over the country with this man. I have begged, shouted, cried, at my dad to get him to sack my ex, but he just won’t. It’s ruined my relationship with my dad - I never want to call him because my ex might be there, and I cannot understand how he could be missing that very normal paternal instinct to protect his daughter.

So all these events that have happened this year, my ex has been able to turn up and chat to/hang out with my dad. The one last weekend, my dad been BROUGHT HIM to the event, in his car! Then acted all surprised when I was annoyed that he had effectively delivered my stalker to me. I even spoke to my dad and said that my ex was staring at me and intimidating me, and his response was to laugh and say ‘oh well’.

I know I can call the police again, but firstly blocking him on everything won’t stop him from turning up at these events, and secondly, my dad playing the role that he is makes it very difficult to deal with. It’s hard to explain to anyone, including the police, that my dad is at the heart of the problem.

Does anyone have any advice or knowledge of the law that could help me? Thanks so much in advance.

OP posts:
Carboncheque · 22/11/2021 11:48

Warn your friend that you are going to be stopping the sport (at least with your father funding it) in x months. Your friendship means that you owe them some warning but it doesn’t mean that you owe them a permanent living.

Marineboy67 · 22/11/2021 11:49

I think you need to cut contact with your dad. Also explain to the police that your father is complicit in aiding your stalker access to you. Actively promoting it infact, he sounds like a narcissistic selfish man to me. Perhaps you may need to reconsider your life and take a step back from your sport and let those involved in it know why.

MaggieFS · 22/11/2021 11:56

Your Dad is willing to use money to manipulate you and will not respect your wishes with regards to this man.

Yes things have gone too far.

Ohmybod · 22/11/2021 12:01

What kind of fuck-witted parenting is that? Parental love should be unconditional and put your well-being front and centre.

My Dad controlled us with money (for things we really needed, like your hobby as he knows it’s important to you) l. I cut him off and never regretted it. It was hard yes and he died without us having spoken for 2 years. But that was also 2 yrs less toxic behaviour to process. And I didn’t even have the ex/stalker issue to deal with.

Sorry to say this, but your Dad values more what he gets from your ex (labour/generating income/the attention and praise this prick most likely lavishes on your Dad) than he does from seeing you happy.

Harlequin1088 · 22/11/2021 12:08

Jesus Tap Dancing Christ. This is just about the worst thing I've ever read. You need to speak to the Police again I think and also seriously consider cutting your Dad out of your life. If he really thinks that your ex is more important than his owner daughter then they're bloody welcome to each other.

Your Dad is clearly not taking the risk this man poses to you seriously. Two women per week die at the hands of their current or ex-partner. Your Dad's behaviour is putting you at greater risk of becoming part of that statistic.

Wheresmywoolyjumpers · 22/11/2021 12:12

What a horrible situation you are in. Trying to be charitable to your Dad, a lot of people don't understand stalking or its impact. And stalkers are extremely good at manipulating people around their target, so if your dad is not particularly complex in the way he views things, he may just be a really easy target.

That said, I think you do need to cut contact with your father, which may mean you have no access to the funds. Often stalkers will drop the person they got close to when they cannot provide access any longer. Does your sport have a governing body? Are there other female competitors you are close to? It would be really helpful to talk to people who are there and may have noticed this stuff. I would expect any body to have knowledge of and policies about this and if they do not, to develop them. Surely they have safeguarding policies? And log every incident for supply to the police. Again, sorry this is happening to you. It is infuriating that you are in this situation.

Somebodylikeyew · 22/11/2021 12:12

Bluntly, you seem to be expecting everyone else to protect you from this guy- your Father, your sports friends, the police, the legal system- more than you seem willing to protect yourself by taking the entirely reasonable and appropriate step of disentangling yourself from your Dad, because his money funds your hobby.

Wheresmywoolyjumpers · 22/11/2021 12:20

Sorry, just saw it is motor sport. I would guess they don't have as much experience with this because it is mostly male dominated, but still doesn't mean they dont have a duty of care.

me4real · 22/11/2021 12:27

As well as the police, definitely speak to the organizers of the events. Worth a go.

TeeBee · 22/11/2021 13:10

@Somebodylikeyew

Bluntly, you seem to be expecting everyone else to protect you from this guy- your Father, your sports friends, the police, the legal system- more than you seem willing to protect yourself by taking the entirely reasonable and appropriate step of disentangling yourself from your Dad, because his money funds your hobby.
Totally agree. One of the most important things I was every taught was never, ever delegate your safety to somebody else. This is one area of your life that you, and you alone, need to take control of.

It seems as though your father has worked hard to back you into a corner with money and you have maximised the benefit of that to yourself. Unwittingly, you've now fenced yourself in. There's no point in loving motorsport or being brilliant at it when you're dead.

I would take every single step you need to do to keep yourself safe. Share no information at all with your dad, nothing! He's a leaky bucket. You need to contact the police again, cut out your dad, take a break from motorsport if you need to. And when this loon starts to leave you alone, only then pick it back up again if you can fund it with a route other than your dad. All of these things should take a precedence over you continuing a hobby.

Sakurami · 22/11/2021 13:16

Your dad sounds toxic. Find another way to fund your sport because this relationship with your dad is unhealthy.

FlipFlops4Me · 22/11/2021 13:21

@DontBeCatty

However, my dad pays for everything. It’s an expensive sport, I wouldn’t be able to fund it myself

You Dad probably doesn't think it's that serious if you are still choosing to do the sport.

This - he probably thinks it's OK really, or you'd have done something about him bringing ex along with him.
HoldmecloseTonyDanza · 22/11/2021 13:28

You've had some great advice here, please heed it.
You need to prioritise your safety above your sport.

Hopingforabagofbuttons · 22/11/2021 13:30

I get you love your Dad, but he is putting your safety and emotional well-being at serious risk. He knows how you feel but yet he carries on doing what he’s doing. I can’t imagine putting your child in this situation.
You need to explain to your Dad that you love him but while he is enabling this situation to continue you cannot have any further contact with him.
This may impact your ability to continue with your sport but so be it . While things continue as they are you will not get rid of this creepy bloke, and he doesn’t sound like he’s going anywhere . Not being able to participate in something you enjoy is unfortunate but is a small price to pay to live your life stalker free
Oh and do go back to the police. Log every single incident no matter how insignificant it seems at the time

Fluffycloudland77 · 22/11/2021 15:01

Your dad understands perfectly. He’s enjoying it on some level.

Pinkbonbon · 22/11/2021 15:27

Your dad does get it. He just doesn't care. And ge wants to gaslight you into thinking you are overreacting. I'm sorry, I know it's a tough pill to swallow. But your dad knows what's going on because you've told him. Its not difficult to understand. He gets it. He just doesn't care.

Remove him from your life entirely. Change your locks just incase. And if possible, stop attending those events. I'd also tell the police about his behaviour too, as surely knowingly putting you at risk with your stalker is a repromandable offence?

AgentJohnson · 22/11/2021 16:31

Someone said up thread that your Dad had met his kindred spirit, they are definitely onto something.

Contact the Police asap.

Toohardtofindaproperusername · 22/11/2021 16:47

Your dad will likely remember Jill Dando. Journalist murdered by her stalker in 1999. I would calmly tell him you have no intention of ending up like her and you are putting your safety above him and what he wants. Then cut him off.

jill dando's case is still open ..it wasnt' a stalker who killed her... that would have been resolved. it goes much deeper ....

Toohardtofindaproperusername · 22/11/2021 16:48

sorry that shold have been in quotation marks... it's from a previous post. i wanted to just highlight that it wasn't resolved. and wasnt a stalker. Stalkers would be found.

Dery · 22/11/2021 16:50

It’s been said upthread but bears repeating: this man could be terribly dangerous to you. At some level, in his mind, you are his possession without proper rights of your own. He may well decide that if he can’t have you, nobody can, and it’s okay to kill you because you’re his possession and he can do what he wants with his possessions. Stalkers are known to go from zero physical violence to murder.

Your father needs a very serious talking to, plus cutting off if he doesn’t stop enabling this criminal behaviour.

Contact the National Centre for Domestic Violence and talk to them about getting a non-mol.

Keep the police informed.

ANameChangeAgain · 22/11/2021 16:57

This is a problem.
And yes I could compete in different events and avoid my dad. However, my dad pays for everything. It’s an expensive sport, I wouldn’t be able to fund it myself. My dad knows this and when I threatened no contact back in February when this all first kicked off, he told me that if I didn’t ring him and apologise for yelling at him about all this, he would stop paying. I know this sounds very shallow, but this sport is my life. I love it so much, and I’m great at it too. But I do feel like I’ve done a deal with the devil to carry on with it despite what he's doing.
It sounds as though your dad is putting money before your safety, but equally so are you. Keep going to the police but you have to choose unfortunately.

Fireatseaparks · 22/11/2021 17:08

I agree with some of the previous posters OP - you're in a shitty and dangerous situation that you so not deserve and is not your fault, but you have NOT taken the steps you need to protect yourself.

Your dad is not going to protect you from this man. I'm sorry.

This man is gaining access to you through your dad.

You have made the decision to continue seeing your dad because he funds your hobby, which you enjoy.

It's in no way fair that you should have to give up something you enjoy because of a stalker. But it's the safest thing to do. Stalking escalates.

Your dad has made his decision. You need to make yours. Stop going to the events.

Daisydolly1986 · 22/11/2021 17:14

This is awful. As other posters have said, go NC. Speak to the police and log everything.

I know from experience the hurt you are feeling. My mum invited my ex over to hers during a child custody case. My ex knew so many personal private details about me and my new life, which were being fed to him by my mum and other family members. My mum and ex hadn't spoken to each other for 4 years at the point she invited him over.

Deal with it now, be strong. This sort of situation will effect you deeper than you realise.

CloseThePackWithAClickClack · 22/11/2021 17:18

You need to cut your dad off. He isn’t taking you seriously.

MzHz · 22/11/2021 18:25

You need to go back to police and follow their instructions

If cutting your dad off is what it takes, do it.

This guy could be dangerous and you know this.

Suzy Lamplugh (?) is I think the charity that can advise here