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I want to believe my DP but I have doubts.

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Anon1244 · 12/11/2021 13:23

I have been with my partner for 5 years and we have a 3 yo DC together (DP is a great Dad) and a wedding booked in the near future. Never until recently have I ever had reason do doubt his fidelity.

My DP went on a stag do a few months ago, not for him but a friend. It was 2 nights in Newcastle, it was booked through a stag do company (this is sort of relevant).

My DP came back from the stag do and told me all about it. One story stood out as weird in my head BUT did not make me feel suspicious at the time. He said that on one of the nights the booking company organised for 2 “bar girls” to take them on a bar crawl around Newcastle. He said at the end of the night he gave the girls £20 tip and so did his friend. However, another man at the party did not give them a tip and so one of the girls threw a drink in his face. For me something did not add up about this story as it seemed there was more to this story. However, I did not say anything at the time.

Then the very day he got home, he started washing all the clothes he took with him. I usually do the washing in the house and I felt this was very odd, as he is very much someone who would usually leave a bag unpacked for weeks. I felt it was odd, and I will admit that I started to feel suspicious in my head. When I commented about the washing and that it was strange, he was quite defensive and asked me if I was suggesting something. In fairness, looking back my tone was accusatory, I could have dealt with it better.

Then shortly after he came back he deleted all social media from his phone. So, whilst his Facebook profile was active, he would not receive any notifications or messages. When I asked him, he said he wanted to take a social media break. In the 5 years I have known him he has never done that, so it was out of character.

I found this suspicious and coupled with the other stuff I had this really overwhelming feeling that something was wrong. So I outright asked him if he cheated on my while he was away. Possibly not the best way to deal with things, I’ll admit. It turned into a massive argument, he was furious that I had accused him. Things have been frosty since.

Then Halloween evening we had carved pumpkins with DC and DP had taken some pictures of them with the candle in. I asked to see the pictures and he said he had sent them to his friend (from stag do) on Whatsapp and would show me. He was scrolling through the pictures on Whatsapp but accidentally went too far and I saw a picture for a split second. It was so quick because he realised what he had done and couldn't get the phone away quick enough, however I saw a few words but couldn't be sure.

I made out I didn't see anything and have carried on as normal. However, last night he left his phone on the side and I looked on the messages between him and his friend and found the image. His friend had sent him a mocked up image of a man wearing a sign saying “I cheated on my girlfriend in Newcastle and this is my punishment.” He had replied with a laughing face emoji. I felt really sick and hurt seeing that, my stomach just dropped.

I asked him to leave last night but I am not sure what to do. I really love this man. His attitude has not been great either. He said I need to calm down and I am overreacting. He said the image is a joke. He hasn't even apologised to me he properly, just a “Sorry if the image has offended you”.

He is making out that I have come to this conclusion out of my own insecurities. Do you think this is the case? The thing is I have never been insecure about my DP being unfaithful to me before. If you asked me 6 months ago if my DP would cheat on my I would have bet my house/car/everything that he would not have.

I just feel like I need someone from the outside to tell me if:

  1. I am justified in my suspicions
  2. I am being insecure and I am the one causing this rift between us.
OP posts:
Inlander · 12/11/2021 18:27

OP, you really need to put yourself first and not give a shit what other people think. This is your life and you deserve to be happy. You also deserve to be with a partner who love and respects you enough to be honest and not lie/hide things/gas light you.
All the things you’ve mentioned point in one direction. This does not sound like the behaviour of a man who has been faithful. Even if it was a one off mistake which happened in the heat of the moment, it’s been compounded by the fact he has tried to hide it, lied to you, gaslit you and shown no respect for you in a group chat with his friends. You deserve far more than this. I hope you can go forward and be happy Flowers

KarmaElBanana · 12/11/2021 18:30

@Teeturtle

I think that instincts can generally be trusted. But in case there was any doubt, the superimposed photo on the stock meme is surely all the confirmation you need. The only reason a friend would do this is if he cheated. He cheated on you and now he is laughing about it with his friends. I am not sure what talking about it tonight is going to do, you already tried that.
Totally agree, the picture makes it conclusive. The ‘joke‘ only makes sense if he cheated. There is absolutely no reason otherwise that he would have made that pic.

That would get me more than anything to be honest, that he was laughing about it (even sheepishly) with mates. Sickening.

layladomino · 12/11/2021 18:32

The combination of

  • washing his clothes as soon as he got home
  • deleting all his social media
  • his friend's 'joke' message (why would it be funny unless it was pointed at someone?)
  • his defensive anger when asked about it

all point very strongly to him having been unfaithful.

His self-righteous anger is ridiculous when you look at the facts. Anyone would jump to the same conclusion.

He will of course argue that you are wrong (and try to deflect the arguement by being upset at you not trusting him) as he has a lot to lose if you realise the truth. He is probably quite happy with his life as it is. He would likely rather stay with you than have all his family and friends know he was unfaithful and the subsequent embarassement of cancelling his wedding.

But this involves lying to you, gaslighting you, and leaving you never really knowing if you can trust him or not. That is no basis to start a marriage on. At the very least I would put the marriage idea on pause and make clear that you will only accept the truth from hereon. He has one chance to be truthful, and if he blows it then that's it.

Even if he tells you the truth eventually, I suspect the damage is already done, as he's shown he'd rather lie and make you feel you're going mad, to protect himself.

And that's all on top of being unfaithful to you.

Moutainwoman · 12/11/2021 18:35

When similar happened to me I rang the boyfriends friend in tears and said me and (boyfriend) had just split up over the girl on the stag night. The friend replied oh she meant nothing or something similar and that's how I knew for sure

NEbotherpet · 12/11/2021 18:41

@nocnoc

Can you ring his mate?
His mate would just cover for him, his mate might have been up to the same!
KarmaElBanana · 12/11/2021 18:47

It sounds like he’s in the ‘panic’ stage OP. He’s crapping himself and saying anything he can to wriggle out of this and just try and get the problem to go away. He’s facing the very real likelihood that he is no longer getting married and knows that once he admits what happened it’s all real and it’s not an indiscretion he can just try and forget about. He clearly does not want to face up to the consequences of his actions.

Well done for taking decisive action and not standing for any nonsense. It must be such a horrible sickening shock right now but you can and will feel better, whatever the outcome with your DP. Flowers

GettingItOutThere · 12/11/2021 18:49

@BoredZelda

If this was my DH (who as much as you can know wouldnt cheat) he would have his head in his heads crying, be begging me to listen and understand, insist i comb through everything on jis phone and apologise profusely (even if he done nothing wrong) for upsetting me and not thinking about how it looked.

Yep. Same here.

this. im sorry OP i dont believe him.

He cheated.

Wait for the script tonight when you talk to him. Sorry.

TheFairPrincess · 12/11/2021 19:14

I'm so sorry. All of the other stuff might be explainable in some obscure way but why would you literally make an image of your friend labelling him as a cheater for no reason? You wouldn't would you.

So sorry you're going through this :(

Thetrainisinthestation · 12/11/2021 19:14

So many red flags. Hope he’s honest with you tonight

WouldYouJust · 12/11/2021 21:49

My H cheated on me at a stag, he never admitted it but it was obvious. I know his family knew because I got phone calls checking what time he got home etc. I went ahead and married him anyway.......I don't recommend it.

Northeastsouthwest21 · 12/11/2021 22:20

@Anon1244 I know it’s hard to believe this of someone you love but if you look at the facts it’s obvious he cheated on you. The worst thing is that he is making you out to be over reacting and got you doubting yourself. You saw that photo of your partners face put on with a board saying about cheating in Newcastle ….. doesn’t that tell you all you need to know? Also the fact your partner replied with a laughing face to that photo is disgusting and his friend is disgusting for knowing about it and sending that. Do you really want those kind of people in your life? You sound lovely and you deserve so much better.

mylovelydd · 12/11/2021 22:28

What is it with men and stag dos?
I went to a wedding once where on the stag do one of the party had apparently got a hand job off a prostitute in a back alley which happened to be witnessed accidentally by some of the stags. This prostitute happened to be trans and they constantly wound him up by referring to the prostitute by a 'mans' name (think blokey name like Jim, Dave etc) I
t was even referenced in the Best Mans speech which lots of the stags sniggered at. The handjobee was sat with his wife while people sniggered away and his poor wife had no idea what the joke was. It was vile.
Mind you the groom was, it turns out, shagging the brides best friend.
I hated every second of that wedding and the repulsive stags.
The handjobee is still with his wife and she has no idea. Sad

OP please do not marry this man. You sound so lovely and his behaviour is screaming that something went on.

LuluBlakey1 · 12/11/2021 22:37
That is horrible! What is it with men that they do these things? And what kind of woman wants to do that as a job? I feel so bloody out of touch with younger people.
Thisthatandtheotherthing · 12/11/2021 23:16

From everything you have said it sounds very much like your partner has cheated on you on the stag. I am sorry to say that, but you best start interrogating him or trying to gather more evidence because there is no way someone would make that mock up imagine with his face superimposed on it if he hadn't cheated. I'm so sorry

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 12/11/2021 23:22

Be aware that he will probably realise that he can't get out of it so will likely admit to a much watered down version of the truth. His mates think he cheated as he took a girl back, but he couldnt go through with it and they just slept in the same bed etc. so he told his mates he had done it. He will go into damage limitation mode and give you just enough to try and explain what happened without completely denying it. It's all bollocks. Hes already lied to you and tried to gaslight you

Onthedunes · 12/11/2021 23:46

He sounds a bit low brow for you, wouldn't you rather have someone whose's a bit classier ?

He's the type to follow idiots and not think for himself, not all men are idiots, find a nice one where this type of laddish, immature situation doesn't keep arising.

He sounds s thick as pig shit.

Jesskir89 · 13/11/2021 00:35

Doesn't sound good at all op and the meme from the friend would be all the proof I needed.... I hope he comes clean so you can move on

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 13/11/2021 06:23

@LuluBlakey1 oh it definitely gets worse.

Did you know you can hire a dwarf to be handcuffed to the stag "for a laugh"?

We had a stag group turn up at a bar I ran trying to get in. We refused as we didn't allow any sort of fancy dress and the handcuffs fell into that remit. Told them if they removed the handcuffs they'd be allowed in and they refused and said
"Its not funny if he's not cuffed to a midget"
This bloke was just stood there being insulted and used as a prop.

LaurieFairyCake · 13/11/2021 06:30

I agree it's very suspicious Thanks

And that he will just continue to lie until he tells half truths (it meant nothing, it was only a blow job, I couldn't get it up, I just talked to her as I didn't want to cheat on you)

Ruby0707 · 13/11/2021 09:03

I think it's as clear as day that he cheated. What more do you need?

I'm sorry.

itsallgoingpearshaped · 13/11/2021 10:41

Hope you're ok this morning, OP.

AllTheWeetabix · 13/11/2021 10:54

How are things OP?

JurgensCakeBaby · 13/11/2021 10:56

Maybe he didn't cheat, but tried to, or tried to buy sexual acts from one of the bar girls who was offended and threw her drink at him. Hence the washing of the clothes, for me even though nothing physical had happened in the above scenario, it wouldn't be any less hurtful to me

Bookworm20 · 13/11/2021 11:48

I hope you are ok OP and have decided to talk to someone irl who can support you.

Pinkbonbon · 13/11/2021 11:49

My first gut feeling on reading your post, before the bit about the picture, was that he or one of his friends had done or attempted to do something really not OK to a woman. Eg, been forceful with one of those bar girls. I'd say maybe similar to what Jurgenscakebaby suggests above... but I think it would have had to have been pretty bad for him to then decide to stop social media.

And then obviously the text clarifies that he cheated. But it seems that the implication was that the women involved was not bloody happy for some reason. Maybe a prostitute that they all saw but one refused to pay?