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I want to believe my DP but I have doubts.

319 replies

Anon1244 · 12/11/2021 13:23

I have been with my partner for 5 years and we have a 3 yo DC together (DP is a great Dad) and a wedding booked in the near future. Never until recently have I ever had reason do doubt his fidelity.

My DP went on a stag do a few months ago, not for him but a friend. It was 2 nights in Newcastle, it was booked through a stag do company (this is sort of relevant).

My DP came back from the stag do and told me all about it. One story stood out as weird in my head BUT did not make me feel suspicious at the time. He said that on one of the nights the booking company organised for 2 “bar girls” to take them on a bar crawl around Newcastle. He said at the end of the night he gave the girls £20 tip and so did his friend. However, another man at the party did not give them a tip and so one of the girls threw a drink in his face. For me something did not add up about this story as it seemed there was more to this story. However, I did not say anything at the time.

Then the very day he got home, he started washing all the clothes he took with him. I usually do the washing in the house and I felt this was very odd, as he is very much someone who would usually leave a bag unpacked for weeks. I felt it was odd, and I will admit that I started to feel suspicious in my head. When I commented about the washing and that it was strange, he was quite defensive and asked me if I was suggesting something. In fairness, looking back my tone was accusatory, I could have dealt with it better.

Then shortly after he came back he deleted all social media from his phone. So, whilst his Facebook profile was active, he would not receive any notifications or messages. When I asked him, he said he wanted to take a social media break. In the 5 years I have known him he has never done that, so it was out of character.

I found this suspicious and coupled with the other stuff I had this really overwhelming feeling that something was wrong. So I outright asked him if he cheated on my while he was away. Possibly not the best way to deal with things, I’ll admit. It turned into a massive argument, he was furious that I had accused him. Things have been frosty since.

Then Halloween evening we had carved pumpkins with DC and DP had taken some pictures of them with the candle in. I asked to see the pictures and he said he had sent them to his friend (from stag do) on Whatsapp and would show me. He was scrolling through the pictures on Whatsapp but accidentally went too far and I saw a picture for a split second. It was so quick because he realised what he had done and couldn't get the phone away quick enough, however I saw a few words but couldn't be sure.

I made out I didn't see anything and have carried on as normal. However, last night he left his phone on the side and I looked on the messages between him and his friend and found the image. His friend had sent him a mocked up image of a man wearing a sign saying “I cheated on my girlfriend in Newcastle and this is my punishment.” He had replied with a laughing face emoji. I felt really sick and hurt seeing that, my stomach just dropped.

I asked him to leave last night but I am not sure what to do. I really love this man. His attitude has not been great either. He said I need to calm down and I am overreacting. He said the image is a joke. He hasn't even apologised to me he properly, just a “Sorry if the image has offended you”.

He is making out that I have come to this conclusion out of my own insecurities. Do you think this is the case? The thing is I have never been insecure about my DP being unfaithful to me before. If you asked me 6 months ago if my DP would cheat on my I would have bet my house/car/everything that he would not have.

I just feel like I need someone from the outside to tell me if:

  1. I am justified in my suspicions
  2. I am being insecure and I am the one causing this rift between us.
OP posts:
Pumpkinsonparade · 12/11/2021 17:07

I would be going on the fb of the clubs /bars of Newcastle.. They have loads of pictures up.

WhoUsedMyName · 12/11/2021 17:08

So many Red flags here. Sorry op

girlmom21 · 12/11/2021 17:10

@Pumpkinsonparade

I would be going on the fb of the clubs /bars of Newcastle.. They have loads of pictures up.
My DP went on stag do to Newcastle. The idea of doing this has never crossed my mind because I trust him.

The problem is, he told her about the girls. Anything she sees pictures of in clubs and bars can be explained away.
It's what happened afterwards that's the concern.

OakPine · 12/11/2021 17:13

I have one prime rule with relationships. If I am in a relationship with someone and they fuck someone else, it's over. And by over I mean, I wouldn't be asking for details, wouldn't be pleading for them to say.
Over as in out!

Best of luck OP - sending you virtual hugs. Hope it works out well.

nocnoc · 12/11/2021 17:13

OP. Do not be a pushover when you “talk”. Do you know what, if I’d done this to my partner, there would be no talking about it. He’d have all my clothes out of the wardrobe and dumped on the driveway for when I came back from nursery. He wouldn’t care who saw it. There would be no politeness or saving face or discussion. It would be “your stuff stays out until you tell the truth”. You are the victim here so you stay grim faced and hard. Don’t pander. Don’t make deals. Don’t make him feel better. You want the facts or he packs his bags tonight and you are also calling the wife tonight. See how scared or defensive he gets about that. He’s coming with your DC because he thinks you’ll play calm in front of them. You put DC behind a shut door with iPad or TV and sit with your arms crossed and just stare at him. You don’t cook him dinner or shag him. He gets nothing.

astoundedgoat · 12/11/2021 17:27

I'm so sorry you are going through this. The image his friend sent him is incredibly damning, and if it WAS a joke - which is still almost within the bounds of possibility?, it was in incredibly bad taste and is about to result in a wedding being called off. What a massive dick he is.

Pr1mr0se · 12/11/2021 17:27

Just ask him.

girlmom21 · 12/11/2021 17:29

@Pr1mr0se

Just ask him.
When she did that he kicked off.
WizardOfAus · 12/11/2021 17:30

Please don't marry this man.

Tricked2003 · 12/11/2021 17:30

Trust your instincts!!!

I was married to my ex for 16 years and never doubted his fidelity for a second..........until one night he was out with mates from work and was late back and hadn't messaged, there was just something off and for the first time ever it crossed my mind that he might be seeing someone.
A week later he told me he was seeing someone.

Smiler79 · 12/11/2021 17:31

Having his face super imposed on a guy with a cheating in Newcastle sign - is damning evidence I’m afraid . And shame on him and his friend for joking about it

WhoppingBigBackside · 12/11/2021 17:31

Have you seen any photos of the stag do?

WhoppingBigBackside · 12/11/2021 17:32

and I too am sorry you are going through this.

MyCatHatesEverybody · 12/11/2021 17:34

The meme could have been his friend winding him up because you accused him of cheating.

I'd have thought if that were the case then the joke would make more sense if it were showing her DP under the thumb or a bunny boiler type meme. Not a man doing his penance by holding a sign up saying guilty (I paraphrase).

Sorry OP but in situations such as this the most obvious explanation is usually the correct one.

GeorgiaGirl52 · 12/11/2021 17:38

@nomorefrogs

I would tell him that as you believe he has cheated but not respected you enough to be honest then the marriage is off and you are over. This might be enough to get him to be honest. If you marry him he will continue to hide stuff from you and that is no way to live believe me!
Definitely do not marry him while this is unresolved. Tell him you are going to be tested for STDs and you want him to get tested too. Start planning for life as a single parent. Looking for job, apartment etc. for you and your child. Don't hide what you are doing. Make sure he knows -- if he cares, he will own up. If he doesn't, move on.
Fredstheteds · 12/11/2021 17:40

Sounds a bit set up but his choice to indulge and good for you sticking to your principles. Not easy

Lovelymincepies · 12/11/2021 17:49

I'm very sorry he has cheated on you. Your gut instincts are now doubt right so do not let him gaslight you.

He's done it once and he will do it again.

Amandasummers · 12/11/2021 17:56

It all sounded pretty suss before, but now you’ve expanded about the picture, there wouldn’t be a doubt in my mind. The fact the pair of idiots, one who’s just got married as well (his belief in marriage must be rock solid 🤨) think it’s funny makes it so much worse. Tell him if he can’t respect himself enough to not shag about, he should at least have enough respect for you to allow you to make a decision on yours and your child’s future based truth rather than whatever lies he’s trying to concoct to cover up his own disgraceful actions. Absolute scum.

NotExactlyOptimistic · 12/11/2021 17:57

I would sit him down calmly and tell him you're speaking first, you only need 2 minutes to say what you need to say and then the ball is in his court. Tell him you know he has cheated (which he has sorry) then tell him quietly you know he was sorry and he was drunk and it would have meant nothing but until he gives you full details you can't move forward. Tell him denying anything or not giving you every single detail you need to know isn't something you will entertain so he needn't waste his breath. When he hopefully realises he has no other option listen to his version of the truth to get as much closure as you possibly can for yourself. Then tell him to pack his bags, turn in his house key and get the fuck out of your life forever. Sorry OP. Heartbreak is utterly traumatising x

ErickBroch · 12/11/2021 18:00

Your post, to me, screams that the 'bar girl throwing a drink' story was actually a cover for them going to a strip club. He wanted to tell the story but not tell you that bit, so he's changed the details. The meme shows he has cheated, it's too specific, combined with washing his clothes. I would pretty much be 100% certain. I am not sure if I would be able to get over it. I am so sorry for you OP, I am due to get married next year and I would be crushed. I feel for you.

WonderfulYou · 12/11/2021 18:03

Honestly no one on here can tell you if he cheated or not.

The girls were probably party girls who don’t tend to go around sleeping with every man they work with.
The photo could have been about the person sending it.
He could have shit pissed himself so wanted to wash his own clothes quickly.
He could be right that all of this in your head but he could also be full of shit and did cheat on you.

Honestly I don’t think he’ll ever admit to anything because either he’s done nothing wrong or he’s a coward.
So you need to ask yourself can you truly forget about this and move on and have a happy life together or are you going to be paranoid and jealous over every night out he has in the future.
I think you should take a few days and not rush into shy decisions yet.

KarmaElBanana · 12/11/2021 18:11

Haven’t RTFT... I’m wondering about the drink throwing story. I agree with PP that he’s included that as it contains an element of truth about something he wants to conceal.

Could it be the girls were charging for sexual favours (£20 a hand job or whatever as someone mentioned upthread about escorts) and someone from the stag group accepted a blow job or whatever but didn’t want to pay – and claimed they thought it was just an everyday sexual encounter with no strings attached. Hence the drink in the face (a massive overreaction in your DP‘s version of events).

Do you think it was your DP who got the drink thrown on him and that’s why he washed his clothes etc?

VelvetRope212 · 12/11/2021 18:11

@Pr1mr0se

Just ask him.
Because cheaters never ever lie.
Lightisnotwhite · 12/11/2021 18:17

So it just boils down to him being honest.
Then it’s up to YOU to decide if the wedding is something you want to do.

Personally anyone that was keeping anything they “didn’t think I could handle” stuff ,would be a no no.

A drunken stag with some women who make a living from drunken stags wouldn’t signal the end, unless he knew it would be if you found out.

Teeturtle · 12/11/2021 18:26

I think that instincts can generally be trusted. But in case there was any doubt, the superimposed photo on the stock meme is surely all the confirmation you need. The only reason a friend would do this is if he cheated. He cheated on you and now he is laughing about it with his friends. I am not sure what talking about it tonight is going to do, you already tried that.