Team Ioan Gruffudd or Alice Evans?

[BabyBearRus]

I've been following the story around the breakup of Ioan and Alice. I haven't been a great fan of Alice in the past, but I do feel for her and her children right now. Who else thinks that Ioan has behaved atrociously to his family? According to his wife, he has been having an affair for a long while, and making her feel as though she was in the wrong for months.

@ButYouGottaHaveASkillJeff

Sorry, being an actor and maintaining a media presence is a bollocks excuse for going instagram official with the new one. He knew at that stage she wasn't dealing with any of it well, he refused to speak with her.

He knew exactly what reaction it would provoke. As the mother of his children he could've told her privately.

Absolutely, both he and Bianca that nobody has ever heard of before (smart move there) have done this to be mean and spiteful and rub her nose in it. So unclassy. It's so obvious as he is not a prolific social media user. She only has 107 followers yet has protected her tweets as if she is suddenly famous. The whole thing stinks. Alice might be off her rocker, who knows, but they've treated her disgracefully. He should have had the balls to tell her and the kids he had a new woman before making it "instagram official" - we all know don't we that until it's made official on social media it isn't real? Pathetic, spiteful and horrible.

@youvegottenminuteslynn no, obviously not. It's not a race to the bottom. Although it doesn't make it ok, IMO she's coming from a place of out of control desperation. He's just being a cunty prick.

Or maybe he posted it because he is sick of living his life trying to mange his exs behaviour and is fed up of her controlling all aspects of his life.

To be clear, I have no idea if he or she was abusive. But there's no proof he was abusive and we have no idea why he posted that when he did.

Maybe he didn't tell her privately because he doesn't want to speak to her directly because she is verbally abusive or maybe he told the girls but didn't tell her or maybe his lawyers have advised him not to speak to her anymore, who knows?

Can you imagine advising a woman to tell an emotionally abusive ex partner who verbally abuses you and rants all over social media about you that you're in a new relationship! honestly really?? the first bit of advice on MN is to grey rock an abusive ex and not engage.

How do you know he didn't tell the kids directly and they didn't tell her??

I feel like I've been pushed into the defending the guy when I'm sure he's probable been at fault, but honestly can you not see the double standards here??

She's nuts. Hope he gets the kids.

Team Alice. I have it on good authority that fidelity is not his strongest suit.

Firesidefox yeah sure you do

[quote ButYouGottaHaveASkillJeff]@youvegottenminuteslynn no, obviously not. It's not a race to the bottom. Although it doesn't make it ok, IMO she's coming from a place of out of control desperation. He's just being a cunty prick. [/quote]
As you said - In your opinion. They may well both be cunty pricks!

Yeah they both are at the moment! I just sympathise with her more.

The whole thing is nuts.

twitter.com/nofukcstogive

Someone created this account - which is similar to the "Meghan Markle Sugars" (yes, I know ....) - the world truly has gone mad.

I'm not reading any more about this story.

@Firesidefox

Team Alice. I have it on good authority that fidelity is not his strongest suit.

I have it on good authority that Alice hacked his phone and the phone of his new girlfriend and made the Instagram posts herself.

The photo was one her PI took of them.

I really don't but it's so easy to post pretending you actily know what's going on.

If he had cheated multiple times, are you suggesting Alice wouldn't be posting about that too? To back up her claim that this was an affair?

Absolutely, both he and Bianca that nobody has ever heard of before (smart move there) have done this to be mean and spiteful and rub her nose in it. So unclassy. It's so obvious as he is not a prolific social media user

See I just don’t see that, I think he’s single, has been for a year, is entitled to a relationship and that due to his fame if he is seen out with a new woman it will make the media, so it’s better for him to announce it and go public than let the paps do it for them. And if he had let the paps do it, then Alice would still have went for his jugular.

The only way he could win would be to stay eternally single.

For those saying he should have told Alice first, based on her recent (and long term, to be honest) social media use do you honestly think she wouldn't have been straight on Twitter and Instagram shouting about this anyway and accusing him of an affair regardless? Because she seems so incredibly erratic at the moment that I don't think him speaking to her in private about it first would have made much difference to her response to the news tbh.

I think it's a private thing and their feelings of resentment towards each other should never ever even be allowed a chance of being heard by their children.

@FlyingWhistle

I think it's a private thing and their feelings of resentment towards each other should never ever even be allowed a chance of being heard by their children.

Absolutely this.

The damage being done to those poor kids through this embarrassing public spectacle should not be underestimated.

There are literally threads on this front page of people who are 3 or 4 MONTHS out of a relationship with kids and nobody is giving them grief for dating again. I think most of this Faux solidarity is projection of ones own insecurities that the posters current partner might date a younger woman in the event of a break up. I bet if he had chosen a woman in her 40s nobody would be saying a word

She's publishing private emails and airing separation grievances in the middle of a FT with his daughter and people think he should have given her the courtesy of contacting her privately first 😂😂😂😂

What do you think the mad twat would have done with this private information

@Bluntness100

Why should he tell her first, he told the kids, it’s nothing to do with Alice. They have Been split a year.

I’ve yet to see a woman on here be advised she’s got to tell her abusive ex that she’s dating someone before she’s allowed to go public with him.

Absolutely! It's all HE HAS NO SAY IN YOUR LIFE, you're free now, do what makes you happy... and so on ad nauseum.

From what I have seen, he appears to be keeping a dignified silence.

She appears to be a raging loon. She needs to stop all this SM crap and claw back a bit of dignity.

God, Sarah vine in the Mail has just written an article saying her behaviour is basically because of the menopause.

That’s so dismaying, menopause doesn’t make us behave like that and perpetuating the myth it makes us irrational is totally unacceptable

I don’t know why Alice is behaving as she is, pain, hurt, her personality type, booze, and neither does Sarah bloody vine. But writing an article saying oh it’s becayse she’s menopausal is doing women everywhere a huge disservice.

The funny thing about the new article that woman posted today is that one of the highest rated comments is a poster saying "you wish you could have done the same"
And that is exactly what I said about projection. It is obvious as hell to anyone who sees it.
When she split from her husband, especially after all her vitriolic articles on H&M, she was forced to adopt a demure tone for a while to avoid being eaten alive by the comments section.
As is evident by her posts on The Fail, she has soooo much anger in her, I suspect she would have loved to have a AE-like meltdown in the newspaper but she couldnt, so shes using her "solidarity" with Alice to say the things she couldnt say in her own separation.

Let’s pretend the new woman was posting here.

‘I’ve started seeing a man who says he’s separated. I know for a fact they’re living separately most of the time. His ex says they have been having sex, but I believe him when he says they’re living like brother and sister when they have to be under the same roof. He doesn’t want to rock the boat with his wife because she’s crazy and she will stop him seeing his kids.’

What would the responses to her be?

Poor Alice.

I really feel her distress. I hope she gets some help soon.

@TheStoic

Let’s pretend the new woman was posting here.

‘I’ve started seeing a man who says he’s separated. I know for a fact they’re living separately most of the time. His ex says they have been having sex, but I believe him when he says they’re living like brother and sister when they have to be under the same roof. He doesn’t want to rock the boat with his wife because she’s crazy and she will stop him seeing his kids.’

What would the responses to her be?

But there's no evidence that's remotely the situation. More "I've started seeing a man who has been separated for a year". I think there's so much projection going on here.