Page 7 | Team Ioan Gruffudd or Alice Evans?

BabyBearRus · 2021-10-29T23:47:05+00:00

I've been following the story around the breakup of Ioan and Alice. I haven't been a great fan of Alice in the past, but I do feel for her and her children right now. Who else thinks that Ioan has behaved atrociously to his family? According to his wife, he has been having an affair for a long while, and making her feel as though she was in the wrong for months.

Nyxs · 30/10/2021 16:11

@Cheeseandlobster actually I have changed my mind and agree with you. It appears she posted this on September this year when she claims he had ghosted her for 10 months.

And some of the comments she is agreeing with in the comments section is really bad.

Not someone have have a joke with a partner or ex. It's quite enlightening to the sort of person she is.

Bluntness100 · 30/10/2021 16:19

@Loudestcat14

Bluntness100 When I saw that I felt so sorry for TO. I also don't think she'd endorse a couple she knew to be cheating considering that was the cause of her marriage breaking up!

Yes, I also don’t think Tamsin was in anyway posting their cheating was “amazing” . Simply she saw a single man say he was happy in a new relationship and she posted amazing. No further thought.

Alice then attacking her saying that post “amazing” meant she knew and that Tamsin would need to live with her actions for the rest of her life was just appalling.

Which is why I wonder if there is alcohol behind some of her posts. Is she drunken posting maybe.

CrashBank · 30/10/2021 16:23

The Hoarse Whisperer fiasco:
Alice saw something that a minor Twitter celeb (their handle is “TheHoarseWhisperer”) had tweeted and didn’t agree with it. So she, very sensibly, blocked that account and didn’t engage with it.

So far so normal.

The person running the HW account then discovered that AE had blocked them (unsure how, I’m sure the cess pit that is Twitter has some form of monitoring tool for that), and blocked her in return. So far, so playground (“you’re not coming to my party”, “well you’re not coming to mine either! Nyeh!”).

AE then decided to unblock HW, at which point she discovered she’d been blocked by them. Which led to this series of tweets:
m.imgur.com/a/sbIaLYe

Which then led to people desperately trying to contact Ioan (who was in Aus, filming) via social media, email, phone, etc because they genuinely thought that AE was going to follow through on her threat to commit suicide while in sole care of their children.

This was back in 2019, long before the divorce started.

Bluntness100 · 30/10/2021 16:23

@Tokyotammy

I think that was awful, how she attacked Tamsin Outhwaite. Nothing short of bullying really.

This woman is publicly unravelling. There is nothing heroic in what she is doing. It's very sad to watch and all those people cheering her on to 'tell her truth', have you stopped and considered the long term consequences to this woman if she carries on this way. She is handing him a strong case for parental alienation on a platter, very publicly. If he goes down the route of seeking full custody on that basis and drags her through the court, this woman could sink further and end up hurting herself.

This isn't a rally cry for wronged women everywhere, this is a woman imploding in full public view. She's not well and needs space to heal.

Well said. Some People are taking her at her word, and thinking good for her, when actually she’s been at this for a long time and been on the attack for a year now.

Of course they co ordinated saying they were in a relationship. I really don’t understand why someone’s yapping on about a pr stunt and how it means they must have cheated, more they are in the public eye and it would be common knowledge soon enough they were in a relationship, so they need to be open about it,, and quite frankly they shouldn’t hAve to hide, they are both single.

Bluntness100 · 30/10/2021 16:27

Which led to this series of tweets: m.imgur.com/a/sbIaLYe

That’s awful, as previously said I wonder if alcohol is something to do with her current on line behaviour too. She posted a pic of her bare tummy a few days ago saying “this is what I look like now, but no baby” and she looked like her tummy was more extended and bloated than “fat” , which can be indicative of alcohol issues.

zafferana · 30/10/2021 16:31

Hmmm starting to feel like Ioan's manager/publicist/mum is on this thread trying to do a bit of damage limitation ...

LoekMa · 30/10/2021 16:32

@CrashBank woooow those tweets. How many threads have women opened up here with their abusive partners threatening to commit suicide as a punishment and the response was ALWAYS obvious, that was MORE ABUSE. Look at the "husband fired for sexual misconduct" thread for reference.
This woman is TWEETING about drinking whisky while taking pills?? Because someone blocked her on twitter? I pray to God Ioan goes for sole custody, maybe have his parents help him take care of the daughters because she is given very off vibes. I wouldnt want them to get hurt ot worse as a revenge act to him. Somebody get those poor girls out of her house now

Cheeseandlobster · 30/10/2021 16:33

[quote Nyxs]@Cheeseandlobster actually I have changed my mind and agree with you. It appears she posted this on September this year when she claims he had ghosted her for 10 months.

And some of the comments she is agreeing with in the comments section is really bad.

Not someone have have a joke with a partner or ex. It's quite enlightening to the sort of person she is.[/quote]
Oh gosh. I hadn't read the comments but now I feel a bit dirty. She either hasn't had media training and is in a terrible place or is just one those attention seeking people who puts everything on social media. Reading her attacking people who have a valid point is extremely uncomfortable. And if he had ghosted her for 9 months ( as from the date of the photo) then why would she even post the photo in the first place?

BrilloPaddy · 30/10/2021 16:34

"Team" their children.

Someone needs to be putting those kids first...... which neither of their parents seem capable of.

My Dad walked out on my Mum when I was 13........ Mum literally went mad with grief and heartbreak, and was hellbent on making Dad and the OW pay.............and ended up being sectioned. Those months with her were terrifying, and not one family member stepped in to do anything. I've never forgiven or forgotten.

Nyxs · 30/10/2021 16:38

@zafferana

Hmmm starting to feel like Ioan's manager/publicist/mum is on this thread trying to do a bit of damage limitation ...

Yes he cares that much about mumsnet that he is getting someone to monitor the website and defend him.

That's some reasonable and entirely unparanoid thinking on your part 🙄

MichelleScarn · 30/10/2021 16:45

@DuchessOfDisaster But he's humiliated himself hasn't he because it's clear what a total tool he is. And the girlfriend just looks like the school speccy nerd. I don't think it will last.

She "looks like the school speccy nerd" ?! What a pathetic, bitchy, childish thing to write? I think you're showing who the tool is with a statement like that!

youvegottenminuteslynn · 30/10/2021 16:51

@zafferana

Hmmm starting to feel like Ioan's manager/publicist/mum is on this thread trying to do a bit of damage limitation ...

Really? I think they've got bigger fish to fry tbh.

And he / his team didn't create the tweets (and more recently Instagram posts) she's posted over the last few years, including pre break up, that show someone with incredibly poor judgement, perhaps an alcohol abuse issue and also total lack of sensitivity towards her daughters and their mental wellbeing. Talking about her child having to 'talk her down', making 'jokey' but actually just nasty comments about what they might look like as adults in a negative way etc.

As much as anyone feels for someone who has been cheated on IF that's what's happened, her behaviour as been erratic and concerning for a long time.

Bluntness100 · 30/10/2021 16:52

The divorce papers have been served, they are apparently going for joint custody of the kids and had an agreement on the custody split , however Alice has said her agreement is not legally binding and as such becayse it’s not been court enforced then if she wants her kids an extra night she will have them an extra night, and he can’t stop her. I doubt it’s just an extra night, but we all know how infuriated parents get if the other parent reneges on allowing the child to be with them at the appointed time.

So looks like it’s going to go through the courts and is going to be a long drawn out divorce and custody battle.

I don’t know why she keeps tweeting he abandoned the kids, he’s fighting for joint custody, she’s said it herself and it’s her that’s stopping him,

Viviennemary · 30/10/2021 16:57

I can't see how joint custody can work when they live on opposite sides of the world.

zafferana · 30/10/2021 17:00

Yes he cares that much about mumsnet that he is getting someone to monitor the website and defend him.

You don't think his team is monitoring online traffic and trying to limit the damage to him? That shows your naivete, if so. MN isn't some dark little corner of the internet. The thread title names both Ioan and Alice, which makes it very easy to find with a Google search.

Bluntness100 · 30/10/2021 17:01

@Viviennemary

I can't see how joint custody can work when they live on opposite sides of the world.

I don’t think they do from what she is postin

Tokyotammy · 30/10/2021 17:12

zafferana which posts are you claiming are from his PR team?

Those tweets are disturbing, in reality for any ordinary person they would probably prompt a report to Social Services. There are certainly concerns regarding child safety.

I wonder if the school are taking note and keeping an eye on the kids. I really hope her family are stepping in for the sake of the kids. I'm just hoping this doesn't end it tragedy.

This isn't about her or him anymore really, it's about safe space for those kids.

bizmum1 · 30/10/2021 17:13

I'm really rooting for Alice. Ioan is clearly a narcissist and she has been gaslighted to breaking point by a man who never loved her the way she deserved to be loved. Anyway, Karma is a bitch and he's got it coming.

Max4u · 30/10/2021 17:19

bizmum1 Karma is going to bite Alice in the arse faster than it will Ioan. All his legal team have to do is sit and read out her tweets in court. She's well and truly shot herself in the foot. Bullying others and threatening suicide is just manipulative.

ChequerBoard · 30/10/2021 17:20

@bizmum1

I'm really rooting for Alice. Ioan is clearly a narcissist and she has been gaslighted to breaking point by a man who never loved her the way she deserved to be loved. Anyway, Karma is a bitch and he's got it coming.

And what about the impact her online ranting is having on her kids?

Aren't you rooting for them at all??

I expect they feel bloody terrified about what is going to happen, their mother is a loose cannon right now and isn't putting their needs first.

Someone need to intervene be that family, friends or social services.

StrychnineInTheSandwiches · 30/10/2021 17:21

I wonder what it feels like for their kids knowing that strangers on the internet have so passionately picked sides in their family breakdown.

It just looks like one massive mess to me. It's rarely clean cut.

Loudestcat14 · 30/10/2021 17:21

@zafferana

Yes he cares that much about mumsnet that he is getting someone to monitor the website and defend him.

You don't think his team is monitoring online traffic and trying to limit the damage to him? That shows your naivete, if so. MN isn't some dark little corner of the internet. The thread title names both Ioan and Alice, which makes it very easy to find with a Google search.

Well I can categorically state that I am not on his payroll! I am, though, someone who knows a lot about libel and defamation law and thought it worth cautioning PP over posting statements about him committing adultery and abandoning his kids as fact, because he could sue, because MN isn't some dark little corner of the Internet as you say.

StrychnineInTheSandwiches · 30/10/2021 17:22

Those tweets linked above are concerning.

MichelleScarn · 30/10/2021 17:23

AE then decided to unblock HW, at which point she discovered she’d been blocked by them. Which led to this series of tweets:
m.imgur.com/a/sbIaLYe*

Bloody hell, that is vitriolic, unhinged aggression.
She sounds absolutely vile and dangerous!

Nyxs · 30/10/2021 17:28

@zafferana

Yes he cares that much about mumsnet that he is getting someone to monitor the website and defend him.

You don't think his team is monitoring online traffic and trying to limit the damage to him? That shows your naivete, if so. MN isn't some dark little corner of the internet. The thread title names both Ioan and Alice, which makes it very easy to find with a Google search.

I think there's a chance someone keeps an eye on the internet.

I think there very little chance his mum or anyone else has made an account here to reply people, dropping in other things Alice has done.

Mn isn't the site it once was, there's very few celebs that give a shit about what we think. Certainly not to the point you think they do.

They would be watching for liable. Not what team Susan in Birmingham is on.