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Team Ioan Gruffudd or Alice Evans?

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BabyBearRus · 30/10/2021 00:47

I've been following the story around the breakup of Ioan and Alice. I haven't been a great fan of Alice in the past, but I do feel for her and her children right now. Who else thinks that Ioan has behaved atrociously to his family? According to his wife, he has been having an affair for a long while, and making her feel as though she was in the wrong for months.

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Starseeking · 09/11/2021 13:55

Oh gosh, those screenshots are awful. These are conversations Alice should be having with her friends (I'm aware she's said she doesn't have any, but still!), not across the internet.

Reporting the conversations her DC have with their father is really below the belt, and AE needs to stop that.

Also, it seems to me as if she is building an unhealthily co-dependent relationship with her DC; given that they are at school the majority of the time, and they have a nanny who works 40 hours a week (AE's words), why on earth would her DC freak out if she goes to an audition??? It sounds more like AE is reliant on the DC to keep her occupied, rather than them leaning on her (especially given their ages).

No-one is coming out of this whole saga looking good.

sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea · 09/11/2021 14:21

'Aw! Poor Puppy! Poor lickle lying cheating manipulating gas-lighting fat-shaming two-faced piece of shit cwtchy puppy.' (from AE's twitter)

Been following this thread for a while, and not really wanted to comment, but jfc. Whatever has happened between them - and none of us know - she is talking very publicly about the father of their shared children. She might be getting some temporary relief from her woes by venting like this, but he's always going to be their dad. What is she actually hoping to get from this?

I agree with a lot of previous posters. She needs help & support from people who care about her, not a twitter mob of cheerleaders goading her on to call her children's grandmother a narc. She seems very alone - and people saying she's 'brave' are ignoring the longer term damage she's doing to her children.

I split HORRENDOUSLY from ExP. I have never badmouthed him publicly despite it being so bloody tempting. Only a few close friends know, and occasionally I mention it on here. Because no matter how I feel about him & what he did to me, he is still their dad. My relationship with him is not their relationship with him. How AE can't see how destructive this is is beyond me.

bogeythefungusman · 09/11/2021 14:39

She has family who she obviously has no contact with, she says she has no friends. And she's trying to make out it's Ioan who is the problem.

If you find that all your relationships with family/friends break down, could it be, perhaps, that the problem isn't them, but you.

BarefootHippieChick · 09/11/2021 14:51

@bogeythefungusman

She has family who she obviously has no contact with, she says she has no friends. And she's trying to make out it's Ioan who is the problem.

If you find that all your relationships with family/friends break down, could it be, perhaps, that the problem isn't them, but you.

This exactly. And I would imagine she's only interested in the 'friends' who are bigging her up and agreeing with everything she says. Any friends giving her sensible advice will be swiftly kicked to the curb no doubt.

sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea · 09/11/2021 15:11

twitter.com/jambusher/status/1458018884150235136

Laughing at domestic violence? How would that read if it were 'man bursts open wife's breasts'? Would she be laughing at that? I don't think so.

LoekMa · 09/11/2021 15:25

@sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea

twitter.com/jambusher/status/1458018884150235136

Laughing at domestic violence? How would that read if it were 'man bursts open wife's breasts'? Would she be laughing at that? I don't think so.

Wow.
Team Ioan Gruffudd or Alice Evans?
Glassofshloer · 09/11/2021 15:25

@sadeyedladyofthelowlandsea

twitter.com/jambusher/status/1458018884150235136

Laughing at domestic violence? How would that read if it were 'man bursts open wife's breasts'? Would she be laughing at that? I don't think so.

Of course not. I notice the Alice supporters on here have scarpered since her more volatile comments have been exposed…
WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps · 09/11/2021 15:38

Of course not. I notice the Alice supporters on here have scarpered since her more volatile comments have been exposed…

Yeah funny that 🤔

sunglassesonthetable · 09/11/2021 15:55

Of course not. I notice the Alice supporters on here have scarpered since her more volatile comments have been exposed…

Nope not scarpered, still having a read in between my day.

I said pages ago I don't like her volatile tweeting, that I don't think it's good for her children.

But you seem to have to be one thing or the other on here. Not much going on except it's black or white. One is all good and one is all evil.

It's pretty clear there's not much empathy and from some posters, just a delighted expose of someone who's massively struggling.

Posters who were happy be volatile and bullying on SM themselves.

I hope Alice doesn't go the full Brittany Spears, because she seems very vulnerable and isolated.

So re the thread, still vaguely interested, but bothering to comment, not really.
Also tbh none of her tweets have been exposed on here. They're in full public view.

I suppose posters combing through and posting ( including what AE 'likes' Hmm) provides a service for everyone else.

Glassofshloer · 09/11/2021 15:58

@sunglassesonthetable would you have empathy for a man who liked messages to him suggesting he seriously injure his ex wife?

sunglassesonthetable · 09/11/2021 16:06

Don't like it all @Glassofshloer. And don't think she should have made a joke about it.

But I do think that's a massive oversimplification of what was there.

But if that's what you think is happening and sums up the situation, crack on.

Like I said I can't be bothered to get in a ruck about it. I find the tone of some posters on here too intent on PROVING that AE is all bad and IG is all good.

Life's not really like that.

Glassofshloer · 09/11/2021 16:10

I don’t usually believe in ‘reverse sexism’ but it’s alive and well here.

sunglassesonthetable · 09/11/2021 16:15

If you say so @Glassofshloer. Hmm

And yep, lots of very unappealing characteristics alive and well on here.

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sunglassesonthetable · 09/11/2021 16:19

Tbh I think you're all getting a bit bored agreeing with each other.

You need a bit more Alice supply. She'll tweet soon.

BruiserWoods · 09/11/2021 16:25

Most people on the thread agree, feeling for her pain but wishing she'd get off twitter. I hope she can urgently see her therapist. I dont mean that in a PA way. Im literally in therapy NOW. Total godsend for stabilising me when i was in a lot of pain.

NotMyselfWithoutCoffee · 09/11/2021 16:34

Everything she posts just gets worse and worse.
I don't know if she's going through a mental health crisis or just exposing the type of person she really is.
I did actually feel sorry for her to begin with.

NotMyselfWithoutCoffee · 09/11/2021 16:44

Also ioans lawyers must be rubbing their hands with glee, she is just throwing fuel at them.

Thesummeriwas16 · 09/11/2021 19:24

@WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps

Of course not. I notice the Alice supporters on here have scarpered since her more volatile comments have been exposed…

Yeah funny that 🤔

Actually been busy out and about today and only just caught up.

I've also always said she needs to step away from social media - that's obvious to anyone. I believe she is very emotionally fragile person and all this is just too much for her. I feel so sorry for her. Her mother died years ago and her father married again very shortly afterwards and has never really bothered with his kids since. I think she has a brother. I don't really understand why she says she has no friends though because if you look through her instagram posts she has friends from years ago and also was very friendly with Piers Morgan and his wife Celia Walden. I just hope someone reaches out to her.

TheSunnySide · 09/11/2021 22:33

I don't think she needs to see a therapist. Max be some better legal advice is in order but posting on social Media when you are hurt and angry isn't exactly unusual. What should women keep quiet when men are being dicks. Sounds to me like there is some long standing animosity between her and her in-laws which she is finally taking the opportunity to get off her chest.

Glassofshloer · 09/11/2021 22:35

@TheSunnySide

I don't think she needs to see a therapist. Max be some better legal advice is in order but posting on social Media when you are hurt and angry isn't exactly unusual. What should women keep quiet when men are being dicks. Sounds to me like there is some long standing animosity between her and her in-laws which she is finally taking the opportunity to get off her chest.
I suggest you read the full thread including where she liked a tweet suggesting she seriously injure him.
WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps · 09/11/2021 22:46

Sounds to me like there is some long standing animosity between her and her in-laws which she is finally taking the opportunity to get off her chest.

They are still her children's relatives, who will be maintaining contact with them. They're not taking the opportunity to trash her, funnily enough.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 09/11/2021 22:46

She couldn't be doing herself less of a favour than how she's behaving at the moment.

So all the 'go her' crew are doing is being complicit in her spiralling into an increasingly precarious position legally when it comes to custody and potential earnings.

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 09/11/2021 22:48

@WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps

I can’t keep up.

I thought we’d been told to stop “bun fighting”
Now we’re being told we need to come back and start arguing again?

WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps · 09/11/2021 22:59

[quote AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken]@WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps

I can’t keep up.

I thought we’d been told to stop “bun fighting”
Now we’re being told we need to come back and start arguing again?[/quote]
I didn't say to stop bun fighting or to come back and start arguing again 🤷🏼‍♀️

sunglassesonthetable · 09/11/2021 23:15

So all the 'go her' crew are doing is being complicit in her spiralling into an increasingly precarious position legally when it comes to custody and potential earnings.

seriously?

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