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Team Ioan Gruffudd or Alice Evans?

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BabyBearRus · 30/10/2021 00:47

I've been following the story around the breakup of Ioan and Alice. I haven't been a great fan of Alice in the past, but I do feel for her and her children right now. Who else thinks that Ioan has behaved atrociously to his family? According to his wife, he has been having an affair for a long while, and making her feel as though she was in the wrong for months.

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WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps · 08/11/2021 12:22

"Somebody like her" 😬 ouch.

DifferentHair · 08/11/2021 12:24

@LoekMa oh his poor mum. That's not on.

DifferentHair · 08/11/2021 12:26

@LoekMa

'I do feel bad' she says! As though she has no influence over how embarrassing this situation will be for his poor mum.

Glassofshloer · 08/11/2021 12:26

Sorry what bad thing has Ioan done to his mum?

NotMyselfWithoutCoffee · 08/11/2021 12:34

@glassofshloer

Left Alice and she's accusing him of having an affair.
Bit cheap to bring his mum into the spotlight though, she's coming across as vindictive now.

NotMyselfWithoutCoffee · 08/11/2021 12:35

@glassofshloer also I meant to say I think it's because his mum is religious.

Glassofshloer · 08/11/2021 12:35

[quote NotMyselfWithoutCoffee]@glassofshloer also I meant to say I think it's because his mum is religious.[/quote]
It’s getting very embarrassing & desperate.

NotMyselfWithoutCoffee · 08/11/2021 12:41

@glassofshloer

Yeah it's clutching at straws a bit.
I think at this point she is so desperate for this echo chamber to keep going she is just spouting off any old rubbish.
She needs to move on now, get off social media and work on her new life.. He's not coming back.

Glassofshloer · 08/11/2021 12:43

[quote NotMyselfWithoutCoffee]@glassofshloer

Yeah it's clutching at straws a bit.
I think at this point she is so desperate for this echo chamber to keep going she is just spouting off any old rubbish.
She needs to move on now, get off social media and work on her new life.. He's not coming back.[/quote]
Don’t say that to some of the posters on here whatever you do…

LoekMa · 08/11/2021 12:52

@Glassofshloer

Sorry what bad thing has Ioan done to his mum?
This is what she said..after that Blindgossip exposé came out.
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PatchworkElmer · 08/11/2021 13:02

You can never know what’s really gone on, can you. I’d hope that if DH left me, I would be able to keep DS out of it as much as possible and not try to put barriers between DH and him… but that’s our relationship, not IG and AE’s. I’ve got no idea if there’s been abuse or other issues. I do wish she’d stop sharing this stuff with Ella though- understatement of the century: it’s not healthy.

I think that her social media use is probably hindering any kind of reasonable communication now. On the face of it, his ‘new relationship’ Instagram post is a horrible thing to do. But I suppose if he called her/ the girls to tell them, she would’ve chucked it online within minutes alongside her own narrative. Although why he had to do it at all is beyond me- worries about being outed by the tabloids?

I am firmly team Ella and Elsie and hope their parents are able to work out what’s best for them calmly and privately- although I think this is highly unlikely 😞

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 08/11/2021 13:15

It looks as if the Tamzin Outhwaite chapter was a misunderstanding which has now been rectified.
I really like Tamzin so I’m glad.

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WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps · 08/11/2021 13:29

"Receiving angry messages" from randoms on the internet 🙄 very gracious of Tamzin.

LemonTT · 08/11/2021 13:31

With divorce just like with marriages there is a lot that is never revealed and a lot that is lied about. This can be something the couple agrees to do (usually to shield their children from gossip and conflict). Sometimes one or other actively puts out their version of events, which can be true or a complete load of garbage. The other party just doesn’t respond or perhaps retaliates with the truth or another load of garbage. Stakes are very high in divorce and that means people have a reason to be deceptive. In saying this I speak from the experience of real life not social media forums where the source information is often not the truth. And the content is skewed by topic and membership.

At the end of the day we only know that they have split and that he has met someone else following that split. It wasn’t an indecently quick new relationship. But if he was my friend I would have told him to put a relationship on the back burner till he sorted out his new life with his children and was free of the marriage.

However we know a lot of men and women struggle to be single or move on very quickly after separation (when there was no affair). I am mildly judgy about this type of thing. Mainly because I can’t see how people have repaired themselves or recovered from the previous relationship. So I doubt the depth of commitment. It’s not something I would point and condemn in a person. It’s part of the human condition that we have to accept.

WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps · 08/11/2021 13:38

Mainly because I can’t see how people have repaired themselves or recovered from the previous relationship. So I doubt the depth of commitment.

Probably because sadly, they actually stopped loving their spouse quite a while before the split, and had stayed with them longer than they should have (sense of duty, staying for the children...).
It's just a sad fact of life that people fall out of love.

Thesummeriwas16 · 08/11/2021 13:58

@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken

It looks as if the Tamzin Outhwaite chapter was a misunderstanding which has now been rectified. I really like Tamzin so I’m glad.
Good to see this! :-)
Glassofshloer · 08/11/2021 14:35

@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken

It looks as if the Tamzin Outhwaite chapter was a misunderstanding which has now been rectified. I really like Tamzin so I’m glad.
Not sure I believe this tbh. Has she been living under a rock as to not notice the newspapers full of her own friends divorce? And it would be a pretty over friendly post for just a colleague. I think she just doesn’t want Alice going for her as well.
LemonTT · 08/11/2021 17:23

@WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps

Mainly because I can’t see how people have repaired themselves or recovered from the previous relationship. So I doubt the depth of commitment.

Probably because sadly, they actually stopped loving their spouse quite a while before the split, and had stayed with them longer than they should have (sense of duty, staying for the children...).
It's just a sad fact of life that people fall out of love.

Even taking that into account, the whole process of separation is painful and stressful. I don’t know how you give someone the attention they should want. Especially if you have to build a new paradigm with your children.

Not condemning people, just always nags at me whether someone is giving themselves time to reflect and sort out their life.

But then I pace life tasks to one a week or a month if I can get away with it.

StucklnAMuumuuCantGetOutOflt · 08/11/2021 19:00

I'm with you on that schloer
''You look amazing and younger somehow'' in reply to his public thanks/shout out to a 'co-star' was odd as was assuming there was no subtext (unless all co-stars send luvvie messages like that. You wouldn't though would you? At most you'd write something like 'Hard shoot. Knackered after Covid. Thanks X for cheering me up/for the ice-cream!'
I call bullshit.

LoekMa · 09/11/2021 05:12

Jeeez I wonder why "his mom never liked her"
Isnt it funny how people like to DARVO in these situations? Calling his mother a narcissist infront of 30k+ followers just for some likes? That's her kids ONLY living Grandmother. She is just insufferable.

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WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps · 09/11/2021 05:47

Unbelievable LoekMa, just proving to his mum why she was right to dislike her I'd say 🙄

BruiserWoods · 09/11/2021 06:48

Blimey, yeh, that message about what he's doing to his mum 🙈

His mum probably isnt on twitter but she should reply that she wants them to be happy and get off twitter.

BruiserWoods · 09/11/2021 06:52

Ps given that my therapist tried to talk me out of sending a letter to my parents on the grounds that the fallout out from the letter would distract me from the original wound I need to heal, I wonder what her therapist makes of her labelling others narcs on twitter. Is she seeing a therapist right now?

Glassofshloer · 09/11/2021 07:34

It’s toe curling. These are the sort of tactics I would expect from a 16 year old after their first break up - ‘she’s not even pretty anyway’ ‘hated his mum tbh and she never liked me’ ‘good luck newgirlfriend you’re going to need it’ ‘hope you know he was sleeping with me when he was dating you newgirlfriend’ ‘he said he would never get another girlfriend how can he break such an insane and unrealistic promise’ etc

Im fully team Ioan now in response to the title of the thread, her behaviour has been so extreme I don’t believe this is all down to the split - I believe she has been difficult from day 1 and I’m genuinely surprised he stuck around 15 years.

WalkersAreNotTheOnlyCrisps · 09/11/2021 07:41

Agree wholeheartedly Glassofshloer.

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