Team Ioan Gruffudd or Alice Evans?

[BabyBearRus]

I've been following the story around the breakup of Ioan and Alice. I haven't been a great fan of Alice in the past, but I do feel for her and her children right now. Who else thinks that Ioan has behaved atrociously to his family? According to his wife, he has been having an affair for a long while, and making her feel as though she was in the wrong for months.

@StucklnAMuumuuCantGetOutOflt

'I think it was a deliberate post to get ahead of the press. Suspect he and his agent knew his new relationship would be reported soon so it was a way of announcing it, while trying to make it a new start as opposed to old/continuous fling.'

You're probably right about that actually, it does explain why he would post it. But the caption was a clear dig at his ex, if he'd been more sensitive to her, or even to their children, it would have had a different caption. Even just removing the word 'again' from 'thank you for making me smile again' is far less hurtful.

@Sundancerintherain

For gods sake can the slanging match between posters be moved so those of us actually wanting to follow the thread can.

Yes, it's pathetic. People having to get the last word instead of being grownups and just letting it go. Maybe there should be a subtopic for it .

@Anonanonanonanon88

Alice Evans had an affair with one of her VD/Originals co-stars.

Source please?

AE has removed a lot of messages from her Instagram account. Especially the one where she called Bianca a Slut!

Probably damage limitation prior to any tv appearances.

Surely no one is condoning this type of language.

I've clearly stepped into some alternate dimension without noticing...

There's a similar thread on AIBU and people there are discussing without personal insults and bunfighting, whereas here in Relationships, where I tend to come for more measured responses this thread has been chaotic and pretty unpleasant at times.

The world is topsy-turvy I tell 'ya!

You can tell she is really desperate for him to talk to her, I felt like looking at her IG and their body language, he is so much more attractive than her IMO and she seemed like a superfan that finally married her favourite star. Wouldnt surprise me if that is why his tactic is to cut all contact with her, she says by doing that it doesnt give her any closure. I suspect if he were to say Ok lets give it a go again she would be back quicker than you can imagine, regardless of how humiliating this whole ordeal has been.
Probably the goal behind the scorched earth tactic.

@MyDogLovesBiscuits do you have the link? I'd really like to jump threads!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/4147584-Alice-Evans-Ioan-Gruffudd

sorry it's actually in chat anyway here it is @DifferentHair

@MyDogLovesBiscuits thank you!

@LoekMa

You can tell she is really desperate for him to talk to her, I felt like looking at her IG and their body language, he is so much more attractive than her IMO and she seemed like a superfan that finally married her favourite star. Wouldnt surprise me if that is why his tactic is to cut all contact with her, she says by doing that it doesnt give her any closure. I suspect if he were to say Ok lets give it a go again she would be back quicker than you can imagine, regardless of how humiliating this whole ordeal has been. Probably the goal behind the scorched earth tactic.

I can’t imagine talking to her yields any results. I mean can anyone imagine her speaking reasonably civilly about child support & access etc without hysterics, ‘you’re still my husband’ etc?

Again, it IG was posting on MN, everyone would say ‘only contact her through your lawyers’.

Oh jeez. The whole thing is a mess. I loved Ioan so much, and I'm so disappointed in him. Reading Alice's tweets makes me sad. I feel terrible for her. I do agree that making comments about the OW isn't helpful - but it's obvious she's in a really bad place and no wonder, really. And poor Ella and Elsie. They don't deserve this.

I really don’t know how we can draw any conclusions about what has led to the decision to divorce or even who made it. Nor do any of us know any of the people in way that means we can comment on their character or mental health.

That a lot of people are selecting information from tabloids and social media to form opinions shows how baseless all this is. The projecting and speculating debases these opinions even further.

Leaving aside this couple, I do think people need to wake up to how their opinions are being formed by unscrupulous media and fake social media posts. They are literally tapping into your bias. Then letting your own bias do the rest.

All this talk of who does or doesn’t have empathy for one or other of them. If you are having empathy for you own construct of a person you don’t know then it is not empathy. It’s form of self identity and bias. If you can only find empathy with a certain type of person, then that is prejudice.

What’s so wrong with accepting that we don’t have a clue about what has happened or what has motivated it. And that like most people both of them will be suffering because of their relationship falling apart after 20 years albeit showing that in different ways.

Excellent post @LemonTT

I really don’t know how we can draw any conclusions about what has led to the decision to divorce or even who made it.

Well it’s pretty clear IG made it isn’t it? Given she’s said she will refuse to divorce him..?

Couldn't agree more @LemonTT

@Glassofshloer

I read somewhere that she also had an issue with him speaking Welsh to his family.

Alice wrote that herself in the Daily Mail story which has now disappeared. Something about him trying to hide things from her as usual by speaking to his family in Welsh. Not exactly that, but similar.

She's welsh herself isnt she?? so she'd surely catch words like marriage, money, house, over, finished.... 🤔

@Starseeking wow the DM piece is gone? He must have had his lawyers hit them to retract it.
Hope he is documenting all of this, also how much it is costing him

Apologies @LoekMa. I've just done a proper search (rather than my initial quick scan of the sidebar of shame!), and both stories are still online.

Article 1:
www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10142031/Alice-Evans-accuses-Ioan-Gruffard-saying-leave-gained-weight.html

Article 2:
www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10156377/Alice-Evans-details-hardships-stay-home-mum-fibromyalgia.html

Her comment section on IG is open again guess it was just too juicy to not have her hypemen/followers join in the trashing of her ExH new Partner.

My ex spun the whole I love you as the mother of my kids etc... I had watched him over 6 months getting close to my friend who at the time lived next door. He stopped picking me up from work or making my tea I literally felt like the third wheel in my own relationship. He had made redundant, she was on the sick following her relationship ending in October last year. I asked him to leave but begged him to come back within days, he wouldn’t talk about thing’s left me to tell his Mam. I knew in my gut there was something going on, they were constantly on what’s app at the same time, she suddenly went from not crossing the doors to going out with her ‘work friends’ she was very distant despite me supporting her hugely during her relationship ending.

I challenged my ex who made me out to be crazy for even imagining it. I ended up on medication, having counselling. Eventually 7 weeks after he left his google search came up on my phone hotels, Sunday lunches... After 2 hours he confessed he couldn’t bare to meet anyone new but said he had taken her out once which was a complete lie. I’m certain it was going on for months before he moved out. They are still seeing each other, last week she moved house with her children. I feel heartily sorry for them and mine as my teenager has really struggled.

I put a post on Facebook after she left, I was sick of looking like the crazy one as he had stuck to his one Sunday lunch story, even his Mother sided with the neighbour.

I’m happy I took to social media, as he had gaslighted me for so long and I almost had a breakdown having to live next door to her knowing she was still seeing him. I felt it was my closure to the whole nightmare.

@BruiserWoods

She's welsh herself isnt she?? so she'd surely catch words like marriage, money, house, over, finished.... 🤔

She's definitely not Welsh...

Not surprised his parents don't like her, she seems like a right piece of work.
It's not rude to speak to your family in the language they brought you up with, it's part of his heritage. I don't like either of the pair that much but can see why he's left, she seems very controlling.

I wish she would just stop dragging more people into it FFs.