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To be beginning to have a bad feeling about new boyfriend?

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Neverkins · 07/10/2021 15:34

I’m 3 months into a new relationship with a man I knew years ago. I always fancied him but he wasn’t into me. We lost touch after I went to uni, he stayed in our home town and got married. I contacted him over the years, mostly between my two long term relationships. He always seemed very focused on how attractive/slim I am ‘now’. He contacted me very very soon after his wife left him (I didn’t know at the time but it was 2/3 days). We met up, one thing led to another and we’ve been dating since. He told me he loved me very quickly and I reciprocated very enthusiastically. I felt head over heels and couldn’t believe he finally loved me.

I’m sure there are red flags in some of the backstory but I still mostly feel that I really am in love with him. There are some minor things bothering me though, mostly about money.

I work in a large firm I joined as a graduate. I’ve worked my way up the ladder and earn a very good salary in a part of the country with low cost of living. New guy was very nosy about my income from day 1, googling my job and firm to find out what I might earn. Asked lots of direct questions until I told him an approximate figure. He became belligerent and argumentative, told me that it wasn’t much money and he earns 10k more than me anyway. Now, I don’t particularly care what he earns as I can and do support myself, but the way he reacted was really odd. It seemed like he was trying to put me down/in my place and it was interesting that he volunteered no information about his own income until he knew mine and could compare. Also, I have some very good reasons to believe he doesn’t earn the money he claims he does.

He left his phone open with a WhatsApp conversation on the screen in which he was ‘bragging’ really grossly to a new friend of his about how much money I earn and that I’ve agreed to get him (this friend I’ve never met) a job in my firm. Needless to say I’d said no such thing and never would.

I make sure I pay for at least half of our dates and offer to pay for them all. We’ve enjoyed some very nice meals out and some lovely hotels so I’ve spent good money on him and vice versa. One morning we went to a cafe for breakfast and he disappeared off to the toilet after we’d both finished eating. He was taking a while and I felt awkward waiting for him in front of empty plates in a busy place so paid and found him outside smoking. He shouted at me for ‘embarrassing’ him by paying. This was a £15 bill when he’d been fine with my buying dinner and hotel rooms. 10 minutes later he apologised and said his outburst was because he isn’t used to women paying for things, that no woman has ever so much as bought him a drink before and he doesn’t know how to handle it.

He’s asked me a lot about what savings I have, and tells me he has great business ideas for me to invest in. Is very keen to bring this up in frequent conversations and talks about introducing me to business associates of his.

Despite supposedly earning more money than me, being 4 years older than me (40 years old), living in a very inexpensive part of the country and never moving out of our home town, has never owned property. Obviously there’s no problem with renting but it just doesn’t make sense for someone in his supposed position.

Within a week of meeting up he was talking very seriously about living together. Seemed very keen on me selling my home and us buying somewhere together. When I took it at face value and asked how we would structure it, what sort of price range we’d be considering, he fluffed around and gave me some noncommittal answer about how I should definitely buy it myself for my own legal protection. It seems like he just wants me to provide somewhere for him to live that’s convenient for him and to his taste. He’s living back with his parents as he generously (in his words) let his wife stay in their rented home.

We were at a local pub a couple of nights ago - just the two of us (and nobody we knew in there), and were taking it in turns to buy the drinks. It’s a very standard pub I’ve visited many times, where a glass of wine is around £5-6 and there’s nothing expensive by the glass. A pint of lager/ale and a glass of wine is always

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olivesnutsandcheeseplease · 08/10/2021 19:37

This isn't a few red flags, this a whole hillside of them blowing merrily in the breeze 🚩

OP you know what to do

midsomermurderess · 08/10/2021 19:39

And @olives, she has done it.

MojoJojo71 · 08/10/2021 19:40

He sounds vile.

I’d message him one more time to tell him you do not want to communicate any further and that if he contacts you again you will consider it harassment and contact the police

TheChip · 08/10/2021 19:41

I had to block my ds dad a couple of months ago.
I have a Samsung s10. Messing about in the text message settings I stumbled upon "block numbers and spam" when you click on it, there is a "blocked messages" thing. I clicked on it, and lots of awful messages from ds dad were there.

So, if you have an s10 or similar you could maybe ask a friend to text you after you've blocked them to see if you have the option to still see them.
That way, you can still know what is what, without having it forced in your face. It will be when you choose to look.

Still1nLove · 08/10/2021 19:41

Is there any way that you can return the flowers or get them sent to his mum’s?

QueenBee52 · 08/10/2021 19:43

just BLOCK already...

Nottogetapenny · 08/10/2021 19:44

I think you have handled it all perfectly! Don’t have any doubts! Their is no reason for you to have regrets, you really had no idea of what he was really like, until he showed his true colours! If you had known you wouldn’t of started a relationship.
Hope you are able to enjoy your true friends company and have the satisfaction in knowing you are well rid! 🍀

gamerchick · 08/10/2021 19:48

Re the flowers. Stick them on a neighbours doorstep. Be a nice thing for them and you don't have to think about themm

Just ignore him m you've asked him to leave you alone. He's ignoring that, you owe him nowt

Hattiehottie · 08/10/2021 19:49

Look at it this way, he thinks he can get you back with a cheap bunch of flowers and a hollow gesture. That's what you're dealing with. Hmm

Stay strong and put the flowers in the garden waste bin. Don't think of it as a waste but as your minor blip in the road being composted to enable new things to grow Grin

indecisivewoman81 · 08/10/2021 20:00

I think you know the answer deep down; don't you?

Don't let the flattery of this man suddenly liking you stop you from seeing him for what he is... a gold digger.

He doesn't have money. He may even be quite bad with money.

Stay independent at the very least. In all honesty you need to run!

Hattiehottie · 08/10/2021 20:04

Cancel the cheque Grin

hippychick10 · 08/10/2021 20:09

@rosegoldwatcher

I think I would not reply to him this evening. Let his question about the flowers go unanswered - you are not at home, you haven't seen them.
Yes this is spot on
Maskless · 08/10/2021 20:15

"New guy was very nosy about my income from day 1, googling my job and firm to find out what I might earn. Asked lots of direct questions until I told him an approximate figure."

You should have dumped him at this point.

This isn't about love and romance for him, is it? Surely you can see that by now.

You come across as far too trusting, far too naive.

If you don't get rid of this man you will be back on here within a year describing your cocklodger and asking how to extricate yourself.

Please, I am begging you, do not get involved with this man.

DukeofEarlGrey · 08/10/2021 20:16

Yep, grey rock now. Don’t engage, don’t acknowledge the flowers or bring them in. You are away and haven’t seen them. Your goal now is to conclude this relationship with minimum energy expenditure. The threat of police etc. will escalate things fast and I’m not sure you need to do that at this point; I’d keep it as a back pocket option.

hippychick10 · 08/10/2021 20:20

@Maskless

"New guy was very nosy about my income from day 1, googling my job and firm to find out what I might earn. Asked lots of direct questions until I told him an approximate figure."

You should have dumped him at this point.

This isn't about love and romance for him, is it? Surely you can see that by now.

You come across as far too trusting, far too naive.

If you don't get rid of this man you will be back on here within a year describing your cocklodger and asking how to extricate yourself.

Please, I am begging you, do not get involved with this man.

She has got rid of him?
Imdoingitnow · 08/10/2021 20:21

Had flowers too. I gave them the a local church. Like you I couldn't stand to have them In the house as they were so creepy and I kept thinking why are you sending these now? It's empty gestures.- emotional blackmail.

pompomsgalore · 08/10/2021 20:22

We are going to need a new thread OP.

Imdoingitnow · 08/10/2021 20:23

@Maskless for god sake read the thread!

midsomermurderess · 08/10/2021 20:27

@hippychick10, yes, she has finished with him.

Mulhollandmagoo · 08/10/2021 20:27

@SunshineCake1

Given he's sent you flowers I wouldn't send anything. If you do he'll know you've seen the flowers and therefore are at home.

I'd write free to a good home on a card and put it with the flowers out on the path tomorrow or Sunday.

This is a really good point!!! Just leave the flowers where they are or out them out front for someone to take if they want them
Awalkintime · 08/10/2021 20:32

@Maskless

"New guy was very nosy about my income from day 1, googling my job and firm to find out what I might earn. Asked lots of direct questions until I told him an approximate figure."

You should have dumped him at this point.

This isn't about love and romance for him, is it? Surely you can see that by now.

You come across as far too trusting, far too naive.

If you don't get rid of this man you will be back on here within a year describing your cocklodger and asking how to extricate yourself.

Please, I am begging you, do not get involved with this man.

She was groomed. Grooming is very complex and difficult to spot and also not her fault.
purplepoppet92 · 08/10/2021 20:43

I suspect he has gotten cashback abd stolen from you.

Do not tie yourself up with him financially.
Run hard. Run fast. Don't look back

Aspiringmatriarch · 08/10/2021 20:46

He's crossed the line into harassment by continuing to contact you. You'd be well within your rights to call the police - might be best to give him a short sharp shock at this point? I just feel uneasy about his willingness to disregard your boundaries.

Aspiringmatriarch · 08/10/2021 20:51

There is a great book called The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker which talks about trusting your instincts about people. One of the things to look out for is a man who won't accept no for an answer; who doesn't accept a woman's boundaries.

This ^

I'm sure you're safe OP but just be wary. His lack of respect for boundaries is very creepy and quite blatant.

greendiva · 08/10/2021 20:55

He sounds vile, absolutely horrible. So many red flags, get out!!!