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To be beginning to have a bad feeling about new boyfriend?

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Neverkins · 07/10/2021 15:34

I’m 3 months into a new relationship with a man I knew years ago. I always fancied him but he wasn’t into me. We lost touch after I went to uni, he stayed in our home town and got married. I contacted him over the years, mostly between my two long term relationships. He always seemed very focused on how attractive/slim I am ‘now’. He contacted me very very soon after his wife left him (I didn’t know at the time but it was 2/3 days). We met up, one thing led to another and we’ve been dating since. He told me he loved me very quickly and I reciprocated very enthusiastically. I felt head over heels and couldn’t believe he finally loved me.

I’m sure there are red flags in some of the backstory but I still mostly feel that I really am in love with him. There are some minor things bothering me though, mostly about money.

I work in a large firm I joined as a graduate. I’ve worked my way up the ladder and earn a very good salary in a part of the country with low cost of living. New guy was very nosy about my income from day 1, googling my job and firm to find out what I might earn. Asked lots of direct questions until I told him an approximate figure. He became belligerent and argumentative, told me that it wasn’t much money and he earns 10k more than me anyway. Now, I don’t particularly care what he earns as I can and do support myself, but the way he reacted was really odd. It seemed like he was trying to put me down/in my place and it was interesting that he volunteered no information about his own income until he knew mine and could compare. Also, I have some very good reasons to believe he doesn’t earn the money he claims he does.

He left his phone open with a WhatsApp conversation on the screen in which he was ‘bragging’ really grossly to a new friend of his about how much money I earn and that I’ve agreed to get him (this friend I’ve never met) a job in my firm. Needless to say I’d said no such thing and never would.

I make sure I pay for at least half of our dates and offer to pay for them all. We’ve enjoyed some very nice meals out and some lovely hotels so I’ve spent good money on him and vice versa. One morning we went to a cafe for breakfast and he disappeared off to the toilet after we’d both finished eating. He was taking a while and I felt awkward waiting for him in front of empty plates in a busy place so paid and found him outside smoking. He shouted at me for ‘embarrassing’ him by paying. This was a £15 bill when he’d been fine with my buying dinner and hotel rooms. 10 minutes later he apologised and said his outburst was because he isn’t used to women paying for things, that no woman has ever so much as bought him a drink before and he doesn’t know how to handle it.

He’s asked me a lot about what savings I have, and tells me he has great business ideas for me to invest in. Is very keen to bring this up in frequent conversations and talks about introducing me to business associates of his.

Despite supposedly earning more money than me, being 4 years older than me (40 years old), living in a very inexpensive part of the country and never moving out of our home town, has never owned property. Obviously there’s no problem with renting but it just doesn’t make sense for someone in his supposed position.

Within a week of meeting up he was talking very seriously about living together. Seemed very keen on me selling my home and us buying somewhere together. When I took it at face value and asked how we would structure it, what sort of price range we’d be considering, he fluffed around and gave me some noncommittal answer about how I should definitely buy it myself for my own legal protection. It seems like he just wants me to provide somewhere for him to live that’s convenient for him and to his taste. He’s living back with his parents as he generously (in his words) let his wife stay in their rented home.

We were at a local pub a couple of nights ago - just the two of us (and nobody we knew in there), and were taking it in turns to buy the drinks. It’s a very standard pub I’ve visited many times, where a glass of wine is around £5-6 and there’s nothing expensive by the glass. A pint of lager/ale and a glass of wine is always

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INeedToBuyaZoo · 08/10/2021 16:05

It's ok you know to have made a bad judgement in dating someone, especially if he love bombed you. My earlier comment about you being unreasonable was based on the fact that you clearly could see the red flags now and I wanted you to protect yourself.

I'm glad you've ended it, I've never seen so many red flags!

393847593478resu · 08/10/2021 16:25

I haven't got time to read more than the OPs posts, but if he is persistent, perhaps it could be good if he could somehow get the idea that your financial security might not be quite as good as he's assuming? A hint about unexpected expenses or previously unknown debt? It may be impossible if he's already wormed all the details of your finances out of you and knows you have plenty of savings, but becoming unattractive to him financially might take the pressure off.

VickyEadieofThigh · 08/10/2021 16:33

@Neverkins

I've read the whole thread and I just wanted to say how incredibly impressed I am with how you've handled this.

Never doubt yourself - you're a strong and extremely competent woman.

HebalGerbil · 08/10/2021 16:42

You really should be feeling like a total smarty pants because you recognised him for what he is. So many unfortunate women don't see it until it's very late in the day.

You picked up the warning signs early and acted on it, which is admirable.

Maybe, look at it this way, you have exorcised the ghost of past passion for this horrible man, or should I say, what you thought he was. Once you have had a little time, you will be free to focus either on yourself or finding someone who actually deserves the great person that you are.

Best of luck to you.

forrestgreen · 08/10/2021 16:42

I know you've told your mum you've split up but please send a further text to say he's being persistent and that you are going to call the police if her turns up and won't leave, this will show her she should do the same if he goes there and is a nuisance.
Have a relaxing night (and turn your phone off, preferably after locking him!)

SelfPortraitWithEels · 08/10/2021 16:48

I've read the whole thread and I just wanted to say how incredibly impressed I am with how you've handled this. This.

Or indeed this: you really should be feeling like a total smarty pants. Grin

Late to the thread but so pleased you're acting in such a sane and clear-sighted way. Well done and good luck.

Franticbutterfly · 08/10/2021 16:49

I think you already know what to do here. People don't usually get better as relationships progress.

ChargingBuck · 08/10/2021 16:51

@393847593478resu

I haven't got time to read more than the OPs posts, but if he is persistent, perhaps it could be good if he could somehow get the idea that your financial security might not be quite as good as he's assuming? A hint about unexpected expenses or previously unknown debt? It may be impossible if he's already wormed all the details of your finances out of you and knows you have plenty of savings, but becoming unattractive to him financially might take the pressure off.
No need for any of that. OP can simply block him.

She's already told him to stop contacting her.
Any further harassment, & she'll be able to ask the police to tell him to stop contacting her. And they will do so.

RainyDay2020 · 08/10/2021 16:52

Wow rude @vajingleberry
I wrote that response ages ago but it took ages to upload due to crap internet connection earlier at the time there weren’t so many posts. I had read the posts that were available at the time where OP had only posted twice.
No need to be bitchy.

Opalfeet · 08/10/2021 16:54

You know the answer to this...why are you asking?

Eddielzzard · 08/10/2021 16:55

why don't you read the thread?

2018SoFarSoGreat · 08/10/2021 16:55

@Neverkins you should feel really proud of yourself. No cringing. It is over and done and dusted. Well done - you handled all of this so well!

Cocomarine · 08/10/2021 16:55

@Opalfeet

You know the answer to this...why are you asking?
Thank you for your insight on page 36.
RainyDay2020 · 08/10/2021 16:57

@Imdoingitnow
There were only a couple of posts from the OP when I posted my response - due to crap internet connection earlier my response took ages to upload and of course there have been many updates since which I hadn’t seen. I apologise OP.

Butterflyfluff · 08/10/2021 16:57

@RainyDay2020

Wow rude *@vajingleberry* I wrote that response ages ago but it took ages to upload due to crap internet connection earlier at the time there weren’t so many posts. I had read the posts that were available at the time where OP had only posted twice. No need to be bitchy.
The OP had posted twice, 23 hours before your post

That’s some slow connection

RainyDay2020 · 08/10/2021 16:58

@midsomermurderess
There were only a couple of posts from the OP when I posted my response - due to crap internet connection earlier my response took ages to upload and of course there have been many updates since which I hadn’t seen. I apologise OP.

notapizzaeater · 08/10/2021 17:01

He sounds like a desperate man tbh, this makes him dangerous, take care.

Missusblusky1 · 08/10/2021 17:14

Hi op, have you heard anymore from him? How are you?

spookybitches · 08/10/2021 17:20

He doesn't love you. He wants you to provide him with a home and he's testing the waters by talking about you being an investor in business to see how easy you are to steal from. And yes, he sounds like he's going to be a tough one to get rid of, he is onto a good'un!

vajingleberry · 08/10/2021 17:21

Sigh, I just knew that there would be some sort of "internet problem".

itsallgoingpearshaped · 08/10/2021 17:33

Block him.

and if he goes around that, contact the police and ask them to have a word. It's considered harassment/stalking if it keeps up.

IrishMel · 08/10/2021 17:36

Hi again OP I just read your update about the photos and all the advise on here from is so helpful and so good and please listen to it. Usually with men like this it is about the power and control over you. Now you are backing away he will become maybe obsessive. I would definitely talk to someone about this so they know what is going on. Talk to your friends as they will be supportive and understanding and will help you through this. Just text that guy and say it's over. You do not need to go into any other detail and do not answer his texts then as it will be a game of back and fort and him trying to persuade you. I would also find out did he take cashback from that pub. Listen to the advise on here as it is good. It is not a loving relationship if he just wants power over your body to take photos and pose you like a porn star. Please leave this man.

Lo9567 · 08/10/2021 17:38

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RainyDay2020 · 08/10/2021 17:49

@vajingleberry
You can sigh as much as you want.
I do diligently read all the posts that I can see before posting. Earlier on I was out, had crap internet. Now I’m home with fast WiFi and can see the many updates.

PrimoPiatti · 08/10/2021 17:51

Run.

Very.

Fast.