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To be beginning to have a bad feeling about new boyfriend?

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Neverkins · 07/10/2021 15:34

I’m 3 months into a new relationship with a man I knew years ago. I always fancied him but he wasn’t into me. We lost touch after I went to uni, he stayed in our home town and got married. I contacted him over the years, mostly between my two long term relationships. He always seemed very focused on how attractive/slim I am ‘now’. He contacted me very very soon after his wife left him (I didn’t know at the time but it was 2/3 days). We met up, one thing led to another and we’ve been dating since. He told me he loved me very quickly and I reciprocated very enthusiastically. I felt head over heels and couldn’t believe he finally loved me.

I’m sure there are red flags in some of the backstory but I still mostly feel that I really am in love with him. There are some minor things bothering me though, mostly about money.

I work in a large firm I joined as a graduate. I’ve worked my way up the ladder and earn a very good salary in a part of the country with low cost of living. New guy was very nosy about my income from day 1, googling my job and firm to find out what I might earn. Asked lots of direct questions until I told him an approximate figure. He became belligerent and argumentative, told me that it wasn’t much money and he earns 10k more than me anyway. Now, I don’t particularly care what he earns as I can and do support myself, but the way he reacted was really odd. It seemed like he was trying to put me down/in my place and it was interesting that he volunteered no information about his own income until he knew mine and could compare. Also, I have some very good reasons to believe he doesn’t earn the money he claims he does.

He left his phone open with a WhatsApp conversation on the screen in which he was ‘bragging’ really grossly to a new friend of his about how much money I earn and that I’ve agreed to get him (this friend I’ve never met) a job in my firm. Needless to say I’d said no such thing and never would.

I make sure I pay for at least half of our dates and offer to pay for them all. We’ve enjoyed some very nice meals out and some lovely hotels so I’ve spent good money on him and vice versa. One morning we went to a cafe for breakfast and he disappeared off to the toilet after we’d both finished eating. He was taking a while and I felt awkward waiting for him in front of empty plates in a busy place so paid and found him outside smoking. He shouted at me for ‘embarrassing’ him by paying. This was a £15 bill when he’d been fine with my buying dinner and hotel rooms. 10 minutes later he apologised and said his outburst was because he isn’t used to women paying for things, that no woman has ever so much as bought him a drink before and he doesn’t know how to handle it.

He’s asked me a lot about what savings I have, and tells me he has great business ideas for me to invest in. Is very keen to bring this up in frequent conversations and talks about introducing me to business associates of his.

Despite supposedly earning more money than me, being 4 years older than me (40 years old), living in a very inexpensive part of the country and never moving out of our home town, has never owned property. Obviously there’s no problem with renting but it just doesn’t make sense for someone in his supposed position.

Within a week of meeting up he was talking very seriously about living together. Seemed very keen on me selling my home and us buying somewhere together. When I took it at face value and asked how we would structure it, what sort of price range we’d be considering, he fluffed around and gave me some noncommittal answer about how I should definitely buy it myself for my own legal protection. It seems like he just wants me to provide somewhere for him to live that’s convenient for him and to his taste. He’s living back with his parents as he generously (in his words) let his wife stay in their rented home.

We were at a local pub a couple of nights ago - just the two of us (and nobody we knew in there), and were taking it in turns to buy the drinks. It’s a very standard pub I’ve visited many times, where a glass of wine is around £5-6 and there’s nothing expensive by the glass. A pint of lager/ale and a glass of wine is always

OP posts:
Bounce55 · 08/10/2021 19:00

Actually thinking about it don't reply to him
(I was wrong to suggest it)

TheChip · 08/10/2021 19:01

Yes, I also take back my advice to text him. You have already told him not to contact you. You don't need to say it again.

Salome61 · 08/10/2021 19:03

So sorry, he just isn't the person you need him to be.

I was in a relationship where I seemed to be paying out more and more and was starting to feel uncomfortable. One day he stood in front of my kitchen notice board looking at a picture of a backpack my son had torn out of a catalogue and he said 'I know what you can get me'. I realised I had bought him many things because he had hinted heavily, but he had never asked outright before, no pretence this time. Dumped and ran, luckily with some savings left.

DoubleTweenQueen · 08/10/2021 19:03

@Neverkins Please don’t message him again. There is no need. You’ve made yourself clear.

Rainydaypuddles · 08/10/2021 19:05

No, don’t acknowledge the flowers or the messages. Just leave it. You’ve been clear and he has chosen to ignore you. He’s done it because he thinks it will make you get in touch with him. So by texting him he has succeeded.

Enjoy your night with your friend OP Flowers

lazylinguist · 08/10/2021 19:09

Ignore. Every time you message/reply to him, that gives him an excuse (in his mind) to respond.

It's clear to me that you're resolved it's over, and that you wouldn't be messaging him to leave you alone 'just one last time' in order to have a reason to keep messaging him, but some women would do this and he might think you are 'playing hard to get' in order to make him try harder to get you back! Best grey rock him.

Ellie56 · 08/10/2021 19:09

He's not going to give up easily. You are his cash machine.

Don't text him. Ignore him and block him.

Give the flowers to a neighbour, the church or some other worthy cause. (Hospitals won't take flowers.)

KirstenBlest · 08/10/2021 19:10

Block his number. Block him on your email and social media.
Do not contact him.

GetKnitted · 08/10/2021 19:11

YANBU, obviously!

I just wanted to say that it seems likely to me that you bought both rounds of drinks that night. When it was his turn he put the drinks on a tab and when it was your turn, you got all the drinks for him.

In any case he is either lying about his earnings, or he is spending his money problematically and either way it isn't good for you.

Charley50 · 08/10/2021 19:13

Good idea to leave the flowers outside. I'd just ignore. I don't think you need to message him anything. Or that you need to involve the cops now. But if he comes to the outside of your house and won't go away, then I'd call the police.

IfImLyingImDying · 08/10/2021 19:13

No no, don’t text him. You’ve made yourself clear already, any more will muddy the waters. Just ignore ignore ignore.

Charley50 · 08/10/2021 19:14

But if there's any chance he could have got a set of keys, I'd change the locks.

Polkadots2021 · 08/10/2021 19:16

[quote Neverkins]I’m 3 months into a new relationship with a man I knew years ago. I always fancied him but he wasn’t into me. We lost touch after I went to uni, he stayed in our home town and got married. I contacted him over the years, mostly between my two long term relationships. He always seemed very focused on how attractive/slim I am ‘now’. He contacted me very very soon after his wife left him (I didn’t know at the time but it was 2/3 days). We met up, one thing led to another and we’ve been dating since. He told me he loved me very quickly and I reciprocated very enthusiastically. I felt head over heels and couldn’t believe he finally loved me.

I’m sure there are red flags in some of the backstory but I still mostly feel that I really am in love with him. There are some minor things bothering me though, mostly about money.

I work in a large firm I joined as a graduate. I’ve worked my way up the ladder and earn a very good salary in a part of the country with low cost of living. New guy was very nosy about my income from day 1, googling my job and firm to find out what I might earn. Asked lots of direct questions until I told him an approximate figure. He became belligerent and argumentative, told me that it wasn’t much money and he earns 10k more than me anyway. Now, I don’t particularly care what he earns as I can and do support myself, but the way he reacted was really odd. It seemed like he was trying to put me down/in my place and it was interesting that he volunteered no information about his own income until he knew mine and could compare. Also, I have some very good reasons to believe he doesn’t earn the money he claims he does.

He left his phone open with a WhatsApp conversation on the screen in which he was ‘bragging’ really grossly to a new friend of his about how much money I earn and that I’ve agreed to get him (this friend I’ve never met) a job in my firm. Needless to say I’d said no such thing and never would.

I make sure I pay for at least half of our dates and offer to pay for them all. We’ve enjoyed some very nice meals out and some lovely hotels so I’ve spent good money on him and vice versa. One morning we went to a cafe for breakfast and he disappeared off to the toilet after we’d both finished eating. He was taking a while and I felt awkward waiting for him in front of empty plates in a busy place so paid and found him outside smoking. He shouted at me for ‘embarrassing’ him by paying. This was a £15 bill when he’d been fine with my buying dinner and hotel rooms. 10 minutes later he apologised and said his outburst was because he isn’t used to women paying for things, that no woman has ever so much as bought him a drink before and he doesn’t know how to handle it.

He’s asked me a lot about what savings I have, and tells me he has great business ideas for me to invest in. Is very keen to bring this up in frequent conversations and talks about introducing me to business associates of his.

Despite supposedly earning more money than me, being 4 years older than me (40 years old), living in a very inexpensive part of the country and never moving out of our home town, has never owned property. Obviously there’s no problem with renting but it just doesn’t make sense for someone in his supposed position.

Within a week of meeting up he was talking very seriously about living together. Seemed very keen on me selling my home and us buying somewhere together. When I took it at face value and asked how we would structure it, what sort of price range we’d be considering, he fluffed around and gave me some noncommittal answer about how I should definitely buy it myself for my own legal protection. It seems like he just wants me to provide somewhere for him to live that’s convenient for him and to his taste. He’s living back with his parents as he generously (in his words) let his wife stay in their rented home.

We were at a local pub a couple of nights ago - just the two of us (and nobody we knew in there), and were taking it in turns to buy the drinks. It’s a very standard pub I’ve visited many times, where a glass of wine is around £5-6 and there’s nothing expensive by the glass. A pint of lager/ale and a glass of wine is always

CecilyP · 08/10/2021 19:21

I think I would not reply to him this evening. Let his question about the flowers go unanswered - you are not at home, you haven't seen them.

Agree with this.You said you’d be away, so I wouldn’t let him know that’s not true.

Pipsquiggle · 08/10/2021 19:22

Do not contact him, any acknowledgement will encourage him.

rosegoldwatcher · 08/10/2021 19:22

@Polkadots2021 - the thread has advanced somewhat over the past 24 hours.
The OP has ended the relationship!!!

FeeLock · 08/10/2021 19:23

@Neverkins
This latest is part of the coercion; please don't respond. Personally, I'd donate them to a neighbour or a hospital or church, just to take assertive action in getting rid of him. All the while they're there it would feel like a 'tick, tick, tick' - thinking about him instead of getting on with my own life.

If he does anything else - anything at all - I suggest you contact the police. If he runs out of energy in the next day, all well and good; if not, it's an escalation and you're entitled to make a complaint to the police. You have no idea whether he's a lonely weirdo or a sex offender and you might want to err on the side of caution.

JML001 · 08/10/2021 19:23

You're doing all the right things OP. So nice to have the support of your friend. Hope you have a good weekend with her and this guys gets the message soon. Keep strong!

NorthernBirdAtHeart · 08/10/2021 19:28

No don’t text him, that’s exactly why he sent you the flowers, to keep communication open, to needle you emotionally until you give in.
Leave the flowers outside, block the bastard.

Glad to read you’re going to stay with your friend tonight, stay strong OP!

Polkadots2021 · 08/10/2021 19:29

@IdblowJonSnow

Re the photos - could you have one more date with him, get his phone and delete them? Or if u xant access his phone could you take it and let him think he's lost it somehow?

Otherwise he may try to blackmail you as others have said?

Ditch him asap.

Flowers

This is a good idea if you find yourself seeing him again, other than that run for the hills, I only just read the creepy undress and photo thing, omg. I think he's impotent btw. And also, you get to dump the guy who you felt as if you chased after your whole life, apart from anything else that'll make you feel empowered. If he so much as mentions the photos go to the police. And don't feel any shame, the shame is all on him.
Polkadots2021 · 08/10/2021 19:30

[quote rosegoldwatcher]@Polkadots2021 - the thread has advanced somewhat over the past 24 hours.
The OP has ended the relationship!!![/quote]
Oh god sorry!

FluffyTeddyBear · 08/10/2021 19:31

I would message him again, to say you have requested no further contact, he is breaching your boundaries and you are now blocking him. Tell him I fb he comes to your house or attempts any further contact you will report it to the police because you can’t have been clearer.

Then please do block him and follow through if you need to.

I understand what he’s doing. My ex did the same. He turned up at my house with Rose’s and my favourite dinner, along with an overnight bag in the hope i would have changed my mind. Made me a scrap book, bought me a diamond ring.

The difference OP, is he was 21 years old. He was a child. Your ex is a grown man and he needs to act like it.

FatAnneTheDealer · 08/10/2021 19:32

You were right when you said he would be difficult to dump.

Your previous texts were clear. You will make it much less clear if you text him again. Please don’t do that!

(But I don’t agree with the folks who say block him. I think it is important for your own peace of mind to know what he is up to - in terms of messaging - if you block you won’t know. Just set your phone so he can’t tell if messages are read and then read them, of course, but totally ignore.

Good call on leaving the flowers outside,

Keep safe! Flowers with no threats or strings!

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 08/10/2021 19:34

Don't respond. Leave the flowers where they are and ignore him.

There is a great book called The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker which talks about trusting your instincts about people. One of the things to look out for is a man who won't accept no for an answer; who doesn't accept a woman's boundaries. If you respond you are opening up the channel for him to try to negotiate.

Spottybluepyjamas · 08/10/2021 19:35

Don't contact him to say anything about the flowers - either positive or negative. He's deliberately done it to keep the lines of communication open. Keep them closed! You've said all that needs to be said.