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To be beginning to have a bad feeling about new boyfriend?

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Neverkins · 07/10/2021 15:34

I’m 3 months into a new relationship with a man I knew years ago. I always fancied him but he wasn’t into me. We lost touch after I went to uni, he stayed in our home town and got married. I contacted him over the years, mostly between my two long term relationships. He always seemed very focused on how attractive/slim I am ‘now’. He contacted me very very soon after his wife left him (I didn’t know at the time but it was 2/3 days). We met up, one thing led to another and we’ve been dating since. He told me he loved me very quickly and I reciprocated very enthusiastically. I felt head over heels and couldn’t believe he finally loved me.

I’m sure there are red flags in some of the backstory but I still mostly feel that I really am in love with him. There are some minor things bothering me though, mostly about money.

I work in a large firm I joined as a graduate. I’ve worked my way up the ladder and earn a very good salary in a part of the country with low cost of living. New guy was very nosy about my income from day 1, googling my job and firm to find out what I might earn. Asked lots of direct questions until I told him an approximate figure. He became belligerent and argumentative, told me that it wasn’t much money and he earns 10k more than me anyway. Now, I don’t particularly care what he earns as I can and do support myself, but the way he reacted was really odd. It seemed like he was trying to put me down/in my place and it was interesting that he volunteered no information about his own income until he knew mine and could compare. Also, I have some very good reasons to believe he doesn’t earn the money he claims he does.

He left his phone open with a WhatsApp conversation on the screen in which he was ‘bragging’ really grossly to a new friend of his about how much money I earn and that I’ve agreed to get him (this friend I’ve never met) a job in my firm. Needless to say I’d said no such thing and never would.

I make sure I pay for at least half of our dates and offer to pay for them all. We’ve enjoyed some very nice meals out and some lovely hotels so I’ve spent good money on him and vice versa. One morning we went to a cafe for breakfast and he disappeared off to the toilet after we’d both finished eating. He was taking a while and I felt awkward waiting for him in front of empty plates in a busy place so paid and found him outside smoking. He shouted at me for ‘embarrassing’ him by paying. This was a £15 bill when he’d been fine with my buying dinner and hotel rooms. 10 minutes later he apologised and said his outburst was because he isn’t used to women paying for things, that no woman has ever so much as bought him a drink before and he doesn’t know how to handle it.

He’s asked me a lot about what savings I have, and tells me he has great business ideas for me to invest in. Is very keen to bring this up in frequent conversations and talks about introducing me to business associates of his.

Despite supposedly earning more money than me, being 4 years older than me (40 years old), living in a very inexpensive part of the country and never moving out of our home town, has never owned property. Obviously there’s no problem with renting but it just doesn’t make sense for someone in his supposed position.

Within a week of meeting up he was talking very seriously about living together. Seemed very keen on me selling my home and us buying somewhere together. When I took it at face value and asked how we would structure it, what sort of price range we’d be considering, he fluffed around and gave me some noncommittal answer about how I should definitely buy it myself for my own legal protection. It seems like he just wants me to provide somewhere for him to live that’s convenient for him and to his taste. He’s living back with his parents as he generously (in his words) let his wife stay in their rented home.

We were at a local pub a couple of nights ago - just the two of us (and nobody we knew in there), and were taking it in turns to buy the drinks. It’s a very standard pub I’ve visited many times, where a glass of wine is around £5-6 and there’s nothing expensive by the glass. A pint of lager/ale and a glass of wine is always

OP posts:
Bounce55 · 08/10/2021 17:52

@vajingleberry

There are so many red flags here I don’t know where to start!

@RainyDay2020 You could start by actually reading the thread, or if you are just soooo important and busy you could just read the OPs posts.

Did you not think that 800plus posts later things might have moved on?

🤣🤣👏👏👏
IveGotASongThatllGetOnYNerves · 08/10/2021 17:57

If he carries on you may need to be blunt and say pack it in. You aren't getting my money or your feet under my table. Leave me alone.

Burnerphone21 · 08/10/2021 18:04

Yikes what a psycho!!

Hope you are ok op and bloody well done you x

Cissyandflora · 08/10/2021 18:07

Get the heck away. Quickly.

Blossomtoes · 08/10/2021 18:09

This is what a strong woman looks like. You’re an inspiration @Neverkins.

RainyDay2020 · 08/10/2021 18:18

@Bounce55
I already apologised and explained that when I posted I could only see 2 posts from the OP so was just replying to story so far as I understood it.
Due to crap internet signal my message obviously took ages to upload cue people being nasty and taking the piss! I give up.

Neverkins · 08/10/2021 18:36

He’s sent me flowers (they were in my front porch when I came home from work). I’m pretty sure they were delivered by the florist and not him, fortunately. He’s messaged asking if I like them but that’s it for the last few hours. The temptation to ask if he spent that missing £20 on them is almost overwhelming, but I’m going to stay silent. I’ve left them in the porch for now, as throwing them away seems aggressive and wasteful, but I don’t want them in my house. I was also thinking that if he were to come over tonight he’ll hopefully be more convinced that I’m not home.

I know several of you have recommended that I contact the police about the contact, and even the photo situation, but if I’m honest it doesn’t feel necessary yet. If he appears at my house or threatens me or himself I will definitely do so, but rightly or wrongly I just want to avoid as much drama as possible for now. Even if I would be completely justified in reporting him it would feel a bit like poking the bear.

What I want to do is send him one more message reiterating that I don’t want to speak to him, he’s not to come to my house (or parents’), that it’s harassment if he continues like this, and that I will call the police. Is that a bad idea? I know in theory that I’ve been clear so far, and that he should already understand he’s on dodgy legal ground, but perhaps an explicit mention of harassment or the police would be enough to make him rethink things? I’m probably starting to sound a bit timid, but I’m ok and I’m not frightened at the moment - just a very private person who’d like to avoid making a fuss unless necessary.

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Howshouldibehave · 08/10/2021 18:39

Sounds like he’d reckoned on you being his cash point for the next few years-he isn’t going to let you off the hook lightly.

Look after yourself.

Notaroadrunner · 08/10/2021 18:40

Just block him and give the flowers to a neighbour/local church.

TheChip · 08/10/2021 18:41

Yes. Text him one last time telling him that you want no contact and you will view any further attempts at communication as harassment and will be left with no choice but to contact the police.
No conversations, no response to anything he has said. Just that you don't want contact, any further and it's harassment blah blah.

Then, if he texts 2 times or more it's classed as harassment and you need to contact the police before it escalates even further.

CoraPirbright · 08/10/2021 18:41

Oh crumbs - he isnt going to give up easily, is he? He sees his golden ticket slipping away.

It would be very interesting to know why his wife gave him the heave ho (the real story, I mean, and the reason why all their joint friends backed her not him).

I wouldn’t threaten police/harrassment yet. Keep that as the nuclear option. Just reply saying “I was clear that I did not want to have any further contact and the flowers were not welcome. I will be donating them to the local hospital. Do not contact me again.”

Staryflight445 · 08/10/2021 18:42

Reiterate that you don’t want to hear from him again, he’s not to turn up at either house and you’re going to block him now. I would tell him if he continues to contact you he’ll be reported to the police for harassment.

Good luck op. What a lucky escape hey.

rosegoldwatcher · 08/10/2021 18:43

I think I would not reply to him this evening. Let his question about the flowers go unanswered - you are not at home, you haven't seen them.

Blossomtoes · 08/10/2021 18:43

@Notaroadrunner

Just block him and give the flowers to a neighbour/local church.
This. Radio silence. If you reply you’re just feeding the beast.
Embracelife · 08/10/2021 18:44

Love bombing with flowers
Then the pleading
Then suicide threats
Then anger and threats to publish those photos

Report to police now

noottersontheflightdeck · 08/10/2021 18:44

Don't send him another message - you've already made yourself clear, so any further engagement is just rewarding his creepy stalker love-bombing attempts to get you to talk to him. Plus, if you mention police he might get offended and aggressive. He sounds like someone whose pride is important to him, so he won't like feeling he gave in to your 'threat'. Good luck.

noottersontheflightdeck · 08/10/2021 18:45

I know it's tempting to make him see reason, but he's never going to accept a version of the facts that paints him as the bad guy

Hattiehottie · 08/10/2021 18:46

I think just grey rock him now. Any texts will be him getting a response which is what he wants.

Leave the flowers on the doorstep and if they are there when you get back from your friend the give them to a neighbour or bin them.

I wouldn't engage further. Don't give him the oxygen he is looking for.

SunshineCake1 · 08/10/2021 18:47

Given he's sent you flowers I wouldn't send anything. If you do he'll know you've seen the flowers and therefore are at home.

I'd write free to a good home on a card and put it with the flowers out on the path tomorrow or Sunday.

Bounce55 · 08/10/2021 18:48

Maybe send him this?

Do not send me any more gifts
Do not message me anymore
If you continue to do either of the above
I will not hesitate calling the Police to report you for harrassment
Leave me alone

TheChip · 08/10/2021 18:50

Could you use clares law on him? I dont know how easy it is, but it might give you a glimpse into what his ex went through and help you know which way is the best approach

JudgementalCactus · 08/10/2021 18:53

I agree that sending any text would be a be seen as a "win" by him. Don't reward him with a reaction. The sooner he figures he can't persuade you to talk to him, the sooner he'll be gone for good.

headintheproverbial · 08/10/2021 18:53

No! Stop texting him. You've been abundantly clear. Stop engaging as you'll just encourage him again.

HollyGoLoudly1 · 08/10/2021 18:56

Please do not message him again - it's just rewarding him with attention and will encourage him to try something else next. Ignore, ignore, ignore and ignore some more!

Burnerphone21 · 08/10/2021 18:59

Don't invite contact. Best advice I've been given about this kind of thing x

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