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The phone..

175 replies

trickmetwice · 08/09/2021 14:00

I got some great advice yesterday then admin removed the thread! I actually didn't screen shot the information I needed so I'd like anyone with good tech skills to message me. I found a phone, I won't go into details in case the same person comes back to bash me again. I need to see what's on the phone. Last active Monday am and been in use since Feb 2021 (friend has found out that part) I'm pretty certain and have that guy sinking feeling but I need evidence for my own mental state! Don't bash me, all I want is tips/tricks to get into this phone. It's locked and I don't know the password. Was on airplane mode but isn't now, no notifications have come through. H is panicking about it for sure.. not that I care! He's done stuff before so has a history of being a very cleaver cheating B

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caughtinanet · 08/09/2021 18:24

I didn't see the previous thread, what type of phone is it?

I thought shops advertising unlocking meant unlocking from a network not removing the passcode

If the US government can't get into a terrorist's iPhone I can't see how anyone else can

I have an android phone and afaik there is no way round the PIN without restoring the phone to factory settings which obviously defeats your purpose

OmgIcantbelieveshedidit · 08/09/2021 18:27

You can not get into an iPhone period. Mine needs my fingerprint and a passcode

AhNowTed · 08/09/2021 18:35

I'd love to see his face, the barely disguised panic looking for it.

I hope you get some answers, but if nothing else id be relishing sitting on that phone.

As for yesterday's GDPR police 🙄

Suzi888 · 08/09/2021 18:41

Don’t you need the IMEI number and know which network your on? iPhones are pretty impenetrable. What about those phone unlocker shops?

pinkyredrose · 08/09/2021 18:43

Why do you need to see what's on it? You already know he's a cheater . Why not direct your energy to getting him out of your life?

layladomino · 08/09/2021 18:49

Could you tell him that you've found his phone and you're finished? You don't have to tell him you can't access the contents. He won't know what / how much you've seen.

Of course that will only work if you are 100% certain it's his phone and there will be incrimiating stuff on it.

SuperstoreFan · 08/09/2021 18:52

So you have stolen your husband's company phone OP?

Emmelina · 08/09/2021 18:52

Phone unlock shops won’t be able to get you in, the unlock is just to open it up to other networks SIM cards.
The disguised panic must be fun to watch! No other suggestions on how to get in, but I think his behaviour speaks volumes TBH.

SuperstoreFan · 08/09/2021 18:54

To be fair if my company phone vanished I'd be panicking too.

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OmgIcantbelieveshedidit · 08/09/2021 18:58

They can delete and restore factory settings but not access material - can you try plugging into his pc ? But I doubt it.

SecretWitch · 08/09/2021 19:00

I’m sorry you are experiencing this, op. Can I ask why you stay with a partner you don’t trust? What happens if/when you find information that confirms your suspicion?

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caughtinanet · 08/09/2021 19:11

@SuperstoreFan

So you have stolen your husband's company phone OP?
Was it in the previous thread that it's a company phone?

Why wouldn't he ask the OP if she'd seen it, it doesn't make sense that he wouldn't ask.

DoylyCarte · 08/09/2021 19:14

To the pp re company phone - op stated last night that it’s a company they both own and so if it is indeed a company phone and not an affair phone then a. She has a right to know either way if it’s a company property/asset and b. if it’s an innocent work phone then presumably he would ask if she’s seen it rather than clamming up.
The thread got removed due to derailing and extreme, borderline aggressive, incessant pedantry of one poster around this so let’s not reignite that train.

I hope you can get some answers op although imo his behaviour will tell you/already told you everything you need to know.

If all else fails and you can’t access it but still want confirmation, you could just front it out with him and say that you know about and have the phone unlocked and is there anything he wants to tell you as you already know. I remember he has form for having second affair phone, so really your suspicions are based on his own grim precedent.

Would it be enough to know it isn’t a work phone or do you need to see more details/evidence? You might struggle with the latter unless he confesses so you could just try and wangle the truth using the phone as a negotiation tool if you can’t get access.

If it was a work phone and he knows you were looking for the keys in the office then any normal innocent person would say “did you see the iPhone yesterday when getting the keys?” Not radio silence.

GinFlowersWine

Jerseygirl12 · 08/09/2021 19:18

I think there’s a list on the internet of the top
10 passcodes people use so you could try all 10.

ThisIsTrifficult · 08/09/2021 19:23

Depends on make/model and if android/apple the version OS running.

Some earlier ones are possible to bypass but the later ones not.

If you can drag down/up the menu, you can ensure the airplane mode is enabled and make doubly sure the Bluetooth is off.
This makes sure the phone cannot be remotely wiped. The latest models of iPhone can also be found with 'find my' even when switched off. If you switch off Bluetooth that stops it happening

Sound spike you'll need his fingerprint to get in. If he's a deep sleeper, go for it.

I know how it feels to be sick to the stomach knowing SOMETHING is going on, but you have to know what.
Ultimately it doesn't matter, but right now, feeling sick, it matters.
Good luck OP.

AhNowTed · 08/09/2021 19:28

@SuperstoreFan

To be fair if my company phone vanished I'd be panicking too.

True but if it was just a company phone, you'd ask if the OP had seen it.

The fact he hasn't says it all.

WhatsErFace2020 · 08/09/2021 19:31

You may not need to code as turning the airplane mode off Will allow for any new messages to come through which you’ll be able to respond to if you wish without unlocking it (unless he’s already told the AP not to contact him on it of course, although if he’s really devious he won’t have their number saved in his original phone)

But And this is IMPORTANT Having airplane mode off means he’ll be able to track The phone, so if you have it at home he’ll know it’s there somewhere, but obvs if you have it in your car or at a friends he could know you’re onto him. So please bear in mind you should probably keep it on AP mode constantly until you’re checking for messages to come through. But only do this in the place you found the phone so he’ll be non the wiser through ‘find my iPhone’

dodobookends · 08/09/2021 19:37

@SuperstoreFan

So you have stolen your husband's company phone OP?
No she hasn't. Because she owns a share in the company, therefore also the phone. You can't steal your own asset.
ufucoffee · 08/09/2021 19:40

What happens if you ring it though. Surely it's easy enough to answer the phone and then you're in? Or am I being incredibly thick probably

SpiesRUs · 08/09/2021 19:41

How much money are you willing to throw at it and how low are you prepared to stoop?

If it were me, I'd buy an identical phone and leave it for him to find, within sight of a recording device so that you see him let the PIN into what he believes is his phone.

But I fully acknowledge that it is neither healthy nor rational way to behave.

But I get it, I've been in that position, searching for the secret phone that I knew he bought. It's horrible. Hugs

bamboocat · 08/09/2021 19:42

@Sampafie

If hes got an ounce of sense he would have already reset it to factory settings.

Dont have any advice, just here to see how this thread plays out before Mods ban you

Troll hunting isn't allowed, is it?
nimbuscloud · 08/09/2021 19:42

@ufucoffee
The phone is locked.
The op can do nothing without the passcode.

dryasaboner · 08/09/2021 19:44

If I personally suspected he had evidence on his phone I would ask him then and there to unlock the phone and let me look at it. If he wasn't happy to do that he would be asked to leave

caughtinanet · 08/09/2021 20:05

@ufucoffee

What happens if you ring it though. Surely it's easy enough to answer the phone and then you're in? Or am I being incredibly thick probably
Firstly she'd have to find out the number of the phone and secondly what help would calling it be?