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Is this early onset cocklodging or am I overthinking?

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dizzyupthegirl86 · 02/09/2021 10:58

I need to get my thoughts together and I know exactly what my best mate would say but a) he is male and b) doesn’t have the best relationship history.

So I’ve been single for about two years after a horrific break up that took me a while to get over. I’ve accomplished loads in that period and am happy with myself at the moment. I don’t need a relationship but I do miss having someone.
I started seeing someone a couple of months ago, initially I didn’t think there was much of a spark when we were texting but he was nice enough - but then after a few weeks something definitely turned a corner.
We’ve not spoken in great detail about finances but he works full time for his local council, I think from piecing bits together he earns maybe 20-23k? I earn 10k more. He was renting a room but his landlord sold the house so is now staying with his mom whilst saving up for a deposit. He’s 30, I’m 34, he lives around an hour away but typically comes to me as I live on my own.

The first time we went out, he suggested we split the bill. I didn’t have an issue with that. Second, third and fourth times, he came to mine, we ordered dinner and I paid. The second and third were cheap (maybe a tenner between us both times) but the third was about 40 quid and at that point I was a bit Hmm

After that, he suggested we go to a restaurant for dinner and the day before, he said he’d pay - which I thought was nice and a way of acknowledging he was aware I’d paid the last three times.
Next time, he came round, I paid - it was my ‘turn’, I thought. The time after that, we were ordering in and I told him it was his turn. He looked a bit surprised but said ok, though commented that at 45 quid, he hoped it was good. It was 45 coz he’d added a tenners worth of sides that HE wanted!

I then paid the last time. He knows I’ve got this week off work coz it’s my birthday and he suggested we go out for drinks and dinner yesterday which sounded lovely. He said he’d pick the restaurant, sent me a link and when I said how nice it looked, he said something like ‘yes but I’ve not looked at the prices yet’. He also said he’d come to mine beforehand (where we were going is roughly in the middle of where we both live). I told him that I usually get a taxi to the train station and then a train into town, but if there were two of us, a taxi straight into town would work out the same price - he said ‘that’s fine if we’re splitting it’…..

I thought it might be his way of saying he was on a budget (not something he’s ever bought up before) so I suggested we could do something cheaper if he wanted. He came over yesterday and I didn’t feel great so we decided to stay in. I suggested we could cook dinner with what I already had in, or go to the supermarket to get something - but he said he’d rather get a takeaway. He ordered it on the phone and asked if they took cards so I assumed he was paying - at this point, my (unspoken) logic was that it was his ‘turn’ and it was my birthday.

Food gets delivered and suddenly he can’t find his card. I give him mine to pay and he does so. If I’d been in that position, I’d have been mortified but would have offered to transfer it to the other person. No such offer.

So I’m at a bit of a loss really. I’m not typically that obsessed with money or who pays for what - I don’t mind at all taking it in turns and feel that it generally evens itself out. But I’m starting to get resentful about it now, and I’m noticing it more and more.

These comments about money really take the shine off things a bit! If I was in that position, I wouldn’t expect to be paid for but I’d definitely suggest cheaper things or offer to cook for someone.

A few weeks ago, he was over and he suggested staying the night - I was a bit thrown and said no. The next time he came over, he fell asleep but then basically wouldn’t get up, made out he was falling back to sleep. It was like he was expecting me to just cave? I told him three times he needed to get up and ended up turning the light on and leaving the room before he actually did it.
In a lot of ways, he’s great - he’s really nice, he’s engaging, he pays attention to what i say and is very generous with his attention. He’s close to his brother and the only day they both have off is Saturdays so he spends all day on Saturday with his brother, which does mean the things we can do are limited.

Sometimes I feel a bit Pearl-clutchy about things, so I don’t know whether I’m just overthinking these things. I would never dream of inviting myself to stay over, I’d wait to be invited.
I suppose what I’m asking is…. Is there another viewpoint I’m not seeing on the money side of things? It only became noticeable after the third time I ended up paying but it feels like he’s happy to let me pay. If he’d genuinely lost his card (and it did turn up once at my house after falling out of his pocket so it’s not outside the realms of possibility) and offered to transfer the cost of dinner, or even half, I wouldn’t feel quite so…. Used.

OP posts:
dizzyupthegirl86 · 03/09/2021 23:25

@wincarwoo

Slightly derailing but I was once given a Leeds scarf and tickets to a Leeds match in a plastic bag for Christmas.

OP good luck with the new found space in your brain that isn't occupied with resentment 💐

Had an ex buy me a load of…. Pvc bedroom-wear? With the intention of me picking the ones I liked most and him sending the others back. About 800 quids worth. He didn’t realise that they weren’t able to accept refunds. We broke up a few weeks later. I can’t bring myself to get rid of them coz of how horrifically costly they were so moved house with all this vile shiny black stuff.
OP posts:
dizzyupthegirl86 · 03/09/2021 23:27

@PornStarQuarantini thank you! It’s actually tomorrow, well 35 minutes. I don’t feel too great today so it’s been nice to take it easy today and read a book under a blanket and have hot tea. Hopefully a decent nights sleep will see me right!

OP posts:
wincarwoo · 03/09/2021 23:34

@dizzyupthegirl86 eeuck! Have you got rid yet?

dizzyupthegirl86 · 03/09/2021 23:39

[quote wincarwoo]@dizzyupthegirl86 eeuck! Have you got rid yet?[/quote]
Of the bloke? Or the wipe clean shiny black stuff?

OP posts:
dizzyupthegirl86 · 03/09/2021 23:41

To be fair, one of them is a really long zip up flared coat with lace on the sleeves. Gives Carrie-Anne moss in the matrix vibes. If it was a tiny bit less shiny, I’d totally wear it out.

Jokes, the only place I ever to these days is the nature reserve with the dog or asda.

OP posts:
AlrightThereSkippy · 03/09/2021 23:43

I quadrupled dare you to wear it to Asda... Grin

dizzyupthegirl86 · 03/09/2021 23:43

It IS coming up to rainy season….

OP posts:
dizzyupthegirl86 · 03/09/2021 23:45

I just found it online. It’s not zip up at all…. Obviously that makes it totally wearable.

www.avenue-privee.com/veste-vinyle/55445-long-manteau-powerwetlook-divalicious-f128c-noir-handmade.html

Compared to some of the stuff, it’s quite modest really. If only it had pockets to hold other people’s cash cards.

OP posts:
AlrightThereSkippy · 03/09/2021 23:48

Yeah, totally agree, a zip would make that look silly going round the frozen aisle at the supermarket. The button changes everything! Wear it, wear it!

bridgeofslides · 04/09/2021 00:28

@squashyhat

I have nothing to add but 'early onset cocklodging' is my new favourite phrase Grin
It's brilliant isn't it!!
tiredvommachine · 04/09/2021 00:57

Happy birthday Dizzy WineFlowers

TheFormidableMrsC · 04/09/2021 00:58

I think you've handled this amazingly OP. Wishing you a very happy birthday, it's mine on Monday, I'll raise a glass to us both ThanksCakeGinWine

DreamTheMoors · 04/09/2021 01:00

@dizzyupthegirl86

“You’re ridiculously tight, your respect for boundaries is appalling and you’re shite in bed. AND YOU OWE ME 45 QUID.
Now lose my number.”

Since you know you’re never getting your money back anyhow and you’re super-pissed off after this thread and want your text to really hit home. This should do the trick. 😂

Guiltypleasures001 · 04/09/2021 02:13

Happy Birthday op

On and eBay or vinted the vinyl

MadamBatty · 04/09/2021 02:19

I had form for picking tight men
Husband who never actually bought me a Christmas or Birthday present. He used promise all sorts but nothing arrived. I’d lie for him to relatives & friends that I got something lovely.

Another Ex who came into a lot of money, about 500k, I was looking after his son for the day when the money hit his account. He texted to say he had a lovely surprise for us. The surprise was he’d bought himself a Rolex with not even a pack of sweets for the kid. I’ll never forget the disappointment on his face.

Another ex was taking from my coin container. I can’t handle coins anymore so I dump them in a container then spend together or give to a friends charity. I was wondering why the container wasn’t getting any fuller when I caught home red handed. His reply? I thought that was what it was there for.

Enough about my terrible choices. Don’t doubt yourself OP. Mean with money is mean with everything else. You made the right decision. Any residual doubt is coming from the birthday melancholy. That’ll pass.

Starseeking · 04/09/2021 03:00

Happy birthday OP, and well done for holding your boundaries. All of those things which bothered you about this relationship would have bothered me too.

I earn well, and my last DP earned about half of what I did, and was tight to boot. I made every excuse under the sun for him, as I didn't want to come across as money-grabbing despite the fact he had no money to grab!

I want to emulate you in my next relationship, I can see some of what you have described could easily happen to me if I'm not careful now I'm a single mum, however I'm determined not to let ir. You sound genuinely great, and I'm sure you'll find the perfect person for you soon

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 04/09/2021 03:04

Happy Freedom Birthday!!
Go out and have a stonkingly good time!

Mummyoflittledragon · 04/09/2021 04:48

I’ve just caught up on your thread. When you broke up with him, did he mention having bought you a birthday gift? If he didn’t, after subsidising him over the relationship, it really does reiterate that he’s tight-fisted. I would thoroughly expect him to say if he had as he’d think the gift a big deal.

happinessischocolate · 04/09/2021 06:11

Happy birthday Dizzy have a great cocklodger free birthday 😁

FanFiction · 04/09/2021 07:05

Happy birthday Dizzy! 🎉🥳🎂🎈🎊
Enjoy the freedom!

I recently got rid of a tight arse, too. I helped him adapt his work to Covid-friendly conditions and he bragged about how much money he was making but he used it to control me, and I got the crap end of gifts - secondhand shit that was really a gift for himself. I can’t elaborate as it’s outing. While my friend’s partners were surprising them beautiful trinkets, cashmere, candles, nights away, I got stuff so I could participate in his sports.

Men like this are also loathe to spend on their homes. Doesn’t surprise me yours was living with parents. If you make any suggestion to them as how they might spend their £££ to invest in their homes (for themselves) they turn the story round and you get seen as controlling.

Leave them to roll in their shitty coins and pennies! eBay the fuck out of any crap gifts and enjoy the peace.

JadedSoJaded · 04/09/2021 09:48

Well done for tossing him back into the sea! What is it with these early onset cocklodgers? I had one who was such a skin flint he wouldn’t heat his house. Old converted stables. Came to mine and would declare he liked it because it’s warm and he gets good food. Erm yes, because I’m a middle aged woman who pays to heat her house and for decent groceries! Same one stayed for 5 nights while he ‘worked’ in the day and I looked after his delinquent dogs. As a favour. We had to get more food in on the fifth. He merrily wandered around collecting stuff then at the checkout said he didn’t have any money on him. I silently fumed that night and when he left the next day that was it. I fully suspect he actually had no idea of his appalling behaviour. Don’t know what I was thinking 🤦‍♀️

ThePluckOfTheCoward · 04/09/2021 11:04

@dizzyupthegirl86
Happy Birthday 🧁🍷
I hope you are feeling better and have a lovely day/evening with your friends.
You made the right decision.

billy1966 · 04/09/2021 11:31

Happy birthday, have a lovely day.

FinallyHere · 04/09/2021 11:39

Happy Birthday @hilfehilfehilfe or having noticed your user name, maybe

Herzlichen Glückwunsch zum Geburtstag

would be appreciated.

whynotwhatknot · 04/09/2021 12:18

Happy birthday op have a good time tonight