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Bastard bingo - full house!!

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helplesshopeless · 16/08/2021 06:59

Hi everyone, just creating a new thread for those interested as my second is nearly full now! I'll link back to the old one once mumsnet's browser is back up and running Grin

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RandomMess · 05/09/2021 18:48

Ah well DD can have a 2nd birthday party with your friends at your new home.

Thanks

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InkieNecro · 05/09/2021 23:55

@QuentinBunbury

The fact he said he will be addressing your "arrogance " speaks volumes though. He can't stand it that you are leaving him. I'd love to see how the solicitor communicates that. Its possible he's going to fall out with then you know, if he insists they write this guff.

Or rubbing their hands together at being paid for all that crap. Mine instructed someone to take me to court to get me to move house Hmm
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FoxgloveSummers · 06/09/2021 10:35

Hey @helplesshopeless isn’t it Happy Moving Week for you? Is he out of the house for a full day so you can just take your stuff and go with no fuss. Book a removal lorry and some hefty men with it!

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timeisnotaline · 06/09/2021 12:35

I hope moving out really helps but having read through all of this I also think you must consider court or possibly good experienced mediation. You can’t trust him for a moment- on any day he could back down on everything committed and come up with an unacceptable plan. He’s quite frightening and betas just from reading about him not being his victim! it’s lucky you’ve seen the light when you have, and your daughter is young enough to not see it all.

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helplesshopeless · 07/09/2021 14:08

The problem with having two parties is that we can't really invite her nursery friends to two separate events and expect them to come to both but yes we'll have separate family things.

He's just being an arse, he's being so forceful about the fact that we 'must' be in the 6/14 pattern by the time I move out. And he says I'm the controlling one! He told me this morning that I needed to get over myself because I suggested that her upset mood this morning was possibly due to anxieties over me being away tonight and tomorrow night; which is the longest she's ever been away from me. He just dismisses any suggestion that she'll struggle without me and says I'm being arrogant. It really concerns me for us actually being able to work together and respond to her needs during this adjustment period, as he's clearly going to point blank deny that she's missing me. Apparently I'm trying to emotionally condition her so she's dependent on me so that I can continue being dependent on her. Rahhh I honestly dislike him so much at the moment!

@FoxgloveSummers yes, I get the keys on Friday! Grin he doesn't know yet, and we're in the process of agreeing a schedule for who is at home when, so while I'm away from the house I'll be there sorting things out for her. I've just had a shed load of little fairy houses and doors delivered, that I am going to hide around the rental garden, for us to have a little fairy hunt when I first take her around Smile

I'm looking forward to getting away from him but still feeling really sad that my daughter is going to have this complicated back and forth life. I really hope he calms down and will be more amicable in future, but as it stands I know he'll just cut me out of her life when she's at his. Not the life I wanted for her Sad also panicking that her first day at school next year will fall on a morning she is at his, and that he won't let me come and be with her that morning. Would be the kind of thing he'd do out of spite!

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QuentinBunbury · 07/09/2021 14:42

I think you might need to accept you can't work with him and not even try. Unfortunately by showing him what matters to you (e.g. her first day at school) you just give him leverage. You might need to grey rock him and not engage.
It probably will be unsettling for herbit hopefully she'll settle down quickly once you are in your new place anf also not around when she's with stbxh. He will behave differently when he can't get to you though how he is interacting with her.

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RandomMess · 07/09/2021 15:05

Perhaps you need to change your narrative in some reverse psychology.

That's great you are going to host the party, what time shall I turn up?

Yes soon as the 6/14 is sorted the better I have so many evenings plans/classes to get booked in/weekends away.

He is using DD to hurt you because he knows you care, start showing indifference. Basically drop the rope in the battle over DD and longer term you will win the war as the warm loving parent that doesn't slate the other one.

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billy1966 · 07/09/2021 15:14

Both the above posts are excellent advice.

The more you advertise your pressure points, the more he will apply pressure.

He doesn't really care about his daughter because if he did he would be focused on her well-being.

The truth is his needs and ego come first.

She will see this and he will lose out long term.

Focus on creating a lovely calm home for her that will be her sanctuary.

As she grows and becomes more verbal, she will express her preference for your home.

I also think that scum like your ex will need another victim an may well move on sooner rather than later.

Try and take @QuentinBunbury and @RandomMess's excellent advice.

Flowers

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RandomMess · 07/09/2021 15:48

If you started going on about going out on dates how likely would he want to put a stop to that?? Very likely I suspect.

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freeatlast2021 · 07/09/2021 16:15

Dear HH, your stbx (sounds good, doesn't it), is doing all this not because he loves and cares about his daughter but only to hurt you. I do not think that he wants to spend too much time with her, so I would not be surprised if he himself did not suggest a change of schedule at some point so that she ends up being with you more, once he realized how much work it actually is taking care of a child.

The way he is acting right now, no, he can never endanger your position in your daughter's life. He is mean and spiteful and does not put her needs before his and she feels this even though she is so young still. Once you are out of that house and have your own life you will feel a lot better and the pressure that you are feeling will lessen. Yes, the adjustment around your DD schedule will take time, but soon enough you will get into the rhythm and all will fall in place.

Unfortunately you cannot change what he does and what happens at his house, so focus your attention on yours. Make sure that you give your DD what she needs when she is with you. More then anything, I think, she needs to know that you are ok. She needs stability and certainty, love and attention, so I think it is most important for both of you now that you try, as much as you can, not to be to upset with your stbx gimmicks. Like other posters said, do not show him how much you care about certain things, how much it upsets you. But like I said this will all be easier once you are out of that house. Good luck to you. Hugs. Flowers

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billy1966 · 07/09/2021 18:42

Oh and when you move do not allow him in your new home.

Keep it a dickhead free zone for your daughter.
Flowers

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Mix56 · 08/09/2021 09:08

I agree, you keep giving him info. How did he know you were in touch with OM again?
You keep showing your hand.
BTW, he cannot refuse you be at first day at school, teachers meeting, sports day etc if its his day. You don't even need to tell him you will be there. You just turn up, encourage & support your DD, then leave. He can't make a fuss in front of the whole school.
But absolutely you don't need to fight for the specific day, it just gives him info to hurt you with.

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QuentinBunbury · 08/09/2021 09:51

How did he know you were in touch with OM again? I think HH said he got hold of her phone.

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bigbaggyeyes · 08/09/2021 11:36

One of the easiest ways to ensure you see more of your dd is let him think you're pleased with the extra free time as it will give you the opportunity to have a social life/see friends/ further your career/go to they gym etc etc. Next time mentions the 6/14 tell him that's great news as you have lots of things planned for your child free time, if he asks what tell him the above (but no details)

Stop giving him personal information about you. Don't tell him about the OM, only discuss the divorce particulars or your dc, nothing more. Become boring as hell, nothing to see here. He now has no right whatsoever to know anything about your private life.

As for the first day at school, he can't ban you, he's not the police, speak to the school, explain the situation and ask to see your dc before she goes into class, you can turn up after he's gone if you have to. You can wait at school. What's he going to do, call the police because you're there, refuse to take dd into school.

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QuentinBunbury · 08/09/2021 12:59

One of the easiest ways to ensure you see more of your dd is let him think you're pleased with the extra free time as it will give you the opportunity to have a social life/see friends/ further your career/go to they gym etc etc. Next time mentions the 6/14 tell him that's great news as you have lots of things planned for your child free time, if he asks what tell him the above (but no details)
This is a great plan actually. If he thinks he can disrupt romantic weekends away/nights out with OM he will.

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FoxgloveSummers · 09/09/2021 10:06

You don't know how much good it does my soul to read "He's just being an arse" @helplesshopeless!

He is, he really is, and this is the anger you needed to get out and make a great life for you and your daughter! Great to see you spotting his hypocrisy of "of course she can manage without you but if she misses me at all you're banned from seeing her". Do you think he'll manage with her on his own for days at a time? Not that I want you to get into this but do you know what his childcare plan is? Is he going part time?

Well jel of the fairy doors!

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Morporkia · 10/09/2021 08:39

Good luck in your new home HH 💐

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Alcemeg · 10/09/2021 09:11

Keys day! KEYS DAY!!!

Unlocking the door to your future happiness @helplesshopeless Flowers

He'll do everything to poison your happiness because deep down he envies your ability to be happy. He'll call you all the names under the sun (arrogant? smug? conceited?) just to try to make you feel ashamed of being the sort of person who can just get on with life naturally. Please try to remember it's nothing to be ashamed of, and protect yourself by taking him with a pinch of salt. Easier said than done I know, it will get easier with time. Flowers

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billy1966 · 10/09/2021 11:23

Every good wish in your new home.🥳

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helplesshopeless · 10/09/2021 15:59

Thank you ladies! Had a bit of a rocky start, the place stinks of dog and the carpets and settee are all yucky and stained 🙈 however I've asked for them to get it all professionally cleaned (it has definitely NOT been cleaned yet!) and hopefully repaint the main rooms and it should be a lot better after that. The space in itself is lovely and we'll be fine here for 6 months until my shiny new house is ready.

Thanks for the advice re giving him less leverage. Re my daughter's first day at school, it's obviously a long way off but of course I'd hope to be there to help her get dressed, do her hair, walk her there after a special breakfast and so on. I don't want to be lingering at the school gates like a mad woman hoping to catch a glimpse of her 🤣 however, hopefully by that point he will be calmer about things and realise that obviously it's a special moment for her and she's like us both there.

@QuentinBunbury is right that he found out I was in touch with the OM from a particular nasty event where he took my phone and locked me out of the house! Nothing I can do about that now, but I'm definitely trying to keep him at arm's length with all other information about my life and where the house is etc. Doesn't stop him demanding information though! Not sure how feasible it is to never tell him where the house is, I guess I could arrange things so I pick her up from his rather than him drop off here...

He's away this weekend, so I'm looking forward to a peaceful weekend just me and my little girl :) hope you all have a lovely weekend too Thanks

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helplesshopeless · 10/09/2021 16:01

@FoxgloveSummers he's continuing to work full time. The two nights in a working week that he has her, she'll have been at nursery so no main meal required, basically just get home, snack and bed. Easy enough, less easy once she starts school and will be home earlier and need a proper meal! Then he has her every other weekend as well for Friday and Saturday night.

I was away this week for two nights (to help her get used to the schedule) and got home early on Thursday morning. She was sat surrounded by mess in the kitchen, eating cake for breakfast 🙈 to be fair, that wouldn't normally happen, but it sounds like he'd had a bad few days generally. So I'm hoping reality will sink in and he'll realise he'll be happy to let go of that extra night!

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Peach1886 · 10/09/2021 16:02

Good to hear you have the keys to the new place, and looking forward even more to hearing that you and DD have moved in - have a lovely weekend x

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Cavagirl · 10/09/2021 16:32

Great news, you've come so bloody far! Hope you've got a bottle of something cold and fizzy waiting for you this weekend 🥂

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billy1966 · 10/09/2021 16:42

The less you do for him, to help him or step in to do things that will makes his time with her less challenging the better.

He needs to see EXACTLY whats involved, feeding, laundry etc.

Hopefully when you move out and are looking great, being happy and cheerful, he will want to reduce your free time by giving up more time.

He will be looking for a new victim to massage that massive ugly ego of his.

Flowers

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Mix56 · 10/09/2021 21:57

Great that this plan is set in stone now !
You have the keys & a w/e free from his misery!
Yes I sincerely hope you didn't clear up the mess around Dd, his mess, his job to clear up
Let him experience real parenting.

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