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Family said I’m not welcome there for as long I am witn this man?

185 replies

Danijoanne · 14/08/2021 09:18

I'm in a relationship with a Turkish man for the last 11 months and I saw another side to him last month. To make a long story short his ex who's married now from Turkey contacted him and he basically told me to accept it or walk away. I couldn't accept it but I also couldn't walk away. He had been perfect and amazing up until then. He treated me great I felt so lucky.
He wanted to marry her 10 years ago in Turkey but her family got Involved and didn't accept it so it didn't happen. He's 39 and I turned 30 on Sunday.

Well we argued like crazy for a whole month. Things got heated and I stressed him so much because of her he was real nasty to me. In the car he went crazy and started smashing everything up, he ripped off the mirror and ripped off the sun viser, he banged the windows and I was scared he would turn his anger on me I got out the car and he just left me in the rain.

2 days later he grabbed my leg and squeezed so hard I had a bruise that turned purple and is still there faded to this day. He grabbed me by my neck and warned me to shut up before he harms me. That's all he's done to me and I'm not making excuses but he hasn't touched me since and things are good now.

Not long after this incident I decided to walk away and I did and he came running a few days later telling me he's blocked her and won't talk to her again and he wants to be how we were before. He said that's not him what he did to me he was just too stressed and I was fighting with him all month he blew. I believe him and for the last 2 weeks we've been good.

However, last week I'm late for my period and tested - positive. Although doctors think I'm either having an ectopic pregnancy or a miscarriage as they can't find a baby in the sac. I got more tests and a scan Tuesday. I haven't told nobody that I'm pregnant though.

I have an auntie (my mums sister) and my uncle her husband who are like my parents. They are amazing.

They've been there through mt really dark times 2 years ago and have been there for me ever since.
My dad who was amazing died when I was 17 and my mum I don't have a relationship with her she is just evil. So to have them I knew I could run to them when a problem occurred and they'd support me.

Well, i went to visit them yesterday and my auntie said she'd like to talk to me. She didn't say it horrible but she said for her and my uncles well being I'm not welcome at their home anymore for as long as I am with him. Because I told them everything he had done to me and she said they are being effected seeing me hurt and they can't deal with it. She said if they don't see me they won't know. What they don't know doesn't hurt. She said she can't accept me with him and they worry over me so much. My uncle more than her as he's more emotional. She said they will always be there for me but only when and if I decide to get rid of him for good. And she said if I do and text her saying it's over with him she said don't expect a reply straight, she'll need time to find out if I am serious because I always say it's over and end up back a few days later. They said their door is closed for me now whilst I'm with him and I completely understand why they are doing this. They both hugged me when I left and told me to please think and do the right thing.
They've tried helping me and advising me but I just listen to myself and want what I want.

I know the right thing is to walk away since seeing that side to him last month. But on the other hand I have hope he will change and things will be amazing again. I want him and have strong feelings for him to walk away to please my family would hurt me but then choosing to stay with him means losing my family and I don't have nobody.

One part of me is saying choose him because that's what you want and to hell with everyone else if they can't accept that because I won't be happy leaving him at the moment. But another part is saying choose your family they care so much about me and will always be there for me.

I was at his last night upset but I can't tell him what's going on because it's about picking and choosing him or them. My family didn't say to make a decision they just said when and if I decide to get rid of him then I'd be more than welcome back there. They haven't said make a choice but just think about it and what's for the best.

Any advice? Please take into consideration that I am like starting to love this man, and I wear my heart on my sleeve. I always see the best in people and give chances to change in hope they do. What if I walk away now and he really did change? All sorts of things going through my head! :(

OP posts:
NinaBallerinaShoes · 14/08/2021 10:05

Leave him before he kills you.

Doyoumind · 14/08/2021 10:05

He won't change. He will get worse.

Thingsdogetbetter · 14/08/2021 10:05

You are being gobsmackingly naive and seem to lack any survival instinct.

All this 'see the good in everyone' and 'chance to change' rhetoric you tell yourself is just bollock to cover up the fact that you have absolutely no sharkcage and low self worth. Wrapping it up in faux-positive personalty traits allows you to avoid what you perceive as immediate tough decisions.

He has shown himself to be violent when 'stressed' and unable to take responsibility for his actions. You are wrapping this up into a me and him against the world romantic fairytale.

I suspect this is not the first abusive relationship that your family has helped you through Am I correct??

The romantic blinkers need to come off, and you need to get to the bottom of why an abusive man who has very clearly told you who he is is even on your radar as a long term life choice.

CallmeHendricks · 14/08/2021 10:05

His excuse for assaulting you was because YOU were arguing with HIM?
So he's saying it's your fault and that you effectively asked for it.
I think that if this does indeed turn out to be a failed pregnancy, you should find some positives in that and GET THE HELL OUT of this "relationship."
If the pregnancy is viable, then you should also GET THE HELL OUT of this "relationship."

SamiReed1 · 14/08/2021 10:06

Once they've had the 'taste' of inflicting pain and fear in you, they will repeat it. Again, and again. It is NEVER a once off. They never change. Ever. It's impossible once they've had that taste of power, inflicting fear and pain. So many women are in their graves, murdered by their partner that they thought they could 'change', that they thought they could change them. So many who thought that, have been murdered by the man they thought their love would change. They never ever change. They only escalate and get worse, until one time they go that little bit further - they strangle you just that several seconds longer. And then you stop breathing and are dead. You'll never change him, you'll only end up dead. Please leave now before you get in too deep with him, dodge this bullet and run as far away from that pos as you can.

nimbuscloud · 14/08/2021 10:06

Hopefully the police will be called at some point.

HungryHippo11 · 14/08/2021 10:08

Sorry I didn't read it all. But I got to That's all he's done to me and I'm not making excuses but he hasn't touched me since and things are good now and that's all I need to read. Leave now. "All he has done" is be violent enough to bruise you. Thats enough.

stepupandbecounted · 14/08/2021 10:08

This is just the very beginning of what is going to do to you...

His mask has slipped, he has shown you precisely who he is.

An old friend of mine married a Turkish man, she has two dc and is stuck out there now as one of his many 'ladies' and he beats her, and she is terrified and totally unable to leave because his children were born there, and the law does not protect her. She now lives with serious abuse op, sometimes on a daily basis. I have tried to support her but it is so painful to listen to.

Stick to the family you have love and trusted for all of these years. They are so scared for you.

Get some counselling and work out how you come to accept this man in your life in the first place.

The ex is neither here or there, I suspect quietly he is still married to her. You are in a real dangerous place. GET OUT whilst you can, don't look back. In time you will see this in a totally new light.

66babe · 14/08/2021 10:08

Please listen to all of the excellent advice given here
These are women who could have been through similar experiences
We've also been supporting women in your position here for a very long time

Leave this man now and thank your family for helping you see the truth
End it completely.. today
He has shown you exactly who he is
Do you want that mirror or viser to be your face next ?
He has already put his hand on you in anger
Leave now
And pray that you are not pregnant
Please

MrsKeats · 14/08/2021 10:09

If a man did that to my daughter I would be doing more than not making him welcome.
I would be involving the police for a start.
You know what to do here op.

nancybotwinbloom · 14/08/2021 10:09

There are more then than 7 billion people on the planet. Pick a better one.

It might hurt now but wait till you have no one but him. It will only get worse.

You've shown him you will accept this abuse from him, why would he change. Especially if you isolate yourself from your family.

Run away now. He is not for you.

Warmduscher · 14/08/2021 10:09

He is a violent loser and you have loving family you’re prepared to never see again to stay with him?

Herecomesthesun70 · 14/08/2021 10:09

You'd be a fool to stay with this piece of shit. Get away from him now before he kills you

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 14/08/2021 10:10

If you have a child, he could take it to Turkey when he decides to go home and marry a ‘suitable’ woman there. You wouldn’t have a chance if getting your child back.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 14/08/2021 10:10

The lovely amazing guy you met wasn't him, that was an act. The violent aggressive bully is his real personality. Run a fucking mile, and honestly if you are still pregnant I wouldn't tell him.

ILoveAllRainbowsx · 14/08/2021 10:10

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Chikapu · 14/08/2021 10:11

You've completely minimised what he did and somehow managed to turn it around so you're at fault. This is a classic in the abusers handbook, they want you to think you're the one that caused them to be violent.
He won't change, he can't change, he is a violent abuser who will end up seriously hurting or killing you. You'd be an idiot to stay and to turn your back on family that want to help you.

DreamingofTimbuktu · 14/08/2021 10:11

Leave him now. He may kill you next time he throttles you because he’s stressed. There will definitely be a next time

dottydodah · 14/08/2021 10:11

Please leave this man .He is an abuser and misogynistic as well! You are only 30 .You have all the time in the world to meet someone else .Behaving violently in the car ,and leaving you in the rain, plus hurting your leg couldnt have any more red flags than a day at the beach on a rip tide FFS!

Prokupatuscrakedatus · 14/08/2021 10:11

Start thinking with your brain not your ovaries.

SpeakingFranglais · 14/08/2021 10:13

He won’t change and what’s his visa status? Sounds violent and still in love with his ex.

You know what you need to do.

godmum56 · 14/08/2021 10:14

"2 days later he grabbed my leg and squeezed so hard I had a bruise that turned purple and is still there faded to this day. He grabbed me by my neck and warned me to shut up before he harms me. That's all he's done to me and I'm not making excuses but he hasn't touched me since and things are good now."

" I am like starting to love this man,"

Things are not good now and never will be. Come to your senses NOW

LondonJax · 14/08/2021 10:15

'You stressed him out so much he smashed up the car'
'He grabbed my leg so hard he bruised it' and 'he grabbed me by the neck' but 'that's all he's done and things are fine now'....

Read those words back. Now imagine your best friend had said this about a man he was with. What would you advise her to do? Now do it.

I stayed with my ex-H for over 10 years because he was 'all sweetness and light' in between the times I was a human punch bag. 'It won't happen again', 'if you didn't stress me out' etc are all words used by violent people.

I am no different to the person who left my ex. I've been married for 17 years to my now DH. He has never laid a finger on me (just as he shouldn't!) It's not you, it's the man. Seriously walk away now. He will make you think you're crazy in the end and everything he doesn't want to do will cause him 'stress'.

I remember the day I moved into my own flat, having left my ex. I sat in my living that weekend wondering why I felt so happy. Then I realised it was because I wasn't listening for the key in the lock, I wasn't trying to work out his mood and get my mood into a place to suit him. I wasn't walking on eggshells anymore and I've never walked on them since.

Your aunt is a sensible woman. Follow her advice and do not look back.

Tistheseason17 · 14/08/2021 10:15

The fact you are making excuses for him makes me think you'll stay. You are waiting for that one person to say, "he can change" and you'll cling to that.
He won't change - that is your future and for any children if you choose him. You can't fix him.

CherieBabySpliffUp · 14/08/2021 10:15

Whether you are pregnant or not you need to leave.
He WILL get worse,no matter what he says now.

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