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Family said I’m not welcome there for as long I am witn this man?

185 replies

Danijoanne · 14/08/2021 09:18

I'm in a relationship with a Turkish man for the last 11 months and I saw another side to him last month. To make a long story short his ex who's married now from Turkey contacted him and he basically told me to accept it or walk away. I couldn't accept it but I also couldn't walk away. He had been perfect and amazing up until then. He treated me great I felt so lucky.
He wanted to marry her 10 years ago in Turkey but her family got Involved and didn't accept it so it didn't happen. He's 39 and I turned 30 on Sunday.

Well we argued like crazy for a whole month. Things got heated and I stressed him so much because of her he was real nasty to me. In the car he went crazy and started smashing everything up, he ripped off the mirror and ripped off the sun viser, he banged the windows and I was scared he would turn his anger on me I got out the car and he just left me in the rain.

2 days later he grabbed my leg and squeezed so hard I had a bruise that turned purple and is still there faded to this day. He grabbed me by my neck and warned me to shut up before he harms me. That's all he's done to me and I'm not making excuses but he hasn't touched me since and things are good now.

Not long after this incident I decided to walk away and I did and he came running a few days later telling me he's blocked her and won't talk to her again and he wants to be how we were before. He said that's not him what he did to me he was just too stressed and I was fighting with him all month he blew. I believe him and for the last 2 weeks we've been good.

However, last week I'm late for my period and tested - positive. Although doctors think I'm either having an ectopic pregnancy or a miscarriage as they can't find a baby in the sac. I got more tests and a scan Tuesday. I haven't told nobody that I'm pregnant though.

I have an auntie (my mums sister) and my uncle her husband who are like my parents. They are amazing.

They've been there through mt really dark times 2 years ago and have been there for me ever since.
My dad who was amazing died when I was 17 and my mum I don't have a relationship with her she is just evil. So to have them I knew I could run to them when a problem occurred and they'd support me.

Well, i went to visit them yesterday and my auntie said she'd like to talk to me. She didn't say it horrible but she said for her and my uncles well being I'm not welcome at their home anymore for as long as I am with him. Because I told them everything he had done to me and she said they are being effected seeing me hurt and they can't deal with it. She said if they don't see me they won't know. What they don't know doesn't hurt. She said she can't accept me with him and they worry over me so much. My uncle more than her as he's more emotional. She said they will always be there for me but only when and if I decide to get rid of him for good. And she said if I do and text her saying it's over with him she said don't expect a reply straight, she'll need time to find out if I am serious because I always say it's over and end up back a few days later. They said their door is closed for me now whilst I'm with him and I completely understand why they are doing this. They both hugged me when I left and told me to please think and do the right thing.
They've tried helping me and advising me but I just listen to myself and want what I want.

I know the right thing is to walk away since seeing that side to him last month. But on the other hand I have hope he will change and things will be amazing again. I want him and have strong feelings for him to walk away to please my family would hurt me but then choosing to stay with him means losing my family and I don't have nobody.

One part of me is saying choose him because that's what you want and to hell with everyone else if they can't accept that because I won't be happy leaving him at the moment. But another part is saying choose your family they care so much about me and will always be there for me.

I was at his last night upset but I can't tell him what's going on because it's about picking and choosing him or them. My family didn't say to make a decision they just said when and if I decide to get rid of him then I'd be more than welcome back there. They haven't said make a choice but just think about it and what's for the best.

Any advice? Please take into consideration that I am like starting to love this man, and I wear my heart on my sleeve. I always see the best in people and give chances to change in hope they do. What if I walk away now and he really did change? All sorts of things going through my head! :(

OP posts:
SleepingStandingUp · 14/08/2021 09:45

I know it hurts but I'd consider this pregnancy not fruiting as a sign and a blessing. This is your chance to walk away. Before we're reading about you in the newspaper and wondering why you didn't leave before he killed you

Volterra · 14/08/2021 09:46

So he is violent, caused severe bruising and acted in a way that could have led to him killing you ie. grabbing you by the next.

You are hopeful he won’t do it again and everything will be ok. Can I ask you what though processes you have gone through to think this is a possible outcome ?

Spondooliesforholibobs · 14/08/2021 09:46

Your auntie is trying extremely hard to keep you from this man with good reason.

From someone who has seen this all before, do not go back, do not have a child with him.

LIZS · 14/08/2021 09:46

He's abusive, gaslighting you so you feel his rage and destructive behaviour was your fault for challenging him. Set your standards higher, he will not change. Leave while you still have family support.

BornIn78 · 14/08/2021 09:47

And she said if I do and text her saying it's over with him she said don't expect a reply straight, she'll need time to find out if I am serious because I always say it's over and end up back a few days later

You’ve made out like this episode, the past month, was a one off, one bad month, but it sounds like splitting up and getting back together has been a frequent occurrence in this relationship with you - then going and dumping that all on your aunt and uncle, then a few days or weeks later breezing in to them like nothing has happened.

Any other friends and family you have will also get sick of this, hearing you whine and moan about him them back together again, rinse and repeat.

It’s absolutely exhausting being the ‘emotional dump’ for someone in your situation.

Pretty soon you’ll have nobody but this man left. I hope he’s worth it.

Volterra · 14/08/2021 09:47

Sorry - grabbed you by the neck.

Jaguar77 · 14/08/2021 09:48

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Mantlemoose · 14/08/2021 09:49

Choose you. Leave.

TheGenealogist · 14/08/2021 09:50

But on the other hand I have hope he will change and things will be amazing again.

Not going to happen.

Tinkerbellfluffyboots79 · 14/08/2021 09:50

You don’t need to be told to leave him, you know you shouldn’t stay. But you love a man who did all this stuff to you? The next time he will grab your neck and actually harm you. Is he really worth losing family over?

Why would he go back to amazing when he’s seen you coming running back when he’s physically harmed you and you take him back, you’ve let him know you’ll put up with it, and now a potential baby into all this…I know it’s hard and heart wrenching and you’re remembering the good stuff but he’s turned and I don’t think he is worth giving up your family and your safety.

ikeepseeingit · 14/08/2021 09:51

LEAVE HIM. I got so worried for you reading that post. He could have killed you in that moment and he wanted you to know that. Please leave him, he is a danger to you.

SpeedRunParent · 14/08/2021 09:52

You have your answer OP, sometime we all have to make choices like a grown-up. Thus childish notion of staying with an abuser because 'you want what you want' is just daft. He is not the only man in the world, go find a decent one instead and stop with the drama.

ChavDiningHalls · 14/08/2021 09:52

Nothing about this abusive man is "amazing". He has threatened to kill you (that's what he was telling you when he grabbed your throat).

You need to tell him it's over, and mean it.

spotcheck · 14/08/2021 09:53

*but he hasn't touched me since". ? Stop making excuses for this man.
You did not 'push him' or cause this n any way. This is who he is. This wasn't a 'one off' and he didn't react that way because of his super strong feelings for you.
He is an abuser.

It sounds like you have had some sad things happen in your life. Boot this guy out before he becomes another major event.

Well done your Aunt. Pick them.

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 14/08/2021 09:54

Hopefully you haven't told him about the pregnancy? It's sad to say but it will be for the best if the pregnancy ends. Once this idiot has you trapped with a baby, he will ramp up the abuse.

So his excuse for going into a violent rage in the car, and for assaulting you at home, is that he was stressed?! I'm sorry but can you not see what transparent pathetic bullshit that is? Especially since the reason he was "stressed" is because he was cheating on you! No, he went into a violent rage because he wanted you to shut the fuck up and let him carry on his ego-boosting talk with his ex. And he's made you think that's its your fault for "stressing him out" for a month!

Please, please leave this man before things get even worse. Your aunt and uncle sound lovely and like they have your best interests at the forefront. It must be very painful for them seeing you repeatedly choose an abuser.

It sounds like your mum abused you as a child (and perhaps abused your dad as well?) and that can leave you with a very skewed perspective on normal relationships and how you deserve to be treated. Please read up on this
www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/

He's been not violent for 2 weeks. He will start again. It's a cycle that can only be broken by leaving.

HermioneWeasley · 14/08/2021 09:54

He grabbed me by my neck and warned me to shut up before he harms me

Strangulation is incredibly high risk and a predictor of lethal violence, more than that he has TOLD you he intends to harm you.

If you have children with this man he can take them to Turkey and you’ll never see them again.

I think there is a very high risk he will end up killing you.

Get out now and don’t every speak to him or communicate with him again. Go to the police and file a complaint of his violence.

Herja · 14/08/2021 09:55

You would be mad to stay with this man.

He has grabbed you by the neck. That is serious - it's a major indicator for life ending violence. It is not normal and it will not end here. Leave him fast and for good.

He has injured you because you don't want him to cheat on you. You think he will magically improve? There is no chance that this will happen. Any kindness or loving behaviour is a facade; he's not loving - he's someone who will attack you because his own behaviour is wrong and upsetting you.

Spondooliesforholibobs · 14/08/2021 09:56

I wish I could edit my comment above, I wrote to quickly without considering your early pregnancy, sorry for that. Flowers

He has managed to cover up his true self for 10 months but you have seen how he reacts when upset.

Life is full of struggles and upset but don’t choose a relationship with this man as the struggles will be harder if he threatens and assaults you.

You cannot go back to the start. He wants to erase what you now know about him, but that won’t happen.

Please listen to all the other replies and mine, block him. Read up all you can about abusive men, it is not your fault for being taken in by him but it’s all you can do to protect yourself in future relationships.

SamiReed1 · 14/08/2021 09:58

He is absolute SCUM. Absolute scum. Any man who is decent doesn't even have it in them no matter what to do that to a woman, they would not be capable of it. You've seen what he is capable of. What happens if you have a baby and the abuse really ramps up (and it always does during pregnancy and after the birth with, with domestic violence), a few sleepless nights, the stress of a new baby and hit loses control and strangles you again, and/or the baby? Could you ever live with yourself? He is dangerous, violent, he doesn't love you or respect you. He is nothing but a bit of shit. Are you that desperate for any guy that you will accept that? You can't truly love him because he does not love you. That is not love. He is scum from the sewer. Flush him back to where he came, and go back to your family who love you, cherish you, and care about you. Because if you don't, you will soon end up dead.

LadyWithLapdog · 14/08/2021 09:59

He’s bad news. Run.

TrampolineForMrKite · 14/08/2021 10:00

He won’t change. Walk away, have an abortion, make a different life. This will only end with pain and it could end up with you dead. It happens all the time. He won’t change.

ChaToilLeam · 14/08/2021 10:02

If you want to be dead, stay with him. Because that is what will happen.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 14/08/2021 10:03

he grabbed my leg and squeezed so hard I had a bruise that turned purple and is still there faded to this day. He grabbed me by my neck and warned me to shut up before he harms me. That's all he's done to me and I'm not making excuses but he hasn't touched me since and things are good now.

No, OP. Things are not good now. He’s backed off the violence for the moment, but he will do it again. As others here have said, it’s most likely to start when you’re pregnant.

Please don’t bring a child into this doomed relationship.

RageAgainstTheDyingOfTheLight · 14/08/2021 10:04

Hey hey mumsnet over here! It's another one of those "I love him so much that I'd risk the next outburst. Everyone says he is going to escalate and really hurt me, even people in real life but that's because they don't know how GOOD he is! "

Lady, if I had a penny...
Your family is giving you a wake up call, if you are real.

Embracelife · 14/08/2021 10:04

You are being incredibly naive

He will assault you again

Look up cycle of abuse

"days later he grabbed my leg and squeezed so hard I had a bruise that turned purple and is still there faded to this day. He grabbed me by my neck and warned me to shut up before he harms me"

He can and will do this again
Harm you and your baby
Get away now
Just because he is nice now does not mean the dark snd violence side is gone