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My husband is lovely but I can’t bear sex with him

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Marriedmiserably · 10/08/2021 06:54

We’ve been married 5 years and have a 3 year old. He is the kindest, most thoughtful, honest, attentive man. He does washing and cleaning without having to be asked, he adores our daughter and worships me. Everything he does in life is centres around the two of us. BUT. He is also very very needy, he can’t do any DIY (won’t even try, I do it all), when he’s stressed or anxious I get a version of him that I cannot stand and I feel like I have to validate him constantly. It’s almost like he needs my praise, gratitude and body to feel worthy.
Physically I have absolutely zero attraction to him. I love him as a person and I am grateful for the father he is. We have a lot in common but are also very different people (I’m confident, outspoken, impulsive and completely independent and he is more reserved, afraid of change, insecure, needy and quite jealous)
My husband has put on weight since we met and it all goes on his face and chin which I know is shallow, but I find very unattractive. I didn’t fancy him when we met, we became friends and found a spark which I now feel is completely dead on my part. He would have sex with me 3 times a day if I was open to it but I can barely bring myself to do it once a fortnight. I don’t know what to do, this is absolutely killing me :-(

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HelenHywater · 10/08/2021 14:50

Hi OP. Look you just have no sexual attraction for him whatsoever. Of course that's a valid reason for ending your marriage. It won't stop you both being parents to your kids. I would not stay in a marriage like that.

no judgment, but yes you should let him go and find someone who does want to have sex with him.

Everyone else, she isn't shallow, or cruel. Yes maybe she shouldn't have married him, but she is where she is. It would be cruel to both of you to stay married imo.

BabyBiker · 10/08/2021 15:04

[quote Marriedmiserably]@Birminghambloke thank you for your gentle, kind and honest words. This is the exact kind of advice I now realise I was looking for when I posted. I will handle it as delicately as possible. It has to be a conversation about both of us, not just my thoughts/needs/concerns.
He says things to me all the time like 'if you ever left me my life would be absolutely sh*t' ' I couldn't live without you' 'I don't have anyone but you' etc etc. It makes me feel so awful. Though I don't think he would be alone for long if we separated. He is very much someone who needs to be in a relationship and I'm not, I get by quite nicely when single....though could be different in my 30's, who knows. I just know we both deserve to feel content and happy in life and love.[/quote]
It's just hit me that he realises exactly how you feel, is desperate not to lose you, so is being manipulative. "If I make her feel guilty, she won't leave me".

Marriedmiserably · 10/08/2021 15:20

@BabyBiker if he is doing this I think it's a subconscious behaviour. He is honestly the nicest man in the world. He has his bad points as do we all, but I know he would never hurt me or try to manipulate me on a conscious level.

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Shuffleuplove · 10/08/2021 15:32

Saying about how shit his life would be without you IS manipulative. And from everything you’ve written, he’s focussed on getting his emotional needs met whilst simultaneously plodding along in a marriage that makes his wife cringe to her guts. That’s not a “nice” man. In fact it’s not a man at all, it’s a big man-child. Bleurgh.

TheFoundations · 10/08/2021 15:43

if you ever left me my life would be absolutely sht*

This is manipulation, as is telling you how much he fancies you and then asking you if you feel the same.

I wonder if the sexual attraction has diminished unexpectedly because you're being subtly manipulated without realising? It's a big big turn off, having someone do that to you.

BasicDad · 10/08/2021 16:00

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Notnowkate · 10/08/2021 16:09

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I am surprised they aren't calling him abusive yet Grin
MakemeaCake · 10/08/2021 16:20

@Notnowkate You seem to be enjoying speaking to the in ways that will upset her.

Why?

If you cant be supportive maybe step back?

MakemeaCake · 10/08/2021 16:22

[quote Marriedmiserably]@BabyBiker if he is doing this I think it's a subconscious behaviour. He is honestly the nicest man in the world. He has his bad points as do we all, but I know he would never hurt me or try to manipulate me on a conscious level. [/quote]
It's been obvious all along that he is seeking reassurance and also using blackmail to try to make you love him OP.

He might not call it blackmail in his head, but that's what it is.

Browniecream · 10/08/2021 16:26

@Marriedmiserably - I just want to say I know exactly how you feel. I don’t have any advice because I’m in a similar position myself.

Notnowkate · 10/08/2021 16:27

[quote MakemeaCake]@Notnowkate You seem to be enjoying speaking to the in ways that will upset her.

Why?

If you cant be supportive maybe step back?[/quote]
I'm supportive of the husband. You are not.

Why?

If you are biased maybe step back?

Marriedmiserably · 10/08/2021 16:29

Hi @MakemeaCake - maybe I'm just too close to see it?
Don't worry about notnowkate - it doesn't upset me, obviously just a sad person who needs to get a rise out of people. Intrigued as to what basicdad said to make MNHQ remove his comment before I even had a change to read it though 🙈

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me4real · 10/08/2021 17:06

Sorry to hijack your post OP but @MajorTomBola if your H needs to use ADs to help make him into the person you want him to be, it's time to leave.

@MakemeaCake I have bipolar and have to take medication for my health and also probably to help other people be able to tolerate me (apart from twats who would take advantage of me ). It makes no difference, it's just a pill I have to take and then I'm ok most of the time. It' s treated and so no longer an issue. Having a health problem you treat (like others treat their asthma, diabetes etc) doesn't necessarily mean you have a character flaw. That's quite nasty. Should everyone with any health problem be binned? That'd be everyone binned at some point, then.

I don't mean any of this to apply to your husband @Marriedmiserably . If he's a whiny wuss he is probably a whiny wuss, if he's been like it long term. If you chose the name 'married miserably' then that's your anwer right there. No one should spend their life that way. xx

Marriedmiserably · 10/08/2021 17:10

@Browniecream sorry you are feeling this way too 💛

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MakemeaCake · 10/08/2021 17:14

@me4real Sorry but you have misunderstood what I wrote. Read what that poster said again. I would not for a minute criticise anyone for using medication.

me4real · 10/08/2021 17:22

he will grab at me and touch me when I'm in the kitchen doing the dinner for example and I just think 'oh get off!'

@Marriedmiserably That's sexual assault. Do you tell him to stop it? (Not that he should be doing it anyway.) No wonder you're turned off.

when I am horny, he should be the one I want and that's just not the case

@Marriedmiserably Is there anyone in particular youu think of?

it's awful isn't it? Like I feel like he would just be a she'll of a man if I left him.

He'll be ok, he'll have to get a grip so he will. My dad did once he didnt have my mum to be his mummy/unpaid psychiatric nurse anymore. If he needs to turn to services then he can. It'd help him be more elf-sufficient rather than relying on family to do professionals' job for free. Yes we should be supportive to our loved ones, but there are limits to what we should have to do.

'if you ever left me my life would be absolutely sh*t' ' I couldn't live without you'

That is manipulative as others have said. It's not something to say to someone.

I'm supportive of the husband. You are not. Why? If you are biased maybe step back?

@Notnowkate It's not the husband here asking for support and advice. Go on Dadsnet or whatever if you want to help with that, or answer the posts we get here from blokes sometimes.

@MakemeaCake That's how it looks.

Heatherjayne1972 · 10/08/2021 19:44

Didn’t read all the thread
But it sounds like the ‘ick’. You can’t un ick

You need to set him free.

He will be alright as will you. And you can co parent separately- lots do

Browniecream · 10/08/2021 19:45

Thanks @Marriedmiserably, I think with me it’s built up resentment from past problems. I don’t feel he meets my needs and as a result I don’t feel that urge to be close or intimate with him. We are also so different as people, having met when we were much younger, so those differences are now starting to show. It’s difficult isn’t it!

Marineboy67 · 10/08/2021 20:45

Perhaps he should read this thread and help put it all in perspective.

Whatdirection · 11/08/2021 09:34

Dear Op (and all other posters in similar positions)

I think you sound very kind and caring. You continually praise your DH. I see nothing wrong in your reasons to marry him ) it grew from friendship and there was a spark, you valued his good qualities.

I have recently come out of a 27 year relationship with a very similar sounding man. It fell apart when unbelievably he confessed to some historic cheating, l pulled away from him and he fell apart, his anxiety ramped up to co-erciveness and l began to feel unsafe.

My journey has involved immense self reflection and although lonely and painful, it has been a time of huge personal growth.

Your husband’s neediness, insecurity, jealousy are very difficult qualities to live with and essentially have made it impossible for the two of you to have a healthy relationship. You have been propping him up for years and this will have been exhausting for you.

On my journey, l have moved from stating that my STBXH didn’t have a manipulative bone in his body to realizing that he is one of the most manipulative and controlling people l have ever met. So much of it was covert and under the radar and very effectively disguised by his ‘good guy’ qualities.

Guilting and shaming someone and pushing the responsibility onto someone else are very manipulative acts. When we do it we are often not aware of it and it is not often a planned response, but a response from childhood trauma and unresolved hurts.

As other posters have said, you are not responsible for his feelings.

You will need to spend time reflecting on the choices you have made in the relationship. You may find it helpful to do this with a counsellor.

Two books l have read that have been immensely helpful are;

‘Out of the Fog’ by Dana Morningstar - although the focus of the book is on narcissistic abuse, it is incredibly helpful in sorting out what is and what isn’t problematic behaviour. I had many lightbulb moments reading this and it made me realise that certain behaviours that l didn’t have a problem with were in fact real red flags.

Also ‘ How to do the Work’ by Dr Nicole Le Pera. This is a personal self growth book that gets you to examine your own patterns, traumas, responses and guides you to make more mature choices in your own life.

Also Lundy Bancroft in ‘ Why does he do that’ writes about a profile of a needy sensitive man who makes you responsible for their choices.

I think you feel very strongly he is an incredibly kind and lovely man. This may well be true but you need to spend some time looking at the part of him that is very selfish. It might take a number of months to work through this.

Take your time. you can start doing it from within the relationship. You don’t need to make any decisions right now.

QuentinBunbury · 11/08/2021 10:41

On my journey, l have moved from stating that my STBXH didn’t have a manipulative bone in his body to realizing that he is one of the most manipulative and controlling people l have ever met. So much of it was covert and under the radar and very effectively disguised by his ‘good guy’ qualities.
Same. Such a good point.
That's why I picked up on the sex op - was in a very similar position and felt guilty about why I didn't want sex with my husband as much as he did- took counselling to realise that how he expressed that want was disrespectful of my needs or boundaries (groping me when my hands were full, turning any affection from me sexual so I couldn't just show relaxed affection, e.g. a kiss was turned into a snog was turned into sex unless I explicitly said no, then he'd feel rejected and I'd feel guilty).
When your needs and boundaries are constantly ignored you aren't going to feel secure and for lots of people you need to feel secure and loved to want sex.

Blueskytoday06 · 11/08/2021 12:35

OP, so thinking hypothetically, say you split.....are you ok to not have your DD full time and there potentially being another woman in her life ? I am in no way committing you to current situation but I don't hear anywhere in the thread (unless I missed it) that you have considered the ramifications. Honest no judgement as people split up all the time and the world doesn't end. He and you can and will (if you choose) be able to move on successfully.

Itstimetoquit · 11/08/2021 16:20

This happened to me in my 12 years into my marriage,the feelings just changed for me I can't explain why because I don't know. We had 2 children together but I knew I had to tell him, he wouldn't except it at all so I tried to make it work and stayed for another 5 years. It eventually ended when we were sleeping in separate bedrooms,he came into my room one night trying it on and I couldn't do it anymore I packed my stuff and left that night got my own place with the kids,he was heartbroken for months and i felt so guilty! He is now happily remarried ,talk to him op x

Sillawithans · 11/08/2021 16:39

The poor guy, my heart goes out to him.
His life will only get better and better if you leave him. He will have great sex with a woman who does want to rip his clothes off, 50/50 contact with his child. After a few months his life will massively improve.
Do the decent thing and let him go.