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Lovely husband versus different life with friend – what to do?

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KormasABitch · 20/07/2021 13:33

Apologies for the long post, I will try not to dripfeed.

I have a lovely husband, let’s call him Pete. We’ve been together almost a decade. He’s devoted to me, endlessly kind; nothing is too much trouble. A few years ago, we moved to a country where, unfortunately, he can’t get work (I’m OK as I work online). We’re planning to move elsewhere. In the meantime, he does all the shopping and cooking, chops wood for the fire, etc. We get on brilliantly and have none of the irritations I associate even with close friendships. We have the same tastes in music, films etc and often enjoy lovely weekends away doing things together like hiking or cycling. We never get bored with each other’s company.

Pete’s quite a bit younger than me, which hasn’t worried us over the years because as far as we’re concerned, being incredibly compatible is so lucky that it outweighs everything. However, one snag is our difference in life experience. He’s used to renting a place, and I’m not sure he’ll ever be what I’d call a responsible home owner. General maintenance etc doesn’t seem to occur to him, and I don’t want to be a nag, but find the overall neglect depressing when I’m so busy. He covers the basics, but anything else is a bit like pushing water uphill.

None of this might have mattered had it not been for life throwing me a curve ball.

My oldest friend, “John” (we’ve known each other 20-odd years), got divorced a couple of years ago. I helped him through the emotional process. We’ve always been close (despite him living in another country), but I suppose that brought us a bit closer for a while. I never thought much of it when he left his wife, but over the past couple of years we have exchanged friendly (not flirtatious!) messages and sometimes I find myself pining for the kind of life I could have with him. Over the years, we’ve had some great adventures together (when married to other people, so we never acknowledged or acted on the chemistry that was there), we have a good laugh, we understand each other well, and we have the same values. Pete, for example, can’t be bothered with family and I wish he made more effort to know my parents, who won’t be around for much longer; whereas I know John would connect well.

I am approaching retirement age and financial security has become more important to me than it once was. I hate to admit it, but combining forces with someone who has worked as hard as me is also appealing.

This is all churning round and round in my head, and I feel ridiculous. I don’t want to discuss it with anyone IRL, but would appreciate any input here. I hate feeling even a smidgen of disloyalty to Pete, because I adore him. It feels as though my priorities in life might be shifting somewhat, but maybe I’m just doing that “grass greener” thing and should just STFU.

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KormasABitch · 20/07/2021 16:16

Thanks for your message, I am slightly reeling and punch-drunk, but get why you're saying stuff. It's my first thread, so it's made me realise how little can be conveyed in a few posts. There are massive gaps for me to fill in here and misconceptions to be set straight, I am not sure I would ever catch up on it and I'd be exhausted trying! I might save my typing for the posts that resonate more with what's actually going on here, or I'd have no fingers left.

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KormasABitch · 20/07/2021 16:16

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OhtheVulgarity · 20/07/2021 16:17

@StarryStarrySocks

I want to know what country this is where there are no work opportunities for a man in early middle age (?) and yet an endless supply of firewood is needed...
I suppose it could be a visa issue, or a language one, if Pete doesn't speak the local language, maybe? Though the internet enables remote work, as for the OP -- even my monumentally idle nephew has been teaching English to Chinese or Korean kids via Skype over lockdown.
ScribblingPixie · 20/07/2021 16:17

This is crazy talk. If you don't want to be married to Pete any more then you should be planning to be single. The John stuff is just daydreaming about an escape route & frankly reads like nonsense.

ShouldersBackChestOutChinUp · 20/07/2021 16:18

Even if you get with John and dump Pete, how do you know you'll be more secure financially? John will want to keep his assets and wealth separate. As will you?

I'd talk to Pete. Tell him what you're worried about. Don't mention John.

AmyDudley · 20/07/2021 16:19

Freshly divorced Horny John who heroically stuck with his wife though her 4 pregnancies is probably eyeing up hot 35 years old Lauren from accounts

Or running round his house salivating and humping the furniture, possibly unaware that his extreme horniness and dreadful taste in music is catnip to married women.

Terhou · 20/07/2021 16:22

Why did you and Pete move to a country where he couldn’t work?

Well that's a very good question isn't it. Because we didn't realise till we got here.

So why did you stay?

Bryonyshcmyony · 20/07/2021 16:24

You didn't realise he wouldn't be able to work until you got there?

SteveArnottsWaistcoat · 20/07/2021 16:25

You obviously aren’t happy. If you were would wouldn’t be considering ditching your husband for another man.

Your marriage obviously isn’t something of great importance to you by the way you speak. Give Your husband a chance to be happy, I think he deserves it.

Then do whatever you want with your limerence friend.

Horehound · 20/07/2021 16:26

I think Pete sounds nice!

This is all a big fantasy you've rolled up in your mind, it is not real life.

SixesAndEights · 20/07/2021 16:26

I kind of lived with him day to day for 6 weeks at one point, and we've done camping/diving trips etc together over the years. I have a pretty good idea of who he is.

This is nonsense OP. Six weeks of living with someone and trips do not give you an idea of what someone is like living with them daily for years.

I too think it's a greener grass situation. If you want to leave Pete then do that without dragging John into it. If you just want to swap one for another I'd suggest that wasn't the best plan in the world.

KormasABitch · 20/07/2021 16:26

@Terhou

Why did you and Pete move to a country where he couldn’t work?

Well that's a very good question isn't it. Because we didn't realise till we got here.

So why did you stay?

Because we had bought a house here and it needed renovating. Which has taken a while. And now we're selling it, to move to another country where Pete can work.

But when I say we rebuilt a ruin here, what I mean is that I worked hard to pay builders to rebuild it, while Pete played computer games mostly. It was me who did the decorating and cleared out the rubbish etc. Even now, we have an estate agent coming tomorrow and the downstairs rooms are chaotic with his stuff that he promises to sort out "tomorrow" 😊

Sorry, limited time to reply to posts this afternoon so nipping in quickly between things!

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0DETTE · 20/07/2021 16:26

Is this a reverse OP? I mean are you a man planning to leave your wife?

Mydogmylife · 20/07/2021 16:28

Plenty listing of qualities of your two men - and I agree with a pp this all sounds horrifically mills and boon - but no mention of your own glaring flaws- a massive lack of loyalty and respect for Pete and an apparent illusion that John will leap on you as soon as you are free.
Get a grip

Mrsmadevans · 20/07/2021 16:28

You are living in cloud Cuckoo land OP.

SteveArnottsWaistcoat · 20/07/2021 16:28

This whole thread is very odd.

CandidaAlbicans2 · 20/07/2021 16:29

@KormasABitch, what are the reasons for staying in a country where Pete can't find work. It's unfair on him to dislike his lack of employment whilst not doing anything to help change that. You can work anywhere with internet, so why are you not discussing relocating to an area he can earn?
Oh, and forget about John, he sounds like a fantasy you've built up because you're not addressing the above issue in your marriage.

Comedycook · 20/07/2021 16:31

Pete doesn't sound too great to me... playing computer games and not interested in your family. Maybe try to find a different bloke entirely

Mydogmylife · 20/07/2021 16:31

@KormasABitch

Thanks for your message, I am slightly reeling and punch-drunk, but get why you're saying stuff. It's my first thread, so it's made me realise how little can be conveyed in a few posts. There are massive gaps for me to fill in here and misconceptions to be set straight, I am not sure I would ever catch up on it and I'd be exhausted trying! I might save my typing for the posts that resonate more with what's actually going on here, or I'd have no fingers left.
So, basically I'll pay attention to the folk that tell me what I want to hear
SixesAndEights · 20/07/2021 16:32

The trouble is that John is also that rare species, a golden man.

This is ridiculous.

Biscoffbiscou · 20/07/2021 16:34

“But when I say we rebuilt a ruin here, what I mean is that I worked hard to pay builders to rebuild it, while Pete played computer games mostly. It was me who did the decorating and cleared out the rubbish etc. Even now, we have an estate agent coming tomorrow and the downstairs rooms are chaotic with his stuff that he promises to sort out "tomorrow" 😊”

Do you think he might be somewhat demotivated by being unemployed with no prospect of work? The question would be, had he been like this the whole time you’ve known him? He held down a job before you moved, right?

TedHastingsweeDonkey · 20/07/2021 16:34

But when I say we rebuilt a ruin here, what I mean is that I worked hard to pay builders to rebuild it, while Pete played computer games mostly. It was me who did the decorating and cleared out the rubbish etc.

I thought you said he does all the shopping, cooking and wood chopping! Nothing is too much trouble, you said? Seems like you built him up in the 1st paragraph of your OP and then slowly putting him down. Thought he was awesome but you are now painting him as a lazy ass teenager?

This thread is indeed odd!

CandidaAlbicans2 · 20/07/2021 16:34

@KormasABitch, ah, that's quite a drip feed! Pete has gone from golden man to untidy, lazy gamer 🙄

TedHastingsweeDonkey · 20/07/2021 16:35

[quote CandidaAlbicans2]@KormasABitch, ah, that's quite a drip feed! Pete has gone from golden man to untidy, lazy gamer 🙄[/quote]
Thank you, exactly my thought. Poor Pete... #teampete

SixesAndEights · 20/07/2021 16:35

it would be nice for him to be pulling his weight economically too

You need to move to a country where he can do that, not bemoan the fact that he isn't doing it in a country where he can't.