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Lovely husband versus different life with friend – what to do?

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KormasABitch · 20/07/2021 13:33

Apologies for the long post, I will try not to dripfeed.

I have a lovely husband, let’s call him Pete. We’ve been together almost a decade. He’s devoted to me, endlessly kind; nothing is too much trouble. A few years ago, we moved to a country where, unfortunately, he can’t get work (I’m OK as I work online). We’re planning to move elsewhere. In the meantime, he does all the shopping and cooking, chops wood for the fire, etc. We get on brilliantly and have none of the irritations I associate even with close friendships. We have the same tastes in music, films etc and often enjoy lovely weekends away doing things together like hiking or cycling. We never get bored with each other’s company.

Pete’s quite a bit younger than me, which hasn’t worried us over the years because as far as we’re concerned, being incredibly compatible is so lucky that it outweighs everything. However, one snag is our difference in life experience. He’s used to renting a place, and I’m not sure he’ll ever be what I’d call a responsible home owner. General maintenance etc doesn’t seem to occur to him, and I don’t want to be a nag, but find the overall neglect depressing when I’m so busy. He covers the basics, but anything else is a bit like pushing water uphill.

None of this might have mattered had it not been for life throwing me a curve ball.

My oldest friend, “John” (we’ve known each other 20-odd years), got divorced a couple of years ago. I helped him through the emotional process. We’ve always been close (despite him living in another country), but I suppose that brought us a bit closer for a while. I never thought much of it when he left his wife, but over the past couple of years we have exchanged friendly (not flirtatious!) messages and sometimes I find myself pining for the kind of life I could have with him. Over the years, we’ve had some great adventures together (when married to other people, so we never acknowledged or acted on the chemistry that was there), we have a good laugh, we understand each other well, and we have the same values. Pete, for example, can’t be bothered with family and I wish he made more effort to know my parents, who won’t be around for much longer; whereas I know John would connect well.

I am approaching retirement age and financial security has become more important to me than it once was. I hate to admit it, but combining forces with someone who has worked as hard as me is also appealing.

This is all churning round and round in my head, and I feel ridiculous. I don’t want to discuss it with anyone IRL, but would appreciate any input here. I hate feeling even a smidgen of disloyalty to Pete, because I adore him. It feels as though my priorities in life might be shifting somewhat, but maybe I’m just doing that “grass greener” thing and should just STFU.

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Fireflygal · 20/07/2021 14:53

You are married (2nd time?)

Your husband sounds as if he isn't materialistic. Will he ever be able to find work?

However it does however feel like you have had your head turned and believe grass is greener.

If you are not happy with your husband, try to change it. If you can't then divorce, but I guess that means you'll have less money after a divorce.

Only then consider another man. It is so disrespectful to treat your husband like an object that isn't functioning very well.

KormasABitch · 20/07/2021 14:53

Ah sorry

"Why did you and Pete move to a country where he couldn’t work?"

Well that's a very good question isn't it. Because we didn't realise till we got here.

I think you can tell I'm not very good at planning ahead 😁

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Bryonyshcmyony · 20/07/2021 14:53

Is Pete actually a labrador?

HaveringWavering · 20/07/2021 14:54

@KormasABitch

Ah sorry

"Why did you and Pete move to a country where he couldn’t work?"

Well that's a very good question isn't it. Because we didn't realise till we got here.

I think you can tell I'm not very good at planning ahead 😁

OK, so why did you stay?
Whiskycav · 20/07/2021 14:54

Honestly, I definitely wouldn't stick with Pete.

He doesn't sound like a partner. He sounds like someone you have taken on responsibility for.

Regardless of the other man. Your husband doesn't sound like the man for you.

I would end the marriage. Not for the other man. I would just plan on being single and see what happens further down the line.

minipie · 20/07/2021 14:55

Whose idea was it to move to a country where you can work but he can’t? If it was your idea/a joint one it seems a bit harsh to now blame him for having been less financially successful.

minipie · 20/07/2021 14:55

I feel rather sorry for Pete tbh

minipie · 20/07/2021 14:56

Ah sorry cross posted.

Yes the obvious question was why did you stay once you realised he couldn’t work there. Again seems unfair to blame him.

KormasABitch · 20/07/2021 14:56

@minipie

Whose idea was it to move to a country where you can work but he can’t? If it was your idea/a joint one it seems a bit harsh to now blame him for having been less financially successful.
I don't blame him at all!

My plan is to wait and see how we get on in the next country. In the meantime I have these ideas buzzing round my head and wanted to air them here as there is no way I would do it IRL.

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KormasABitch · 20/07/2021 14:56

@Bryonyshcmyony

Is Pete actually a labrador?
No, he's awesome.
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minipie · 20/07/2021 14:57

You’re right blame is the wrong word. More like “see it as a negative of him”

Bryonyshcmyony · 20/07/2021 14:58

What job does he do thst there is no work in a particular country? Is he a volcanologist or something?!

StarryStarrySocks · 20/07/2021 14:58

It's just a wee bit arrogant to assume that John would actually want to be with you. If you don't want to be with Pete, leave him. But on the basis that you would be happy on your own if no future relationship with John ever materialised.

Bryonyshcmyony · 20/07/2021 15:00

And sorry but why on earth would you think John's kids would accept you as a mother figure?

AlternativePerspective · 20/07/2021 15:00

Thing is, it’s fine to leave a marriage because it’s just not working for you any more.

The instant you bring another man into the equation you’re leaving him for an OM.

And the “it’s just not working/I feel like I’m the one doing everything” is the classic script that most people use to justify leaving their marriages for someone else.

I wonder if, when the OP tells him that she’s leaving him for another man, Pete will realise that his marriage was unhappy or whether he will suddenly feel that the OP has brought out all his faults as a justification.

Whiskycav · 20/07/2021 15:01

So youvare thinking of moving your husband again (how employable is he after not working for a while) in the hope he gets a job and starts doing DIY

All the while, in your head you are contemplating leaving him for someone else?

ravelston · 20/07/2021 15:02

* "He was very very young when she got pregnant, and then he stuck with her through four pregnancies, supported her and the family brilliantly, and now the kids are grown up"
*
What an awful thing to say, is that your impression that he "stuck" with her or what he has said. If it's what he has said he's an absolute arse of a man. In order to have 4 children he was doing a lot more than sticking with her.

BrozTito · 20/07/2021 15:03

You want to be the kids new mummy? This is bloody mental

SirGawain · 20/07/2021 15:04

The trouble is that John is also that rare species, a golden man.

If this is true why is he divorced. You’re on a hiding to nothing.

Converse72 · 20/07/2021 15:04

Have you seriously considered that the things you find desirable in John aren't necessarily what he's looking for in a relationship. I very much doubt a divorcee approaching retirement who had just binned off his wife after the kids flew the nest is looking for another wife to look after and take care of. I don't think he can really offer you the security you desire.

AlternativePerspective · 20/07/2021 15:04

“I’ve been married to my DH for a while now. He’s a bit older than me. Anyway, we moved to a country where it transpired that I wasn’t able to work, but as he was able to we stayed here. Now he’s telling me he wants to leave me for another woman, and he says that our marriage isn’t working. That the fact I don’t have a job and don’t do certain things around the house has turned him off me.”

How do you Think posters would respond to that?

ittakes2 · 20/07/2021 15:06

You seem to be looking at your affairs of the heart like a business transaction! Weighing up the pros and cons....quite frankly I am not sure either men are right for you if you don't feel like you are clear on who you want to spend the rest of your life with.

TulipVictory · 20/07/2021 15:06

All I can say is I feel sorry for Pete.

OhtheVulgarity · 20/07/2021 15:08

Pete sounds like a glorified pet

Agreed, but I think it's also significant that the OP presumably pioneered the move to a country where Peter couldn't work, which to an extent puts him in the 'passenger' role in their marriage, when she's explicitly said she would prefer someone who would 'take care of her' economically. When then move somewhere where circumstances mean that's impossible, if the OP can work remotely from anywhere? The OP says she wants someone who's an economic 'adult' like her father and brothers in terms of priorities, but has prevented Pete being able to do that.

And unless the OP's parents live in the same country as she and Pete do, it's not really Pete's fault he doesn't know them that well...?

But I think the whole John thing is weirdly arbitrary, if he's only once jokingly made a reference to being married to the OP in an alternative universe the OP has no idea whether leaving Pete for John is a viable life option, or anything John would want. Maybe he only views her as a reliable friend. A longterm male friend of mine once made reference to the 'chemistry' between us and I was taken aback and mildly horrified, as I have always thought of him as a brother and was completely unaware of this 'chemistry', which was in his mind only.

And also, as a pp suggested, it's significant that the OP seems to view John as a reluctant passenger in his own marriage and bringing up of four children.

OP, a question imagine you tell Pete you're leaving. You run straight to John and declare you're ready to explore the alternative universe of life together. He looks at you strangely and says 'What?' You say 'Remember you said ?' He says 'God, I must have been drunk! I'd never even consider wrecking our friendship! By the way, I must introduce you to Linda. I've just started seeing her, and she's fabulous!'

What does this make you feel? No John, no Pete?

Greenmarmalade · 20/07/2021 15:09

You say he doesn’t take care of you, but: he does all the shopping and cooking, chops wood for the fire, etc. We get on brilliantly and have none of the irritations I associate even with close friendships. We have the same tastes in music, films etc and often enjoy lovely weekends away doing things together like hiking or cycling. We never get bored with each other’s company.

He absolutely does take care of you!

You have committed to a marriage with Pete and want to throw it away for what?

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