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Lovely husband versus different life with friend – what to do?

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KormasABitch · 20/07/2021 13:33

Apologies for the long post, I will try not to dripfeed.

I have a lovely husband, let’s call him Pete. We’ve been together almost a decade. He’s devoted to me, endlessly kind; nothing is too much trouble. A few years ago, we moved to a country where, unfortunately, he can’t get work (I’m OK as I work online). We’re planning to move elsewhere. In the meantime, he does all the shopping and cooking, chops wood for the fire, etc. We get on brilliantly and have none of the irritations I associate even with close friendships. We have the same tastes in music, films etc and often enjoy lovely weekends away doing things together like hiking or cycling. We never get bored with each other’s company.

Pete’s quite a bit younger than me, which hasn’t worried us over the years because as far as we’re concerned, being incredibly compatible is so lucky that it outweighs everything. However, one snag is our difference in life experience. He’s used to renting a place, and I’m not sure he’ll ever be what I’d call a responsible home owner. General maintenance etc doesn’t seem to occur to him, and I don’t want to be a nag, but find the overall neglect depressing when I’m so busy. He covers the basics, but anything else is a bit like pushing water uphill.

None of this might have mattered had it not been for life throwing me a curve ball.

My oldest friend, “John” (we’ve known each other 20-odd years), got divorced a couple of years ago. I helped him through the emotional process. We’ve always been close (despite him living in another country), but I suppose that brought us a bit closer for a while. I never thought much of it when he left his wife, but over the past couple of years we have exchanged friendly (not flirtatious!) messages and sometimes I find myself pining for the kind of life I could have with him. Over the years, we’ve had some great adventures together (when married to other people, so we never acknowledged or acted on the chemistry that was there), we have a good laugh, we understand each other well, and we have the same values. Pete, for example, can’t be bothered with family and I wish he made more effort to know my parents, who won’t be around for much longer; whereas I know John would connect well.

I am approaching retirement age and financial security has become more important to me than it once was. I hate to admit it, but combining forces with someone who has worked as hard as me is also appealing.

This is all churning round and round in my head, and I feel ridiculous. I don’t want to discuss it with anyone IRL, but would appreciate any input here. I hate feeling even a smidgen of disloyalty to Pete, because I adore him. It feels as though my priorities in life might be shifting somewhat, but maybe I’m just doing that “grass greener” thing and should just STFU.

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Roussette · 25/07/2021 10:20

Having found my way out of that (the bravest and most difficult thing I've ever done), I feel it is my duty to build a ladder for other women who are in that situation, to help them climb out of it

Loving this Korma. I don't need that ladder but for those that do... just great.

Make sure we know how to get hold of the book! Smile

grapewine · 25/07/2021 10:21

I'm just realising I arrived very late to this. Nevmind.

KormasABitch · 25/07/2021 10:24

@Cavagirl
Ah... honestly, thanks for trying, but I don't care if I'm outed. Even by the Daily Fail, although they won't be interested because I have no social media account with fake boobs!

And Pete is Russian. I might as well say so.
I can recommend Russian men. The good ones. Obviously you have to be a bit selective, see vid.

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CraftyYankee · 25/07/2021 10:33

@whatkindofdaughter

Ah, okay- that explains a lot :)

You sound in a much better place than you were in the past.

It's easy for nuances to go AWOL in threads like this.

I do think you need to chat seriously to P and discuss the money issues and make sure you are both on the same page re. your future.

And get yourself a hot financial advisor! It's struck me that if you can sae £50K pa now that the work is done on your house, you have a good income but maybe money-management isn't a strength? Meaning that kindly, because it would have made sense to use your earnings to re-build your home rather than spend your pension pot.

I'm sending you a PM about something else anyway :)

Nooo, not a hot financial advisor! That's what started this problem in the first place! 🤣🤣😎
FittedSheet · 25/07/2021 10:34

Dammit, now I have to completely reinvent my mental image of Pete! (Who was, in my book, of African heritage, though born and grew up elsewhere, and looked exactly like Omar Sy from Lupin.) 😀

KormasABitch · 25/07/2021 10:38

Hahaaaaaa @CraftyYankee and @FittedSheet!!!!!!!

No, Russian. And hot!!! 😍

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ChristmasShearwater · 25/07/2021 11:49

Russian??!!

No, I'd pictured John to be Mel Gibson in Tim

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Lovely husband versus different life with friend – what to do?
ChristmasShearwater · 25/07/2021 11:50

Not John, Pete - whoever the woodchopper is

ChristmasShearwater · 25/07/2021 11:51

And OP is Piper Laurie - Tim's older wife

KormasABitch · 25/07/2021 11:55

@ChristmasShearwater

Russian??!!

No, I'd pictured John to be Mel Gibson in Tim

he looks super-tiny in that 2nd photo! 😃
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whichwayisup · 25/07/2021 12:00

I had pictured a Romanian Pete and I had pictured you both living in northern Portugal. So I was a little bit right.

You should definitely start a blog. I don't feel ready to say goodbye yet😥

KormasABitch · 25/07/2021 12:02

@whichwayisup

I had pictured a Romanian Pete and I had pictured you both living in northern Portugal. So I was a little bit right.

You should definitely start a blog. I don't feel ready to say goodbye yet😥

Awwwww 🤗
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SorryWoman · 25/07/2021 12:05

I had pictured Pete being from an African country and you guys living in the Australian outback 🤭

KormasABitch · 25/07/2021 12:09

@SorryWoman

I had pictured Pete being from an African country and you guys living in the Australian outback 🤭
It's funny to get your mental images!

I don't have time to write a blog. I barely have time to write the book! I'm working again today, or at least I should be, instead of poking my nose in here every 5 minutes. I will now sellotape my nose back onto that grindstone! Enjoy your weekend!

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ChristmasShearwater · 25/07/2021 12:29

he looks super-tiny in that 2nd photo!

Damn - I was trying to screen shot from the video! Have a watch and let us know if you are Piper Laurie, OP.

KormasABitch · 25/07/2021 12:42

Someone shoot me, by way of revenge I can't resist posting this image (from the picture on the wall) of what Pete thinks I look like.

I bloody well wish I did!!! 🤣

Right. Nose + sellotape + grindstone.

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KormasABitch · 25/07/2021 12:42

Cross-posted, @ChristmasShearwater.

The image above looks a bit like I did when I was younger. But with a certain amount of idealisation 😉

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KormasABitch · 25/07/2021 13:41

... and "Pete" is closer to image #1 than #2 or #3, in case you were wondering!

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KormasABitch · 25/07/2021 13:42

and not like these, either

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Lovely husband versus different life with friend – what to do?
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FittedSheet · 25/07/2021 13:42

She’s kind of bland and wallpaper-y, @KormasABitch. I’m sure you’re more characterful. She looks like the type who’d whisper ‘I don’t mind’ to anything, rather than someone who impulsively moves countries, and buys ruins with Russian toy boys who faced down slave gangmasters. 😀

One thing I wanted to ask you was about something you said in a recent post — that when you moved in with Pete first, neither of you thought the relationship had any future at all — you thought he’d be off after someone his own age, and he thought you’d prefer someone more like you. I can entirely understand that at the stage of first dating, but most people don’t move in together thinking the relationship has zero future. What was going on in both your heads?

KormasABitch · 25/07/2021 13:49

@FittedSheet
That "no future" thing was in the first stages of dating, lasted about a year. Then the penny dropped. Then we moved in together, got married, and did all the crazy shit that came next!

I don't think "toy" or "boy" describe him very well 😉

I'm not doing very well with the grindstone. I'm going to close this page and try not to peek again!

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WhiskeyGalore212 · 25/07/2021 14:15

He was very very young when she got pregnant, and then he stuck with her through four pregnancies, supported her ..

GrinGrinGrinGrin

What a fkg Saint. Is the Vatican aware of this paragon?

WhiskeyGalore212 · 25/07/2021 14:17

She didn't get pregnant, he got her pregnant.. and then did it three more times.

Supported her?

This feels like a piss take bit sadly isn't.

WhiskeyGalore212 · 25/07/2021 14:37

I'm puzzled about how you're going to be better off financially if you dump your Russian toy boy; aren't you married?

Wouldn't he get a shot at half your assets?

WhiskeyGalore212 · 25/07/2021 14:42

Aside from that, you're talking a though a relationship with John is an option but that doesn't even seem to be certain.

He has to actually made any definite overtures (?)

I'm afraid divorced men, especially those who are relatively well heeled, often get lots of opportunities with younger women, of whom there are more not married etc abd they often take those opportunities.

Him staying in contact and enjoying a friendship is very different from him choosing you as his next serious partner, as is assuming that because his kids like you as his friend/acquaintance, that they'd be happy and welcoming to you as a serious partner, and have you as their second mum etc.

You sound like you're in fantasy land about the whole thing.

From his marriage background, to his optuons and choices going forward etc