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Partner just admitted he doesn't want to be with me

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junglebook123 · 18/07/2021 20:17

Myself and my partner have been together 4 years, finally saved up enough for a deposit for a house (we've been renting for 3). Last year has been tough (as it has for everyone) and I've felt a bit unhappy. He is so up and down. One minute he's telling me how much he loves me and wants us to be together and how great the future will be etc. And the next I literally can't get a word out of him.

I've been addressing this for the entire year, asking him if I've done something wrong, does he not love me anymore, telling him that it's affecting my life and making me not want to commit to a mortgage if he's not going to speak to me (obviously!). He tells me I'm crazy.

When we're out he will be totally normal with me and speak to me but as soon as we get home, nothing. Every time I speak to him I can see I'm annoying him, simple things like "how was work" can make him roll his eyes! Trouble is, because of how crazy he makes me feel, I kept wondering am I crazy should I just keep trying see if he comes back to me?!

Anyway, I've told him I'm not going to continue looking for a home with him whilst things are how they are and actually that I think we either need a break - or even just a conversation about what's going on but with him refusing to communicate that's off the cards!! - and he's totally ignored me.

He will sit in a different room in the house and message me houses and tell me to put an offer in, he's been going to viewings etc.

Anyway, today when we got home from a meal with my parents (where he acted totally normal) we came home and I waited to see if he'd speak to me and he didn't, so I asked what his problem was and he told me I was deluded and there's no problem etc.

Then after I didn't drop it (much to his annoyance and lots of eye rolling!) he told me "I just want to get a mortgage for the future and neither of us can get one on our own".

Now I realise if you've stuck to this point you probably think I'm completely naive and dense, but I can't explain how much he's made me feel like a loonatic for thinking something was wrong. As if I really was making it all up and I'd lost it - and now this.

So he genuinely thinks we're gonna get a mortgage and continue living like this - he's no intention of us splitting he just wants us to commit to this and essentially not speak?

I don't really have a question to be honest I'm just a bit blown away by how far/long he's gone with this and cross that he's constantly being saying I'm crazy and I need help for questioning him.

I'm not upset, I've cried a lot over the last year about it so I think I've got nothing left - and I think I already knew we'd not move forward together because of how miserable it had become so I'm genuinely just angry.

If anything I suppose I should be happy he's finally been honest and now we can shut the door... but for now I think I'm just gonna be cross for the time wasting and "you need help" comments!

(Most boring thread ever, apologies I needed to vent).

OP posts:
junglebook123 · 19/07/2021 13:42

Things not good today. He's completely ignored me and gone to my parents telling them I've all of a sudden decided it's over and now they're convinced I'm being unreasonable and unkind.

I've tried to explain but not having much luck.

I'd planned to go and stay there today and now I don't even want to.

My dad has even mentioned giving him some money to get a deposit ready to rent somewhere else!!

I'm just sat here having a little cry to be honest. Will speak to parents in person and I'm sure they'll understand eventually, but I feel extremely betrayed that he's done this. I've been nothing but clear about how I feel for a long time, this isn't out of the blue and it's also largely because he admitted he's not into it himself!!

If it wasn't for this thread I'd honestly think I'd lost my marbles 😓

OP posts:
crochetmonkey74 · 19/07/2021 13:44

If it wasn't for this thread I'd honestly think I'd lost my marbles

Hang on to this OP - he sounds like hes gaslighting you

saraclara · 19/07/2021 13:47

I can't believe that your parents are sympathising with him! Please talk to them soon. They can't possibly have got the real story.

HappyStep1 · 19/07/2021 13:50

Be very clear with your parents that the relationship is over. You no longer want to be in a relationship with him and any money they suggest he could have will not be of any benefit to you.
You may need to find a new rental asap if they are pressing this, start looking today!
Keep the anger, you'll need it to get through the next few weeks Flowers

DamsonJammyBastard · 19/07/2021 13:55

he went running to your parents because the mean lady he's using for her mortgage potential got wise to his shit?

what a pissy little loser.

QueenBee52 · 19/07/2021 13:55

@junglebook123

Things not good today. He's completely ignored me and gone to my parents telling them I've all of a sudden decided it's over and now they're convinced I'm being unreasonable and unkind.

I've tried to explain but not having much luck.

I'd planned to go and stay there today and now I don't even want to.

My dad has even mentioned giving him some money to get a deposit ready to rent somewhere else!!

I'm just sat here having a little cry to be honest. Will speak to parents in person and I'm sure they'll understand eventually, but I feel extremely betrayed that he's done this. I've been nothing but clear about how I feel for a long time, this isn't out of the blue and it's also largely because he admitted he's not into it himself!!

If it wasn't for this thread I'd honestly think I'd lost my marbles 😓

what a manipulative little bastard ...

you must explain the financial ball and chain he is to your parents and quick smart before your Dad hands over any cash 😱

Im shocked at how manipulating he is ... APPALLING

OP you do what keeps You financially safe 🌸

Justilou1 · 19/07/2021 13:55

Omg, he’s so manipulative!!! Just call your dad and tell him not to give him any money!!!

WhereYouLeftIt · 19/07/2021 14:05

@junglebook123

Things not good today. He's completely ignored me and gone to my parents telling them I've all of a sudden decided it's over and now they're convinced I'm being unreasonable and unkind.

I've tried to explain but not having much luck.

I'd planned to go and stay there today and now I don't even want to.

My dad has even mentioned giving him some money to get a deposit ready to rent somewhere else!!

I'm just sat here having a little cry to be honest. Will speak to parents in person and I'm sure they'll understand eventually, but I feel extremely betrayed that he's done this. I've been nothing but clear about how I feel for a long time, this isn't out of the blue and it's also largely because he admitted he's not into it himself!!

If it wasn't for this thread I'd honestly think I'd lost my marbles 😓

And there was me thinking I was catastrophising Sad

"It says to me that he absolutely knows what he is doing. He actively hides his behaviour in front of others, presenting them with a false facade. He wants his parents to think you're a nutter so that they'll back him over you. He wants your parents to think he's normal, presumably because he thinks your parents would do a 'but he's so nice!' routine when you tell them you're ditching him - another version of they'll back him over you."

I'd suggest you point out to them that they have NO IDEA of what has been going on behind closed doors. And that you are their daughter, and it troubles you that they would rather you stayed with someone who was "unreasonable and unkind" to you than accept what you have been subjected to OUT OF THEIR SIGHT.

If I was feeling particularly annoyed, I might speculate out loud that maybe their attitude that you should put up and shut up with such horrible behaviour might have played a part in you putting up with it for as long as you did. OK, I probably wouldn't say it to them, you want to get them behind you - but damn it, I'd be thinking it!

Much as you like your rented place and landlord, I wouldn't sign a new tenancy. You need your next place to have no taint of him. Plus, if you stayed, you are handing him the 'she threw me out of my home!' on a plate - and he will use it against you, big time. Don't give yourself more problems than you have to. You are already seeing how he is able to manipulate others, you don't need the extra work.

Stress to your parents the 'behind closed doors' thing. That he's Jekyll and Hyde; one person when being observed by others, quite another when alone with you. Point out he only wants you financially, and that's no basis for a relationship. And yes, stress your disappointment with them, that they would take his word over yours.

Paddling654 · 19/07/2021 14:07

What a dangerous person he is.

Ignore your parents' response to him. You have to hope they will come around.

Move out, cut ties as much as you can, as quickly as you can. A narcissist like this will not allow you to leave without doing as much damage as possible. Do not sit there giving him time to do more.

Sit down with your parents and tell them how unhappy you've been and how manipulative he is. Explain that what they see is a mask and he doesn't even answer you when you speak to him. That it has made you bitterly unhappy and feeling like you're going mad, and you've realised this is a kind of emotional abuse that is making you very unhappy. Then get yourself a new tenancy as quickly as you can.

Maxiedog123 · 19/07/2021 14:09

It is a bit worrying that he has been happy for the house savings to be in your account. It might be just because he has been so confident of his hold on you, but just in case I would change all my passwords
. I would also work out my contribution s to the savings and the day I moved out transfer it somewhere safe , like an entirely new account with a different bank or mother's account if they were ok with that

Paddling654 · 19/07/2021 14:10

Once you're safely out, you might want to read up on covert narcissism as your ex sounds like a classic example.

ohfuckitall · 19/07/2021 14:13

Four years is nothing. Women lose decades of their lives to shit men.

You are fantastically fortunate to get out so early.

Go live and be glad.

Maxiedog123 · 19/07/2021 14:14

Sorry having seen new post I would not involve family etc with the money.

DoubleTweenQueen · 19/07/2021 14:14

What??
Your parents are sympathising with him, before hearing from you?? That's just weird.

You need to put them straight, in no uncertain terms, as to his behaviour towards you.

PickAChew · 19/07/2021 14:23

@junglebook123

Things not good today. He's completely ignored me and gone to my parents telling them I've all of a sudden decided it's over and now they're convinced I'm being unreasonable and unkind.

I've tried to explain but not having much luck.

I'd planned to go and stay there today and now I don't even want to.

My dad has even mentioned giving him some money to get a deposit ready to rent somewhere else!!

I'm just sat here having a little cry to be honest. Will speak to parents in person and I'm sure they'll understand eventually, but I feel extremely betrayed that he's done this. I've been nothing but clear about how I feel for a long time, this isn't out of the blue and it's also largely because he admitted he's not into it himself!!

If it wasn't for this thread I'd honestly think I'd lost my marbles 😓

Wow. He's quite the manipulative piece of work. (wondered if it was my ex but yiu said he goes to work)
saraclara · 19/07/2021 14:28

I'd suggest you point out to them that they have NO IDEA of what has been going on behind closed doors. And that you are their daughter, and it troubles you that they would rather you stayed with someone who was "unreasonable and unkind" to you than accept what you have been subjected to OUT OF THEIR SIGHT.

Yes..It's astonishing that they've accepted his version of events without hearing your side. I would feel absolutely betrayed by them.

GreyPaw · 19/07/2021 14:29

Has this information come from him or them? They might have a completely different perspective. If my daughter was going out with a twat like him, I'd pay him to fuck off too.

OceanTurtles · 19/07/2021 14:35

He's so manipulative and emotionally abusive. You've done yourself a favour.

He seems like even if you were to buy a house he'd rinse you off it anyway. What a cunt.

beastlyslumber · 19/07/2021 14:36

That's so upsetting about your parents. But manipulative narcissists like this man can be very good at fooling people - and he's spent four years acting like a normal nice guy with them. So while I would feel very upset and betrayed by their response, it's worth remembering that he is very skilled at manipulating people, and hopefully once you let them know how wrong they are about him, they will apologise to you. For now, maybe just let them know they have no idea what they're talking about. Give it some time.

Sounds like staying where you are could be a good option for you. If not, renting somewhere else sounds good. I wouldn't move in with your parents while they are still under the spell of this guy.

Definitely do not give him any of your money. Make sure you have your own money safely put away where he can't touch it.

saraclara · 19/07/2021 14:37

@GreyPaw

Has this information come from him or them? They might have a completely different perspective. If my daughter was going out with a twat like him, I'd pay him to fuck off too.
Good point. I did wonder myself whether this was his version of the conversation with them, and not theirs.
QueenBee52 · 19/07/2021 14:37

@OceanTurtles

He's so manipulative and emotionally abusive. You've done yourself a favour.

He seems like even if you were to buy a house he'd rinse you off it anyway. What a cunt.

totally 100% this 🌺

iMombie · 19/07/2021 14:42

I’m so glad you’re getting out, just read your thread and it has made me so mad on your behalf.
Why hasn’t he any money? Surely he’s been putting some towards saving for a deposit? Why does he need to involve your Dad?

QueenBee52 · 19/07/2021 14:46

@junglebook123

I hope you are alright and staying focused...

Don't let this Rat manipulate you into anything.. 🌸

PersonaNonGarter · 19/07/2021 14:59

Aw no OP you are doing great.

You have a family structure of people ignoring you (like how your DF has just behaved) and that’s why you have put up with it. But well done for breaking free!

Tell your DF he can do what he likes with his money but he would be giving it to a man who deliberately hurt his daughter.

Newestname001 · 19/07/2021 15:24

@Maxiedog123

I would also work out my contribution s to the savings and the day I moved out transfer it somewhere safe , like an entirely new account with a different bank or mother's account if they were ok with that

I think OP has her money in her own bank account. However, if not, I'd suggest not transferring to her mother's or father's or other family member's account, seeing how well he's manipulated OP's parents.

I do agree with changing your passwords NOW though, OP - just in case he's able to guess or work out your current password. Make it difficult to guess but memorable to you (eg make it a phrase with the first letter of each word plus numbers and special characters in the phrase..)

You'll get through this - be very clear with your parents what's been going on and, if your father insists on making the "loan" ensure he gets a proper, time limited, dated contract is drawn up and signed by both parties in case your father needs to take him to small claims court. 🌹