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Dating Thread 207 - hot summer of fun

998 replies

Dancerinthemoonlight · 04/07/2021 00:06

The Rules:

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is don't talk about it with people you're dating.
  2. Develop a thick skin.
  3. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  4. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  5. Trust your gut instinct.
  6. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
  7. Know your worth.
  8. If it's not fun, stop.
  9. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread. 11. Treat others as you'd like to be treated 12. Any relationship you have that could get ruined by having a conversation about your feelings, standards and/or expectations wasn't really stable enough to begin with 13. The things you choose to ignore/ tolerate now are the reasons you will break up in the future 14. OLD can get very time consuming. Keep doing other activities you enjoy.

Optional: Please give your irons (potential dates you are talking to) nicknames like Mr Scottish. Initials are allowed (Mr S) when you are an item

OP posts:
FireandBrimstone · 13/07/2021 18:53

Would you all mind if I join please? After my first two weeks ever of OLD it’s clear I need sensible, seasoned guidance if I’m to survive unscathed.

First to say - I’m older, and have a few rigid dealbreakers - which means the pickings have not been rich, for starters. From the few options and the even fewer appealing options, this has been my experience so far:

Mr Sex on Legs - bloody gorgeous, and quirky profile with good prompts for chat. Matched quickly, and moved quickly to fun flirtatious banter, but he only ever messaged at midnight and even if I replied straight away, he didn’t respond. After a week or so if this it was pretty clear to me he was playing his choices and massaging his own ego throughout. I sent a polite brief message before I unmatched, but then realised he probably didn’t get to see the message as I unmatched straight away. Lesson 1 learned.

Mr Shakespeare - looked alarmingly like my ex husband but with sharper, wittier chat. Messaged lots in week 1 including him referring to meeting up. A few days later I, being bold (and having done my -stalking on here for tips- research), suggested a call or meet because I didn’t want to get too invested based on chat alone. Even though he agreed, no firm plans were suggested despite me offering some options, and from that point the chat got thinner. Got to last night when, like blood out of a stone, he agreed to a 15min phone call tonight. But when I slept on it, everything just felt wrong and looking back at his messages it was like I was about to put him through some kind of tortuous ordeal. So I’ve written him a long polite note just saying it’s clear that for whatever reason there’s a disconnect… and I’ve not unmatched yet, to give him a chance to read it, but I will.

Mr DJ - matched on Friday, really nice two way chat, he brought up the idea of meeting within the first 24hrs. Loads of chat and moved to WhatsApp yesterday. Again worried about investing, today I tried to progress the idea of a meet soon (as I’m going away for a couple of weeks and didn’t want to drag on a chat for several more weeks). Logistics tricky (he works irregular hours, we are not in the same city) and I made a total car crash of articulating things in the process. To cut a long story short now he has graciously backed off to a ‘let’s see if we want to chat / meet when you’re back’ kind of thing. Dammit.

I am so not a pushy person. But also, the idea of over-investing in a few profile pics and good chat, without some kind of real life / real time encounter to see if the chemistry is there, just feels way too exposing. On the other hand I kind of feel a bit punished for being proactive, by the responses of Mr Shakespeare and Mr DJ when I’ve tried to move things on.

Sorry for the length of this. I prostrate myself in front of you OLD experts. Help me see the light, please!

Dee03 · 13/07/2021 19:02

Sooo my son tested positive for Covid today... mr NotTooFar still wants to meet up when I'm out of isolation and is going to call me later Grin

WeWantTheFinestWines · 13/07/2021 19:05

Started chatting with Mr Legal yesterday. Having a video chat in 5 mins. Would have preferred phone so making zero effort, no makeup, still in vest from sitting in the sun. My last iron became an immediate no after a video call so useful way to weed out.

BelladiMamma · 13/07/2021 19:21

@Dee03

Sooo my son tested positive for Covid today... mr NotTooFar still wants to meet up when I'm out of isolation and is going to call me later Grin
Oh no! Sorry about that. At least you've got some time to hopefully chill & forget about the irons for a bit?
BelladiMamma · 13/07/2021 19:22

@WeWantTheFinestWines

Started chatting with Mr Legal yesterday. Having a video chat in 5 mins. Would have preferred phone so making zero effort, no makeup, still in vest from sitting in the sun. My last iron became an immediate no after a video call so useful way to weed out.
Ha! So true. Weeding out is always good to do Smile
Dee03 · 13/07/2021 19:25

@BelladiMamma
Thanks 😊

Isitreallyme777 · 13/07/2021 19:30

Need to keep myself busy this week as I've got a week off and Mr Cricket is on holiday with his daughter all week and I don't want to bombard him with messages as I'm bored 🤣. Hoping the sun will mean I can sit in the garden and read.

BelladiMamma · 13/07/2021 19:39

@FireandBrimstone

Would you all mind if I join please? After my first two weeks ever of OLD it’s clear I need sensible, seasoned guidance if I’m to survive unscathed.

First to say - I’m older, and have a few rigid dealbreakers - which means the pickings have not been rich, for starters. From the few options and the even fewer appealing options, this has been my experience so far:

Mr Sex on Legs - bloody gorgeous, and quirky profile with good prompts for chat. Matched quickly, and moved quickly to fun flirtatious banter, but he only ever messaged at midnight and even if I replied straight away, he didn’t respond. After a week or so if this it was pretty clear to me he was playing his choices and massaging his own ego throughout. I sent a polite brief message before I unmatched, but then realised he probably didn’t get to see the message as I unmatched straight away. Lesson 1 learned.

Mr Shakespeare - looked alarmingly like my ex husband but with sharper, wittier chat. Messaged lots in week 1 including him referring to meeting up. A few days later I, being bold (and having done my -stalking on here for tips- research), suggested a call or meet because I didn’t want to get too invested based on chat alone. Even though he agreed, no firm plans were suggested despite me offering some options, and from that point the chat got thinner. Got to last night when, like blood out of a stone, he agreed to a 15min phone call tonight. But when I slept on it, everything just felt wrong and looking back at his messages it was like I was about to put him through some kind of tortuous ordeal. So I’ve written him a long polite note just saying it’s clear that for whatever reason there’s a disconnect… and I’ve not unmatched yet, to give him a chance to read it, but I will.

Mr DJ - matched on Friday, really nice two way chat, he brought up the idea of meeting within the first 24hrs. Loads of chat and moved to WhatsApp yesterday. Again worried about investing, today I tried to progress the idea of a meet soon (as I’m going away for a couple of weeks and didn’t want to drag on a chat for several more weeks). Logistics tricky (he works irregular hours, we are not in the same city) and I made a total car crash of articulating things in the process. To cut a long story short now he has graciously backed off to a ‘let’s see if we want to chat / meet when you’re back’ kind of thing. Dammit.

I am so not a pushy person. But also, the idea of over-investing in a few profile pics and good chat, without some kind of real life / real time encounter to see if the chemistry is there, just feels way too exposing. On the other hand I kind of feel a bit punished for being proactive, by the responses of Mr Shakespeare and Mr DJ when I’ve tried to move things on.

Sorry for the length of this. I prostrate myself in front of you OLD experts. Help me see the light, please!

Well, if I knew the answer to the age old communication conundrum ... I wouldn't be single and I'd be a gazillionaire. I'm still struggling with it to be honest. I try to be fairly open and I am a confident / upfront person. This can put guys off but then that's also a good filter sometimes?
WeWantTheFinestWines · 13/07/2021 19:55

Mr Legal wanted to go straight from chat to video because often the women don't look like their profile and it means no hopeless dates. I said I prefer the phone and a quick meet because video chats with someone you haven't met can feel confrontational. Phone is much more relaxed. So he suggested a date. Which I accepted, because since I've had every other week to myself I've managed to go on a date every week. So I don't want to end my streak already (after 2 dates).

I don't think I'll fancy him though. He informed me that he has a good sense of humour. I informed him that everyone thinks they have a good sense of humour but how can they be sure? I was quite feisty because I was annoyed about the video thing. Turns out he likes feisty. So drink on Thursday it is. Have to keep the date-every-child-free-week thing going...

Naimee87 · 13/07/2021 20:09

@WeWantTheFinestWines ooooh let us know how the video chat goes!

SpringlikeBunk · 13/07/2021 20:12

@FireandBrimstone

Welcome!

Dunno if it’s any comfort but like @BelladiMamma says this kind of situation isn’t uncommon - lots of early flakes

(and the ones who don’t flake turns out it’s because they’re pushy and desperate for a hookup and not the ones you want!)

I’d say my screening is ok, realistic recent photos of me.

happy to chat on phone, send recent selfie, etc.

So not giving guys any reason to doubt before meet.

I’ve had some great in person meets with some great catches for sure.

but also the percentage of “flakes” is obscene?

Like cancelling very late with a very flimsy excuse, or not confirming day before?

And these aren’t like “stereotyped players posing topless on their cars” but quite nice mainstream blokes.

I think guys are collecting 5-6 chats then maybe downgrading a few.

Or maybe just getting very lazy and thinking that they can wait it out for someone who suggests a first meet at theirs or sex on a first meet.

Like I said there are some gems and I’ve had some lovely moments (and like @Dancerinthemoonlight observed earlier maybe it’s just post lockdown weirdness)

but I don’t think there’s a foolproof rule to get reliable contacts? It’s just the luck of the draw.

I’m definitely not resilient enough so I’m sitting out any new contacts for now!

The only small observation I would say is maybe you could “bench” contacts like MrDJ and take what he says at face value - maybe he doesn’t have time to meet so without chatting every day just check in when you get back?

Like one of my chats got work away and asked what I wanted to do and I said why not just check in when he’s on the way home ? (And message if something really exciting happens) and he was ok with that.

SpringlikeBunk · 13/07/2021 20:17

Also agree with @BelladiMamma that it’s important to just be yourself with communication early on? If you’re not comfortable with each other or feel you’re having to “do the hard sell” then that’s not a good sign.

I regret when I’ve tried to “change my comms style to get the date” - it shouldn’t be hard the other party should be reasonably enthusiastic too!

MayEye · 13/07/2021 20:20

My mission to self destruction continues.
I have a date zero tomorrow with a long distance and very cute iron and have been chatting to Mr Blue Eyes about potentially rekindling our sexual connection! These last 3 weeks since I’ve seen Mr TG have made me rethink everything I thought I wanted. So I’m exploring it a bit more.
There is potential for emotional carnage here I am aware!

SpringlikeBunk · 13/07/2021 20:24

@MayEye

Two weeks of passion (carnage?) get it out of your system HaloGin

BelladiMamma · 13/07/2021 20:27

I'm veering back towards that too 😂 🙈

Went back on bumble and thought I'd deleted my profile. It had just been dormant and I had a load of likes since the subscription lapsed & I'd been reMoved from incognito mode because that is a paid feature. Without realising I'd been flung back in the sea of twats!

I now have about 7/8 chats and suggesting coffees to them all.

Absolute carnage around the corner.

MrBeard keen to meet despite illness. I've said I'll come to his work city. I'm clearly not one to play it cool ... although we have been chatting for since April now. Let's see.

MayEye · 13/07/2021 21:37

@BelladiMamma @SpringlikeBunk bring on the carnage! We can console each other when it inevitably goes tits up Grin

VanGoghsDog · 13/07/2021 21:37

I must be the only person who has never paid a penny to any dating app in my life!

If they get odd when you suggest meeting, just move on.

I'm going to suggest a walk Saturday with Bumble chat guy I think.

Medical results came back "normal" btw :)

OnwardsEverStridingOnwards · 13/07/2021 21:40

Hi everyone,

Still on Tinder. I have acquired another new iron. I'll call him Mr. Specs. He's lovely, flirty too. But not over the top.

Haven't spoken to Mr. Action since he send a brief 'hey, how are you?' Message last week.

Haven't spoken to Mr. Smile today, but he did say things were hectic for him at work, so he's probably just not had time to go online.

I've had quite bad Pulpitis this week (tooth infection) and am on antibiotics at the moment, so I've found that this week hasn't been the best for starting chats, but I'm recovering slowly ❤️

OnwardsEverStridingOnwards · 13/07/2021 21:41

@VanGoghsDog

I must be the only person who has never paid a penny to any dating app in my life!

If they get odd when you suggest meeting, just move on.

I'm going to suggest a walk Saturday with Bumble chat guy I think.

Medical results came back "normal" btw :)

@VanGoghsDog ❤️❤️❤️
OnwardsEverStridingOnwards · 13/07/2021 21:43

*sent

BelladiMamma · 13/07/2021 21:48

@VanGoghsDog

I must be the only person who has never paid a penny to any dating app in my life!

If they get odd when you suggest meeting, just move on.

I'm going to suggest a walk Saturday with Bumble chat guy I think.

Medical results came back "normal" btw :)

Great news re medical results. You must be feeling better already
BelladiMamma · 13/07/2021 21:49

@OnwardsEverStridingOnwards

Hi everyone,

Still on Tinder. I have acquired another new iron. I'll call him Mr. Specs. He's lovely, flirty too. But not over the top.

Haven't spoken to Mr. Action since he send a brief 'hey, how are you?' Message last week.

Haven't spoken to Mr. Smile today, but he did say things were hectic for him at work, so he's probably just not had time to go online.

I've had quite bad Pulpitis this week (tooth infection) and am on antibiotics at the moment, so I've found that this week hasn't been the best for starting chats, but I'm recovering slowly ❤️

Ouch 🦷 poor you
OnwardsEverStridingOnwards · 13/07/2021 21:50

@BelladiMamma 😘😘

VanGoghsDog · 13/07/2021 22:11

@OnwardsEverStridingOnwards- thank you, hope you feel better soon!

@BelladiMamma

Thank you. It'd be nice to have a diagnosis though.

FireandBrimstone · 13/07/2021 22:15

Thanks for the welcomes.
Reading your comments have talked me down already from the great height.

@BelladiMamma thanks for your thoughts, that's helpful and actually helps me feel fairly validated now in terms of how I read the situations so far.

Having said that, Mr DJ has in fact followed up this evening and very kindly pulled me back out of the hole that the ground had opened up and swallowed me into earlier! So... deep breath, put back on the thick skin and this iron may still be there for a while longer. So I think you were right with your advice to take things at face value @SpringlikeBunk

Loving hearing about the positive progress from other irons ion here.

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