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£5.50

141 replies

PinotPony · 03/07/2021 08:05

Ex and I split a couple of years ago. Very amicable and we've remained good friends. We still do "family" things like meals out with our two sons (16 and 12).

When we split, we agreed what he'd pay me in child maintenance - £500 a month. He takes home about £2500 so I knew it was broadly about right but we didn't calculate it in any particular detail. I just wanted enough to be able to stay in the house. We were not married so there's no spousal maintenance. I earn a similar amount.

We were fortunate that his mother gave him £150k towards a new property. I stayed in our house and he effectively has a charge on the property for his share of the equity which is to be paid to him when the youngest child leaves full time education. The children stay with him every Wednesday and EOW although we're fairly flexible about this.

Money has always been a problem between us. We disagreed about whether big payments for things like school trips or scout camp should be included within the monthly amount he pays. I thought he should contribute to them but he felt otherwise.

As growing boys, our sons need new clothes. I don't have any problem with buying what they need but, when I suggested to ex that he might buy the odd item of clothing, he said he'd do that if he could deduct £100 from my maintenance! I've had to buy things like extra deodorant and hair gel because the boys say they don't have any at his place. I've told him very clearly he needs to include these items in his weekly grocery shop as necessary.

Last month ex told me he intends to build a home gym at a cost of £6,000. He lives across the road from our local leisure centre! I managed not to roll my eyes too loudly. It's all BS and I suspect will never happen.

Now covid restrictions have started to lift, the boys are back at activities. Eldest decided he didn't want to return to Scouts. It costs £11 per month. I told ex. When I received my maintenance he'd deducted £5.50 and paid me £494.50!

I didn't shout or get shitty, just told him I was pretty disappointed that he was so tight with money. He just shrugged it off and said he thought it was fair. I thought he might change it back after our conversation but this month he's done the same.

£5.50 shouldn't bother me. It's not worth getting into a war. But I'm sooo pissed off about it. I feel like asking for his payslips so we can just do it all formally. I also feel like I don't want to spend any more time in the company of this selfish man who would send his kids to school in torn trousers than fork out for a new pair.

Any ideas on how to handle the situation? Read him the riot act or just let it go..?

OP posts:
LCDIT · 03/07/2021 08:12

Pick your battles, I would not rise to his pettiness on this occasion.

hotchocandtwosmokybacon · 03/07/2021 08:20

Oh I would be pissed off too. It seems he just wants to deduct money and never offer more when your sons take up more things. I do not know much whether you can ask for some formal arrangement now but I would if I can. It seems doing nothibg will give him a blanket OK to deduct sums without your agreement

butterfly990 · 03/07/2021 08:26

Index link the £500 😉

ThisIsStartingToBoreMe · 03/07/2021 08:28

Leave it, it's not worth the hassle.

Your 16 year old can soon get a part time job and top his income up that way.

Hellohah · 03/07/2021 08:28

Have you ever put your details into the CMS calculator.

If he earns around £40k a year, the CMS amount for 2 children who stay with him 1-2 nights a week is £417.

As above, pick your battles.

MeanMrMustardSeed · 03/07/2021 08:29

Time for inflation to be included.

Bksjshsbbev2737 · 03/07/2021 08:36

If he earns £2500 then I think you get quite a bit more than cms would give you so I’d be cautious about reading him the riot act about extra costs.

Ravenspeckingontheroof · 03/07/2021 08:37

Hi OP, yes I’d be peeved, but as pp, pick your battles.
What I really came to say is how refreshing it is to read about separated parents that are amicable. You have clearly put you DC first in the separation and been an excellent roll model. I hope you are proud of yourself.

BramStoker · 03/07/2021 08:45

Playing devil's advocate it sounds like you want it both ways

If expenses go up then you expect him to pay more but if exenses go down you don't expect him to pay you less. I'm guessing that over lockdown, a lot of your sons activities weren't happening so you will have saved money but then expect your ex to pay for extras that arise.

£500 sounds reasonable based on what you both earn so I agree with others about picking your battles. If you don't want him to be pedantic then pay him the same respect.

CrazyCatsAndKittens · 03/07/2021 08:45

What a petty arsehole!!

I would almost be tempted to take the financial hit by going through CMS, but it’s probably smarter just to say and do nothing and leave him to it.

Just be glad you aren’t with him anymore!

Sillawithans · 03/07/2021 08:48

Crikey, I thing you're being a bit greedy here. 500 a month should cover school trousers and a pot of hair gel!

I think you're getting a fair amount if I'm honest.

HostessTrolley · 03/07/2021 08:51

I’d point out that a 16 and a 12 year old would have been 14 and 10 a couple of years ago so the cost to feed, clothe and keep them in toiletries etc has gone up over that time - along with the extra costs involved with having them at home more over the last year due to covid - extra snacks etc

NotaCoolMum · 03/07/2021 08:54

My ex is EXACTLY the same. He’s a douche bag. He thinks because he pays £400 maintenance he doesn’t have any other responsibility to our DS. He’s never bought DS a SINGLE item of clothing (DS is 14) or contributed to anything like school trips etc. We split when DS was 2. It is utterly infuriating.

£5.50
NotaCoolMum · 03/07/2021 08:55

I should add that my ex only sees DS for one afternoon every 4-6 weeks as he’s married now with 2 small children so “doesn’t have time”…, 🙄🤬

knittingaddict · 03/07/2021 09:00

@Sillawithans

Crikey, I thing you're being a bit greedy here. 500 a month should cover school trousers and a pot of hair gel!

I think you're getting a fair amount if I'm honest.

The amount is dependant on how much the NRP earns. It is not your place to tell the op that this is a fair amount and that she is greedy. Angry

He sounds like a petty arse to me.

ALittleBitConfused1 · 03/07/2021 09:02

I think what he is paying you is a fair amount in all honesty. I can see why his pettiness on this ocassion would piss you off but as others have said no point retaliating for 5.50.

Jossbow · 03/07/2021 09:11

He's done it to provoke a reaction I guess.

Dont give him the satisfation.

very petty

Jossbow · 03/07/2021 09:15

I think he is also making a point. He pays you £500 a month.
If you dont consider that his contribution covers things like clubs and expenses for school, what does it cover?

Can you really not run two lads on £1000 a month?

knittingaddict · 03/07/2021 09:19

@Jossbow

I think he is also making a point. He pays you £500 a month. If you dont consider that his contribution covers things like clubs and expenses for school, what does it cover?

Can you really not run two lads on £1000 a month?

Where are you getting the £1,000 from?
AnneLovesGilbert · 03/07/2021 09:19

You can read him the riot act but what if he starts paying you less?

You don’t have to socialise with him. Joint meals can suit some separated parents but they can also be confusing. Children understand mum and dad aren’t together anymore and don’t need to pretend they are.

What his mum gave him isn’t anything to do with you other than allow you to stay in the house which you otherwise couldn’t have done. You weren’t married so I don’t think you’ve done badly overall.

DomPom47 · 03/07/2021 09:20

500 from 2500 sounds pretty decent. You said you get similar salary so think YABU.

user1493494961 · 03/07/2021 09:21

I think you're getting a fair amount, to echo a pp, don't be greedy.

wjg65ka · 03/07/2021 09:22

Tbh I don't think that's too bad, sorry. Better than what most people get.

My dad didn't even it the fiver a week for two children he was expected to pay.

Etceteraaah · 03/07/2021 09:22

Well £5.50 is nothing in the grand scheme of things...but this isn't about the £5.50 really. It's about a man who made an agreement with you about how much money he is paying each month towards his children's upkeep, and him deciding to police your spending of the money and reduce the money when he sees fit. Seeing as the children are with you the vast majority of the time then it is down to you to organise the money coming in and allocate it towards what the children need. Also, maintenance doesn't work the way he seems to think it does. Children's needs change over time, but that doesn't mean the cost of them changes- it means that where that £5.50 is no longer spent on a club, it may now be spent somewhere else...like on deodorant or on food or a book that the child wants etc.

What would worry me more is that this may become more frequent and he starts making regular deductions.

IcedSpice · 03/07/2021 09:23

Can you really not run two lads on £1000 a month?

Where are you getting the £1,000 from?

£500 from him and £500 from OP