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Anyone not fancy their husband at first ?

169 replies

ROZ12 · 27/05/2021 23:53

Hi all

anyone grew to fancy their Hubbie and looked beyond the looks ?

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KatyKeene · 29/05/2021 14:34

Hello Roz

We are from the same sort of background - divorced women being viewed as unworthy of marriage. I’m muslim and 2 years your junior! I have a two teenage sons -one of whom will be 19 very soon!!

I was also in a abusive marriage and my ex also moved on very swiftly and it was important my sons had a place to call home where it was just the 3 of us for a while!

When I decided that I’d recovered and my children were settled. I decided to try again. Entering the marriage matchmaking game hoping for a another single parent or divorcee parent. I was amazed to learn that I was considered some sort of sub-human species to these divorced muslim men - many of whom were not attractive, intellectual or in any way successful.

I met many muslim men - some who I was clearly never going to be attracted to - however I felt that I had to try and also I felt shallow for thinking about the attraction too much. The average looking men who I met thought they were absolutely god’s gift and made it expressly clear they were doing me a huge favour by even speaking to me! I decided I’d meet with someone I was not attracted to - in this scenario the few handful I met were also of the same mindset because I’m divorced with children. All these men are also divorced with children and some of them very awkward in looks and habits! I met short men, bald men - very odd looking guys - I approached each person sincerely and looked for character, outlook, personality attitude and religion in each person.

I actually thought ok - maybe I won’t initially be attracted to the person - however their character and personality was going to open up attraction and that’s how I approached each person sincerely. I’m an average looking person - I don’t consider myself to be very beautiful. I’m average looking - girl next door - with a bubbly personality and work in design.

I was never fortunate to meet anyone who genuinely had the good character towards everyone. I’m sad to admit all the men I met had bad attitudes towards women, some were very racist - many of them had no self reflection of their own behaviours and talked of how they had been wronged by their ex wives! Very few were kind about the mother’s of their children.

I was made to feel like I was sub-human species. All of them were only interested in having a fun time - girlfriend - not one of them had any marriage intentions or settling down intentions. Actually the good looking men - very few that I met were upfront - they expressly said they wanted a physical relationship and they felt that since I was divorced (this was the reason they pursued online), thinking that I’d also be of the same mindset.

Well that wasn’t my mindset and I politely told them sorry it’s not for me and they were polite accepted my decision and moved on! The men who found my rejection to their girlfriend proposal hard to deal with were the average and very odd looking men. Their behaviour was awful and abusive.

I’m now blessed to be married to the most handsome blue eyed - tall and gorgeous man - he accepted islam. My husband is very handsome - he’s English has a solid profession he’s also divorced with 3 of his own children.

I never ever thought in a million years I would marry an English man - and I never thought anyone would love me to think about my way of life. My husband is brought up Catholic and most of our beliefs are actually the same - the only thing Islam doesn’t have or believe in is the trinity - and this was not an issue for my husband. He believes in God and understanding that our faiths are really very much the same apart from the trinity aspect. He also knows my respect for other faiths - I love churches and when I’m inside a church it’s house of god - and I’m respectful - and in awe of the building and the energy of religious places.

When we met - it wasn’t even a dating situation - we are single parents and that’s how we got acquainted. Of course we did progress to dating. After my awful experiences with divorced muslim men - I threw caution to the wind and just enjoyed getting to know my husband - and before we got serious I let him know my intentions were to find a partner to settle with - someone to grow old with. I never used the word marriage - HE DID - because he’s a family man. I was so hurt and unsure of myself in the beginning I was just enjoying the friendship and exchanging dating stories because he had been looking to settle too!

My husband couldn’t believe the horrors I experienced. I minimised what happened to me - he actually helped me to open my eyes and understand I’d been abused by some of these odd characters.

My experience- is just that my experience - there are some amazing muslim / non muslim men out there. What I learned through my years of meeting a few men was that it was important to see what their attitudes are towards women, how do they treat ex partners, was there any self reflection within them and how did they treat the women in their family. This is important - many of them men I met had awful sibling relationships and found their mothers irritating and controlling there was no understanding of their families humble beginnings as migrants. These men I met had no empathy for anyone really.

There are lovely muslim guys out there - I hope I’m bringing two of them up myself! Starts from the family upbringing. I tell my sons life is precious to be shared and the beauty of good family life is when the burdens are shared. They know that they are going to have to do their equal part in a future family household and it’s important they understand that this is their duty not a favour!!

Many of my friends are married to wonderful progressive and kind muslim men - so they are out there.

As for your situation Roz - give the guy a chance but if after one meeting you don’t feel any attraction towards him be honest with him. Friendship may blossom - you have no idea. Looking beyond a persons looks is what brought me to where I am.

I don’t love my husband for his looks - he’s very handsome. It’s wonderful to have that - BUT I was always going to fall in love with his kindness, his humour, his positive energy. We are all ageing and a physical attraction is worthless without a connection to someone’s being. He will age I will age - but I will always be attracted to him for the person he is!

I hope my post and experience give you some confidence. Value yourself you are beautiful, you are wonderful and anyone guy who gets five minutes of your attention is lucky because you Roz are the prize! Roz you are the prize and don’t let anyone tell you that being divorced or in your forties makes you unattractive.

Those people who put you down - those are their beliefs we don’t have to carry them forward and fufill their awful prophecy. We women are strong and beautiful and anyone devaluing you has to be silenced and ignored.

All you single mothers out there - you are beautiful you are amazing and you are worthy of great love. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

ROZ12 · 29/05/2021 14:48

@KatyKeene

Bless you ! I’m so happy you found someone who truly loves you.

I love yeh confidence you have given me in your kind words.

In our culture I feel like used goods! So This the first guy who is not making me feel this way and he wants to get married when / if I’m ready - he does not want a one night stand like the others I spoke to.

As my whole post is about ok finding it hard to get past the looks but so far his personality is lovely. He actually just asked me to meet and letting me decide when.

I’m so pleased for you and your boys.

Just on the note of how he is with his female relatives - he has none, his mum died when he was 3 and no sisters , not close to brothers . I on other hand have lovely family and parents and said he wants to be a family.

What do you think ?

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ROZ12 · 29/05/2021 14:52

@KatyKeene

Sorry forgot to say he has no kids and also divorced and that’s perfect for me. I didn’t want a mother in law either - had an awful one before . He ticks a lot of boxes .

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Livpool · 29/05/2021 15:00

Sorry OP I really fancied DH when we first met

KatyKeene · 29/05/2021 15:25

@ROZ12 - It’s all about intentions -

He has good intentions - so give him a chance!

Of course if you feel after meeting him there is no hope of attraction opening up you can be honest with him.

Most religions are all about intentions -

With that in mind - looking at someone’s intentions is an important part of acquainting yourself. There are many young people I know who married very handsome men and had awful abusive relationships - these are young divorcees with no children. Later they met less physically attractive partners - who were amazing people.

I know a few young ladies in this position - and their husbands value them and worship them - their kindness and amazing character won them over - because they were at first apprehensive about meeting someone who they didn’t feel an instant attraction to.

It’s just a very difficult issue - my personal belief is attraction can’t only be quantified by physical looks - however this is my personal opinion.

ROZ12 · 29/05/2021 15:28

@KatyKeene

As I said I did the looks before my ex was amazing looking , but ThAt all fades and personality stays and he had none of that. I need to mature and take your attitude that it’s not all about looks.

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JudyGemstone · 29/05/2021 15:43

KatyKeene that was lovely to read, your husband sounds great Smile

My partner is from a Muslim family but isn’t practicing himself, it seems a very female centric religion in some ways but sadly there are always those men who will exploit certain parts of it for their own gain, happens in all religions it’s the patriarchy.

OP I think you should meet him, you have nothing to lose Smile

KatyKeene · 29/05/2021 16:04

@ROZ12

Our society has evolved into a state where that instant attraction is the measure of a decision.

We live in a social media whirlwind of fake profiles projecting fake / deceptive looks. If you were buying a car 🚗 would you just by a Ferrari because well hello it’s beautiful and you’ll look amazing in it!

When we make other life decisions 🏡 home / car 🚗 - we don’t just go on the physical state. We weigh up all the pros and cons - space, schools, transport links and local amenities. Isn’t it time we used the same sensibility in regards to our personal relationships?

I’m not telling you to spend your life with a man you aren’t ever going to be attracted to - I’m just simply asking you to look beyond the instant attraction. How many times have I loved a piece of fabric or a dress from a distance at first glance but upon close inspection - I’ve realised it’s not to my taste. This instant attraction to everything is simply immature.

I’ve also disliked a dress at first glance and someone has cajoled me into a changing room and I’ve looked in the mirror and realised it’s a beautiful dress and I was unable to see it’s true beauty.

My simple ask to any single woman looking to find a partner is to apply reasoning towards the attraction process. I’m not saying you have to be with a person you don’t find an attraction - all I’m saying is with everything else we research we go beyond the first look that’s how to come to a good decision and as a society we are losing our skills to make decisions because we glance at everything - that’s how we decide.

This media saturated world has us “people shopping” swiping on profiles - that’s really not the way to find a partner. Life is not eBay you don’t click and collect people!!

That’s my two penny’s worth…

Perhaps my opinions are outdated and out of touch with this new media saturated world where nothing is fact checked - even our news channels are no longer reporting without bias and prejudice.

ROZ12 · 29/05/2021 16:15

@KatyKeene

Ghosh how sensible are you- your Hubbie is a lucky man.

It’s so true what you said , I see too many good looking couples on Instagram .

The interesting thing is before I was swiping left and not giving anyone a chance. I pursued this guy he agreed not to exchange pics we got to know each other online so we see what others views are / hobbies / personality / backgrounds etc - all fine so far. We then exchanged pics and he liked me and didn’t him. He was pretty upset as well- but I said it can grow - the attraction and give it a chance .

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KatyKeene · 29/05/2021 16:16

@JudyGemstone

Thanks for the nice comment! Indeed my husband is a lovely person.

Interesting to know you realise there are many women’s rights in Islam - what I earn is ours - what he earns is family money - whilst I don’t have adhere to any imbalance - it’s all about looking after each other.

It took an English Man - a professor from Cambridge to help me understand how valuable and beautiful my faith is - women’s property rights existed long before, we were awarded them in the west.

It is a shame the patriarchy hijack all religions - however there are very knowledgeable male scholars out there who reject this patriarchal ownership and value and understand women.

Our creator God / Allah looks for the intentions - and looks into the heart of mankind - if you are loving kind person that is most important - whilst the acts of worship are beautiful and valuable for spirituality - they are worthless when someone is cruel, unkind and oppressive.

If your praying five times a day - but then you are oppressing you daughter in law or your gossiping or just being unkind to others - you are wasting your time - because all that prayer the blessings will be awarded to the person you’re hurting…

Twoforthree · 29/05/2021 18:02

Some very good insight but there does have to be some attraction if you are to spend the rest of your life with them. But yes, give it a chance to grow.

Please, if you do ever find yourself in an abusive relationship again, please get out quickly. No relationship is better than a bad one.

Lurcherloves · 30/05/2021 21:20

I didn’t at first but we got on so well and I felt safe with him. Turns out he is amazing in bed and is an incredible husband. So patient generous, hard working, kind. He does have flaws as we all do.
14 years now and I love him more than ever

Lurcherloves · 30/05/2021 21:23

@KatyKeene so well put about how our society approaches choosing a partner! Very insightful

ValancyRedfern · 30/05/2021 21:54

I didn't really and still don't. It's a problem. He's a wonderful man and I feel desperately guilty about it.

queenofthenorthwest · 31/05/2021 18:47

@ValancyRedfern

I didn't really and still don't. It's a problem. He's a wonderful man and I feel desperately guilty about it.
Why did you get married? No judgement just genuinely interested
SunshineCake · 31/05/2021 18:52

I didn't but I soon discovered he was a lovely, kind and thoughtful man and as time went on I fancied him and then more so. Together 25 years and he's got better looking as the years have gone on.

ValancyRedfern · 31/05/2021 19:28

queenofthenorthwest we didn't, we did get engaged at one time but I couldn't go through with the wedding. I've literally spent the last 16 years deciding whether or not to split up with him, including 4 years of living separately but I always go back. I have OCD about decisions so I could never trust if my doubts were real or just my OCD. We get on really well and I guess I was scared I'd never find anyone as nice. I also felt guilty for not fancying him as he's the kind of man who all the women love as a friend but never anything more. Now we have dc which complicates things further. I feel I've ruined his life but he says he's very happy. Me, not so much.

BarbarianMum · 31/05/2021 22:13

Not at first, he was a colleague. We became friends. A few months later I realised that my feelings were more than those of a friend. Things developed from there but slowly.

SwordofGryffindor · 01/06/2021 02:13

@waterandtea

Well we're not married but I knew my current boyfriend for a few years as a friend and never fancied him or even thought about him in that way. I liked him as a friend, he's a v decent kind interesting man but there wasn't any physical attraction on my part.

I was v surprised when he asked me out, I agreed initially because I didn't want to upset him - but when we kissed I realised there was a definite physical attraction there and as time goes on I fancy him more and more, not in a 'pwoar look at that' instant chemistry sort of way but in a deeper way, it's hard to explain but I am attracted to the whole person not just the way he looks and I know how I react to his touch Blush and how right and natural it feels when we're together so I see him in a different way.

So romantic lol 😍
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