Is it just me or does most men suck?

[peanutttttt]

Exactly just that. I really hate dating now a days, because you just never know if someone's intentions are genuine. Like how do you know anymore? Men of all ages just suck and at this point I have given up. I went on a date with this man, the connection was great before the date and the date was great. I even got a kiss at the end of it but never heard from him again. Like how weird! I don't dwell on it. It's just annoying I wish people would be honest now. I can't stand it. How's everyone else's dating life going? Because my love life is an absolute joke.

@JustAnotherOldMan

More female graduates doesn’t translate to equality unless the underlying structures of discrimination , devaluing of women’s skills amd men not carrying their fair share of parenting are changed
The many many go to report of female poverty , discrimination and pay disparity also make for fascinating reading

The lack of suitable partners go well beyond males education levels
How are men going to address the issues so many of them have with violence , porn addiction and basic lack of respect for women ???

Perhaps over the long-term the human species will be mostly females with a few males kept on 'stud farms'
Like the inverse of The handmaid's tale

I actually like men and seem to get on well with them as a colleague or friend. Or even as a partner/husband until it all goes wrong. Then they turn out to be useless. Where have the decent men gone? I do agree pornography is a terrible influence.

Technically I'm not too old - I'm 39. Realistically though I've missed the boat. I'd want to be married before having children and would like more than one child. I'm currently single in a global pandemic. Even if I found someone today (seems unlikely - just look at this thread!) it would realistically be at least a year before we'd move in together, another couple before we were married then another year for child number 1 to come along etc etc.

Sorry that reply was to @Washingtofold.

@JustAnotherOldMan that's great but what happens when these women start having babies? All of that reverses. Or they don't have children which more and more people are choosing.

Perhaps it’s less about ‘fixing’ women - as media would suggest sometimes for example blaming women for having careers and putting off having children. Women seem to be on the whole doing better at school, at college / Uni, at jobs, at juggling work and children, at becoming financially and emotionally more stable before having families.

Perhaps it is putting some effort into guiding young boys and men into being able to do this too and being better fathers. For example white boys from low income families I think have the worst outcomes of almost any other group - failing school, struggling, making bad life choices. Somethings got to break the cycle as they will become fathers and their sons will repeat all of this.

@Washingtofold

Yeah poor menz getting all the problems they created laid at their feet...... sob sob

So what do you do for a living?

@Oreo01

‘So what do you do for a living’

What relevance does that have .
You’ve come on here with a whole lot of opinions and zero data to back any of them up as many have told Yoh . When I presented yoh with data that completed flew in the face of you assertions such as you ‘ if your claim. That violence is only a matter of 60/ 40 difference between men and women yoh completely ignored me
When o presented yoh with example after example of how you personally benefit simply from being a man in this world yoh ignored every on of those too
Yoh simply continued to prattle on about your experience in ONE workplace and how you understand that the glass ceiling is the reason for the gender pay gap but it’s ok cause it’s changing , apparently

NOW you question what I do for work . I’ve worked in various jobs ranging from unskilled work when younger to Corporate.
I’ve also raised my children during this time , juggling things as most women do . Taking time off when needed and making sacrifices.
Would you ask a man his work history . Does it help you build a picture to justify why you can dismiss me like you have others here ?
What do you do for work ? Do you have children How did you work around looking after your babies when they were young ?

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@Oreo01 I earn a 6 figure salary and I think you are being a prick speaking to ither women like that.

*other

I guess he wants to understand how a ‘dumb woman ‘ can dare to change he him . Knowing my job will somehow help him slot me into some little box in his mind .....
will love to hear his answer as to why my job has any relevance

@Washingtofold

Thanks to people like you, generalising, painting sub sets of people all with the same shitty brush, no wonder the world is in a mess.

I’ve said on these boards many times, nobody is a bigger supporter of women who are down trodden, cheated on, abused and abandoned, than myself.

And just for YOU: I was cheated on in my marriage. I signed over the house which was %80 paid for and she moved her affair partner in.

We had two boys 7 & 9. The eldest came to live with me for several years. I also had the youngest every other weekend. But she never had the eldest.

I was a single Dad with a demanding job, had to start again on the housing market. My kids always took priority over any friendships or relationships. Sometimes it was tough, was lonely but nothing a million women don’t do everyday. I never expected a medal and it was one of the most rewarding experiences of my life.

When the boys were men, I took in a severely disabled but close loved relative and cared for her full time as well as still working full time, until she passed several years later. Another life changing and rewarding experience.

I’ve been blessed.

I don’t have a basement. I’ve never used porn. I’ve never used women, knowingly. I always organised my own life. I’m utterly depressed how some / many shitty men give treat women, but that doesn’t mean EVERY man is an arsehole.

Washingtofold

I think YOU should give it up. It seems not every man is a Narc.

[quote Fabiofatshaft1]@Washingtofold

Thanks to people like you, generalising, painting sub sets of people all with the same shitty brush, no wonder the world is in a mess.

I’ve said on these boards many times, nobody is a bigger supporter of women who are down trodden, cheated on, abused and abandoned, than myself.

And just for YOU: I was cheated on in my marriage. I signed over the house which was %80 paid for and she moved her affair partner in.

We had two boys 7 & 9. The eldest came to live with me for several years. I also had the youngest every other weekend. But she never had the eldest.

I was a single Dad with a demanding job, had to start again on the housing market. My kids always took priority over any friendships or relationships. Sometimes it was tough, was lonely but nothing a million women don’t do everyday. I never expected a medal and it was one of the most rewarding experiences of my life.

When the boys were men, I took in a severely disabled but close loved relative and cared for her full time as well as still working full time, until she passed several years later. Another life changing and rewarding experience.

I’ve been blessed.

I don’t have a basement. I’ve never used porn. I’ve never used women, knowingly. I always organised my own life. I’m utterly depressed how some / many shitty men give treat women, but that doesn’t mean EVERY man is an arsehole.

Washingtofold

I think YOU should give it up. It seems not every man is a Narc.[/quote]
I think you need to spend a little time actually reading the posts here and LISTENING ato what women are saying about their experiences . I’m far from the only woman who feels the way I do and there’s a reason why !!!!!!!!
As for the one accurate statement you made
....
‘Sometimes it was tough, was lonely but nothing a million women don’t do everyday. ‘

Yep!!! That’s true . You hit the nail on the head there mate . You say you don’t expect a medal but guess what millions of women the world over have done the same and more and don’t say a word about it like you have , much less getting online to espouse their struggles and say ‘ i never expected a medal ‘
WE SIMPLY DID IT , AND NEVER EXPECTED A MEDAL

If you want to be a supporter of women start getting educated on the male privilege that exists and listening to women instead of accusing them of painting men with a brush !

@Fabiofatshaft1

and as for the not sitting ina basement and wanking .....I dont see any women here calling themselves felicityfatclit so why don’t you try a name that doesn’t sound so pathetically porn like

@Washingtofold

Jesus

Stop generalising. Stop painting ALL men with the same patronising, shitty stick.

Stop painting ALL women with your ‘ sainthood ‘ brush.

People are people, good, bad, right, wrong, givers, takers, loving, hateful etc, etc.

You are coming over as a narc ( I’m sure you’re not )

But your diatribe is as boring as fuck.

Oh, if you were a man, I’d say the very same thing.

So do YOU have a basement and wank off to porn !?

Idiot

It’s the name of a golf club.

@Washingtofold
and as for the not sitting ina basement and wanking .....I dont see any women here calling themselves felicityfatclit so why don’t you try a name that doesn’t sound so pathetically porn like

Completely agree - its a vile offensive name - surprised mums net did not delete

@Washingtofold

The world is changing and it needs changing. There needs to be far more equality, equity and sharing across all races and genders and everything in between.

But it won’t be driven by bitter people like you.

@Washingtofold

You’re bitterness seems to leak out of you like water from a sponge

So sad.

Best wishes to you.

@Fabiofatshaft1

Idiot

It’s the name of a golf club.

Wow , considering name calling is you default I’ll pass on replying to you

[quote Fabiofatshaft1]@Washingtofold

The world is changing and it needs changing. There needs to be far more equality, equity and sharing across all races and genders and everything in between.

But it won’t be driven by bitter people like you.[/quote]
And as for vile people . You sir need to lookin the mirror

Idiot
It’s the name of a golf club.

Golf club????? Think they need to re market the name or is it just to appeal to men

@Rejoiningperson.
Yes, I think the under achievement of white boys from low income backgrounds is a real issue in education right now, these boys are leave education early with few qualifications, which seems really odd to me as the highest STEM achievers are also male ( maybe Girls don’t like STEM subjects).
But in this country (and most of Europe), there is a generation of under achieving males now, which cannot be good for anyone
Interesting FT article, maybe if we are looking for more higher men, we should be supporting white boys more.

www.ft.com/content/3b2509f2-fda2-11e8-aebf-99e208d3e521