Is it just me or does most men suck?

[peanutttttt]

Exactly just that. I really hate dating now a days, because you just never know if someone's intentions are genuine. Like how do you know anymore? Men of all ages just suck and at this point I have given up. I went on a date with this man, the connection was great before the date and the date was great. I even got a kiss at the end of it but never heard from him again. Like how weird! I don't dwell on it. It's just annoying I wish people would be honest now. I can't stand it. How's everyone else's dating life going? Because my love life is an absolute joke.

@Fabiofatshaft1

If you think the issue is me claiming teachers give less attention to female students in these stub he talks , maybe start here
academics.hamilton.edu/government/dparis/govt375/spring97/gender_equity/equity/ge3.html
Then maybe you can move on to the many
Many other paper written on it !!!!
It’s funny . I can almost garantee you will come back with , oh but most teachers are women
And of course , that is not the case in stem subjects nor would it be relevant even if it were . This is a societal based bias and stereotype and that filters through to men and women alike

I am certain you don’t really give a damn about women’s education . All you want to do is feel like you are right . Even with all the evidence against you . You honestly SOUND like a complete tyrant and bully narcissist yourself . Very interesting how you used that word.
You don’t rattle me one bit and it seems to bother you a lot . That’s because I know the data supports the fact there is huge bias and I know men come from a position of relative privilege . You however seem very upset and trying to prove something simply by being rude and name calling because you know your lacking in factual data and truth .
I find it extremely interesting how as a woman I’m repeatedly told , by men , to provide EVIDENCE which I then provide and they then IGNORE!
Men , on the other hand provide no evidence and believe 100 percent that because they say it , it’s true and woman should just shut their mouths and accept it .

I told you before I didn’t want to engage with you further and like so many men have done previously you keep pushing boundaries .

All the evidence is there . There plenty of reading material . There’s plenty of gender studies courses for you to take to educate yourself if you really care about women’s equality as much as you claim

There’s nothing more to be gained by discussion except you to continue name calling me and demanding more stat that you will ignore or pretend are not important or true .

@Oreo01
I have study psychology but am not a psychologist
I’m also not a mysandrist . I simply believe there are more crappy men out there right now than men behaving well and YOU are a prime example .

@BuggerBognor

Yes absolutely amd even though this thread is about a huge number of men who do suck I think we all know some decent , intelligent men who actually listen and acknowledge their privilege amd who do not try to bully women

Yep, they’re all gay though...

Men regardless of sexual orientation benefit from much of male privilege

@Washingtofold

It’s not about having the last word. It’s about balance.

@Oreo01

Oreo01 is correct. You have absolutely none. You make random statements that bear no relation to what’s happening in the real world. You bleat on about the suffering of women, yet you couldn’t give a monkeys about the suffering of men, ( The Uigars are just one example ).

But they are men, so I guess they deserve to be in concentration camps.

You are type of woke feminist who who won’t be happy until all white men are in chains.

And where’s this white, male privilege !? I’ve given you my back story. Tell me what this privilege is because I’ve never had it. What about your white female privilege that many black women don’t get.

You Google some smart arse comment, that fits your skewed narrative then try to present it as fact.

Why do you think your point of view is superior to Oreo01s !? What God given right do you think you have to put him down while elevating yourself.

As a human being, his value is equal to yours. As a sentient being, he has as much right to an opinion as you, as long as it’s reasonable.

Just a more boring, boring, boring diatribe and half arsed quotes from unsubstantiated sources from you as usual.

Wow it’s amazing isn’t it how a thread about women and their feelings on men is now about the Ulgars and Men’s suffering

Just give it up Already
Neither Oreo nor yourself are remotely balanced .

MALE PRIVILEGE is an actual thing ! And you are doing an amazing job in proving it .

You clearly don’t care to learn about it or hear about it from the women here

@Washingtofold

‘ Men regardless of sexual orientation benefit from much of male privilege. ‘

I think a million Uigars who are currently in concentration camps being tortured or murdered might disagree with you !!!!

Along with the women and children, countless men who were also murdered and slaughtered en masse by the Islamic state might also disagree with you.

Where was their male privilege !?

Your world view is so myopic even Mr Magoo could see it for the bullshit it is.

‘Why do you think your point of view is superior to Oreo01s !? What God given right do you think you have to put him down while elevating yourself.’

This bit actually made me laugh
That ! Coming from a man who has done nothing but put me down , name call , and be extremely agrressive
What makes you think YOUR and Oreos ignoring of male privilege and insistence we ‘ consider men’s suffering ‘ on a thread about women’s experiences of men is more important ?????

And who are you to question and dismiss all the experiences of women here only to talk about men’s issue
It’s not fucking about you !!!!

I’ll never give it up, to someone like you.

You dare to tell me about MY supposed white privilege !? Where is it !? What is it !? I’ve never seen it.

The thread topic is do all men suck. To you, emphatically they all do. But in your crazy mind, all women are victims of white mens white privilege.

Cities across the globe are being burnt down by people with a mind - set similar to yours.

No debate, no conversation, no discourse just a mind - set of I’m right, your wrong.

All hail our great leader.

Washingtofold

And don’t you dare deviate from her ideology.

@Washingtofold

It’s not fucking about YOU, either

It’s amazing that on a thread about how women feel about men , men come here to name call and start being in human atrocities ( incidentally committed predominately by men !!!!) and completely derail the thread
Any war any murder is horrendous , regardless of the gender . But THAT is NOT a the topic of the thread and does not change the fact that white middle age men experience relative privilege .

OP, in general absolutely. Helping a friend escape from ex who is still abusive and going home to drunk shouty dh. There are exceptions.

@Fabiofatshaft1
Omg did you even read about the many ways in which you ARE privileged , obviously NOT

‘The thread topic is do all men suck. To you, emphatically they all do. But in your crazy mind, all women are victims of white mens white privilege.‘

Once again did you read my posts properly , obviously NOT

You clearly have some issue with women far far deeper than I’m prepared to go into . I considered reporting your many abusive posts however I think it’s best women here see how men like you behave .

As for me , I’m done with responding or even reading your abuse and aggression . You go ahead have the last word and rant .
Regardless of anything you say , any further name calling or accusations of me not caring about murdered people .
You still remain very uneducated , very wrong and very mysogynistic
Have at it

@Washingtofold

So according to your logic, men torturing men is irrelevant with regard to this topic !?

It’s all about men being beastly to women.

Check, Got it.

@Washingtofold

Still waiting for you to tell ME what MY privileges are 😗

Cities across the globe are being burnt down by people with a mind - set similar to yours.

Yeah the great arson of major world cities by feminists. I remember learning about that at school.

God this a depressing thread!

Can't see how men are going to be changing any time soon. Porn doesn't seem to be going anywhere for a kick off.

It's not up to women to work out how to change men. And a lot of men don't seem willing to acknowledge a problem. Presumably because there isn't one for them.

Hahahahaha Fabio and Oreo are hilarious. They have to made-up satirical characters right? Because their approach seems like a caricature including in the following respects:

• the post title says 'most men', but I'm going to read that as 'all men' repeatedly
• male privilege cannot possibly exist if any men anywhere have been persecuted or if the writer has had any hardship in their life
• any source provided will be discredited without analysis or review
• part of the the reason straight men are bad is because of the women with whom they have relationships

@Myrighteyeball

Hahahahaha Fabio and Oreo are hilarious. They have to made-up satirical characters right? Because their approach seems like a caricature including in the following respects:

• the post title says 'most men', but I'm going to read that as 'all men' repeatedly
• male privilege cannot possibly exist if any men anywhere have been persecuted or if the writer has had any hardship in their life
• any source provided will be discredited without analysis or review
• part of the the reason straight men are bad is because of the women with whom they have relationships

Once yes that are sad pathetic jokes I’m sure not real people

@Washingtofold

I thought you were going to withdraw !?

I haven’t got an issue with women or anybody who says many or even most white men have white privilege, are patriarchal, racist, sexiest and and treat women appallingly.

My issues start when someone states that ALL white men are privileged, sexist racists, then use quotes off Google to present it as fact.

Virtually every women who has contributed to this thread has either said ‘ many ‘ or ‘ most ‘ men.

Washingtofold

You have consistently tarred ALL men with the same brush.

To be fair to you, you did change your wording towards the end of the thread to ‘ most ‘

When you insult me, call me vile, a porn addict and a wanker, that’s fine is it !? Because you have white female privilege.

I have already stated, although I vehemently disagree with you, I would defend you to the last breath to say it.

I would defend you to express your opinion of me, whatever that might be.

But it doesn’t mean I have to accept it.

But when I defend @Oreo01’s ‘ right ‘ to have a point of view, which wasn’t particularly offensive or incendiary, you rip me to shreds

According to your bonkers world view, I am an uneducated, vile, white male privileged, sexist racist.

But then according to you, EVERY white man is.

That is why I will never succumb to YOU.

Every one has the right to self defence and self preservation. But not according to you.

Someone who wants to drive all white men into the ground because of their skin colour and the sins of patriarchal monsters of the past.

The yoke of ‘ systemic ‘ racism and sexism is not on my shoulders. So stop trying to put it there.

I’ve been a full time working single parent. I’ve been a full time carer, working full time.

It was a privilege. I was blessed to have that experience of raising a boy into a man, then later taking a loved one out of a care home where she was being abused, so I could love and care for her.

I don’t have any shiny medals or badge of honour like you because I don’t have a vagina but in regard to the above:

WHERE was my fucking white privilege !?

If mumsnet decided to pull posts by fabiofatshaft it will be because he is recognised for the absolute disgusting incel like behaviour
Accusing me of using google is just bullshit when you’ve been provided with MUlLTIPLE University sources!!!
Yes I WAS going to withdraw but I’m not backing down to a man who actually sounds like he wants to beat women !!!!
I’m beyond disgusted with the way you behave
YOUR white privilege IS OUT OF CONTROL

Oh

Now you’ve made the leap to accuse me of being a beater of women !?

And now YOU want control of Mumsnets editorial policy so you can ban All men because all men, mostly white, are systematically sexist and women beaters.

Nice one.