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Would I regret leaving over this?

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lostinthislife · 30/04/2021 07:05

I'm really struggling to decide whether I leave or whether life is trade off, and I'd be trading family, stability etc for chasing a bit of passion. Everyone I've spoken to, my family, my friends they just say that on paper everything is so perfect and that I have so much lose and nothing to gain.

I'm engaged, with a toddler. It's both my and dp's first engagement or child, but he is quite a bit older (15 years).

I think realistically I've known since the start it's not some passionate love, it was less then that but I'd come out of a string of bad relationships and then met him and he was stable and reliable and I was drawn to that at that period in my life.

We're obviously quite deep in life now, and I'm so lucky in so many ways, he is a brilliant hands on father, he bought us a beautiful home, he works hard and provides for us. He's a good man. It makes it harder because if he was a prick I could just go, but he's the opposite. He's been through a lot of trauma in his life and all he's ever wanted is a family and he's finally got that. He's got his happy ever after.

I'm just feeling so unfulfilled. There isn't this big spark, this chemistry between us. There's no natural gravitation towards each other. No touching the small of your back when they walk past, no touches on the arm, no kind of coming over to you in a group, just little things like that to me speak loudly. He doesn't talk about his feelings, which I struggle with, not all the time but occasionally I do want to hear that I'm loved, I do want to hear why, I do want little compliments. I don't want to only peck on the lips hello and goodbye, I don't want to only kiss properly during (very occasional) sex. There's no oomph for me.

I've got to admit I've got a doubt that he really is that one person for me. I imagine myself all the time in way more passionate situations and crave that. I think about my ex's and how different it was a lot.

We are however, comfortable. Family life works ok as long as I compromise on all those things above. If I can get used to not being touched much. Get used to not feeling very loved. We get along and don't argue much, we can enjoy each other's company watching TV (from different ends of the sofa), we're good parents and our child is happy.

Do I want to throw away my child's two parent family, the house, the stability. All of it. For passion? Is life just a trade off and I'll meet someone I have that fire with but is a bad step dad? Or ends up leaving me? I just can't work out what to do here but I'm 26 years old and I feel like I'm writing off so much of what I want.

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MyAltAccount · 30/04/2021 09:26

You have a child to consider here. The decision you make will have a massive impact on their whole life, so think very carefully before jumping ship.

You've identified a problem. It sounds like the conversations you're having are not resolving it so you need to do something different. Maybe he doesn't realise how strongly you feel about this, or how precarious your relationship has become? If you continue as you are it is not going to magically fix itself.

It does sound like involving a councillor now would be a good option. Then everything can come out into the open. Maybe you'll discover some more about how he feels and then find some common ground.

It is worth making the effort to try and save what you have.

LaceyBetty · 30/04/2021 09:36

I feel for you OP. What a bad situation to be in. I just don't think you are in love with him and probably never were. I know others are saying the type of love you are describing is unrealistic, but I don't agree. I can't see how there is any turning back now that you've identified quite clearly, as far as I'm concerned, how much you are not in love with this man. It will be hard, but you should leave. Your feelings won't change and this shouldn't be your forever.

Meruem · 30/04/2021 09:38

I can absolutely see why everyone is saying don’t give up what you have. A good man is hard to find. But you’re only 26. You potentially have 40-50 years ahead of you with this man. That’s a long long time.

I’m in my 50’s and I couldn’t live with “very occasional” sex, and no hugs or affection. So I am surprised so many posters are saying this is normal. Also when you are in your 50s he’ll be close to 70.

I agree that counselling is the way forward. Absolutely make an effort to save what you have. That way you know you tried. Hopefully it will work but if it doesn’t then I think you’d be sacrificing too much for the sake of stability. Definitely don’t get married in the meantime.

rainbowfairydust · 30/04/2021 09:41

I agree with another op, go to some relationship therapy or counselling... I don't know that you will find what you're looking for... And if you do, I'm sure there will be anothet downside to that relationship that you will want to fix...

lostinthislife · 30/04/2021 09:55

It's just so hard. Reading all of this confuses me so much more. It's so split. I know the only person who can make the decision is me but I'm totally lost and I can't deal with the pressure. I'm just going to implode soon.

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bumpertobumper · 30/04/2021 10:08

Many people have suggested counselling - together and/or separately- and sorry if I missed it but I don't think you have said what your thoughts are on this...
You are confused, it is a difficult situation. Talking it through with a trained objective nonjudgmental person would help.
Is this something you can consider ?

lostinthislife · 30/04/2021 10:10

I'm currently having nhs counselling, I've had a few sessions, she mainly talks about mindfulness, yoga. I've not found it much help really. I can suggest couples counselling, I'm not sure if he'd be keen. He's not the talking type.

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FoxgloveBee · 30/04/2021 10:11

You seem to be approaching this thinking there is one person in the world for you. That's not at all the case.

I think if you left you may find that the grass is not greener.

Eviethyme · 30/04/2021 10:13

Sounds like you want a film romance... They don't exist, maybe for the first few months but they always settle and life becomes normal. I can't tell you what to do but I can say your setting yourself up for failure if you think love is like that

Redburnett · 30/04/2021 10:16

Prioritise your child rather than your own feelings. once you have children your number one responsibility is to them.

CatherinedeBourgh · 30/04/2021 10:17

My mother left her good, stable husband for a guy who was great in bed but destroyed the family.

Noe in her 70s, I doubt she feels a few years of great sex were worth it. I know she is constantly saying she wishes things were different between everyone in the family, but it’s too late now.

Shodan · 30/04/2021 10:18

It seems to me that the amount of time and energy you've spent talking about this, agonising over it, is a clear indication that this isn't the man you should marry. It really shouldn't be this hard.

He does sound like a good man. Maybe he deserves more from a partner than one who has to talk herself into marriage with him.

zoemum2006 · 30/04/2021 10:20

My mum had me young and when she was in her early 30s had a bit of a 'midlife crisis' and had a long term affair with a man (my parents never separated though).

I cannot begin to tell you how that affected me and my respect for my mother (you wouldn't know it though because I keep it inside).

This colours how I am responding to your post, which isn't very fair to you, but you need to consider the ramifications of what you do on your child.

Possibly it would be better to get this out of your system now so your son doesn't have to live through your Grand Passion.

lostinthislife · 30/04/2021 10:31

It shouldn't be this hard. I know that. The thing is everytime I decide I have to leave all the doubt sets in. Are things this hard because I'm constantly at home alone with a toddler. Are things this hard because I'm depressed. Are things this hard because covid has made everything feel crap. Are things this hard because I'm spending 10+ hours a day locked into my phone and not into my life. I feel like a failure of a mother. A shit partner. A shit person. I can't figure our what I want. I change my mind ten times a minute. I'm so lost

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DinosaurDiana · 30/04/2021 10:36

The fireworks and passion don’t last, but you’re very young to settle.
I will also say that, and no doubt I’ll get roasted alive by people saying I’m wrong, but there’s 11 years between me and DH and if I knew then what I knew now, I would have walked away. Hind sight is great though.
I would say that, if you’re having doubts now, don’t get married. Get your own bank account with your wages paid into it, get a pension, and see how it goes.

SuperJune · 30/04/2021 10:39

ThanksThanks to you OP. PPs all have much wiser words than me but I wanted to express my empathy for how difficult this is for you. I hope you're able to make a decision and feel better soon, whatever you decide to do

zoemum2006 · 30/04/2021 10:48

@lostinthislife

Reading your update it sounds like you have many more issues than just the spark between you and your partner.

Maybe you need to make some changes (like go back to work/ study) and this will give you the boost you need?

Maybe give yourself a year or two to improve your life before you decide it's over in your relationship?

lostinthislife · 30/04/2021 10:48

A few people have mentioned the age gap now. I've tried so hard to make my peace with that and tell myself it won't matter in future. Comments like that will send me over the edge 😭 I'm so stuck

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dreamingbohemian · 30/04/2021 10:52

I think it's okay to leave.

People keep saying the honeymoon period doesn't last but I don't think you are asking for that crazy honeymoon intensity! You want hugs and affection and more sex, that is all completely normal, especially when you're only 26. I've been with DH for 15+ years, we still have all the things you want, it's not weird.

You might be lonely if you leave but I agree with PP that being lonely within a relationship is so much worse.

I think you settled down too young with a man who is not right for you and the relationship will fail at some point anyway. Better to do it now while your child is still young and won't remember any of it, and you are still young enough to build a whole new life.

dreamingbohemian · 30/04/2021 10:54

Also get a new counselor, even if you have to go private, because mindfulness is not the answer here. You need to properly think through why you make the decisions you make, and how you can change things if you want to.

Treetops73 · 30/04/2021 10:58

I do feel for you OP. And even more so for your partner.

Forget about whether you might meet someone else and have great passion. The bottom line is you don’t love your partner. And that alone is the reason to leave. If you don’t love him now after 4 years together, you never will.

Could you really take your wedding vows, knowing how you feel? If you feel like this now, what will it be like in 10 years time? And what kind of example will you be setting for your child, with at least one parent resentful and unhappy, and possibly having an affair? Better for them to have two happy parents apart than unhappy parents together.

As PPs have said, you are young. You have a long life ahead of you. Be brave. 💐

Fireflygal · 30/04/2021 11:13

Are things this hard because I'm constantly at home alone with a toddler. Are things this hard because I'm depressed. Are things this hard because covid has made everything feel crap. Are things this hard because I'm spending 10+ hours a day locked into my phone and not into my life

Yes to all of this. If your fulfillment in life ONLY comes from a relationship then you will focus on the negatives. Having a toddler during lockdown must be torture and I know many mums in good relationships who would have gone mad had they not gone back to work.

My advice. Take the focus off the relationship and put it on yourself. What do you want to do in life? What goals do you have? I sense you are craving excitement which is understandable but many people don't have that due to Covid, especially if they were at home with a toddler.

Don't throw out your relationship yet..focus on one personal goal and if your partner is a good man he will support you in achieving that goal. If not then you have other reasons to leave a relationship other than lack of sex.

What are your career plans?

mermaidsariel · 30/04/2021 11:23

@lostinthislife

It shouldn't be this hard. I know that. The thing is everytime I decide I have to leave all the doubt sets in. Are things this hard because I'm constantly at home alone with a toddler. Are things this hard because I'm depressed. Are things this hard because covid has made everything feel crap. Are things this hard because I'm spending 10+ hours a day locked into my phone and not into my life. I feel like a failure of a mother. A shit partner. A shit person. I can't figure our what I want. I change my mind ten times a minute. I'm so lost
I really feel for you but I wonder how your toddler feels when you’re in the phone 10 hours a day? How is this even possible with a young child? Anyone would be depressed if you’re stuck at home all day under these circumstances. You need to find hobbies and interests. A fulfilling job and friends . Start there, as others have said. Also get a good counsellor.
lostinthislife · 30/04/2021 13:10

Toddler probably feels neglected. I'm being a rubbish mum. I am focusing too much on whether this is the right relationship or if I'd be happier with someone else. I never think about being happy on my own. This is another reason why I talk myself out of leaving because what if I'm the problem and we could work through these things... I guess the one thing we can never work through is the age gap and so many people on here have warned me against it that confuses me even more. I hate this so much.

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MrsSchrute · 30/04/2021 13:26

OP my advice would be to do everything in your power to make this relationship work if at all possible. Make the decision to think positively about him, go to counselling, both alone and together, carve out time together just the two of you.
That way, even if in six months nothing has changed you will know that you did absolutely everything you could to make the relationship work, and can walk away safe in that knowledge.
Also, stop fantasising about some hypothetical perfect future relationship, and work on yourself, so that you would be happily single if this didn't work out.

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