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Is this normal or controlling?

167 replies

user155694647 · 13/04/2021 18:35

Hello

Please can I ask for some advice? I've been with my husband for 8 years and I don't know if things are okay between us. I was only 18 when we got together and I felt so grown up but looking back I was a bit immature. I was unhappy at my parents and just wanted to get out and we moved in together and got married very quickly. We've no kids yet.

Our life is lovely most of the time, but I had a conversation with my sister and she said some things don't seem right and she was worried about me? Sorry if one of these is TMI but this is what I told her:

  • When we watched the Bake Off I said I might apply next time as I love to bake and like to think I'm good at it. He said "why do you want to do that, you wouldn't win?!" this is an example but he does say stuff like this to me fairly often
  • We had a really strange start to our sex life. I'd had sex before and he said he had too, but it took us two years to sleep together. We did other stuff just not full sex, and the first few times we did he told me how shit I was at it. He wants it often now but I don't enjoy doing it that much and I always have these things in the back of my mind and I never have an orgasm because I'm so worried I'm being awful or embarassing
  • He has quite a good job and earns a decent amount and doesn't like me working. I work as a nursery nurse and I love it so much so that I don't want to leave but I have gone part time but he does bug me often about when we have kids I'll have to give it up fully and he wishes I would give it up now, that he can take care of us financially and he would rather me be home. I feel guilty that I don't quit because he says other women would jump at the chance. I would like to get a degree in early childhood studies that I can do at college while I'm working but he says there's no point doing it and getting into debt when we'll have kids soon and I won't be working then
  • He doesn't like drinking or going out, so we don't really. We don't have McDonalds or KFC as he doesn't like them. He looks down on people who do do those things. I do things without him sometimes but not very often as he can be a bit moody about it and for example if I go out on a Saturday things will be miserable on Sunday and he might give me silent treatment which I really hate or he'll just be grumpy about everything

My sister said he seems controlling but I think that these are just the low points and anyone else in a relationship would have similar things they could say but people just don't talk about the bad bits of their relationships in public. She said I should post on here to see what other people thought?

Sorry if this is too long or I'm just being silly x

OP posts:
sassafras123 · 13/04/2021 21:28

Just get out now and live your life . You have so much ahead of you, don't think twice .

Babygotblueyes · 13/04/2021 21:29

BTW - meant to add - the more dependent you are on him (no qualifications, no job or independent income, children) the worse his behaviour will be. No ifs, ands or buts. Please listen to what the people who love you are telling you.

Time40 · 13/04/2021 21:30

Listen to your sister. This isn't normal. He's controlling you. Get out as fast as you can, OP.

Yes he is controlling even if its only subtle

Only subtle? It's not subtle; it's a full-on attempt at total control.

ChronicallyCurious · 13/04/2021 21:47

Sounds like he wants to completely isolate you whilst also crushing your self esteem so you never think you’re good enough for anyone else (or him) so you don’t leave him. Get rid.

Sparky888 · 13/04/2021 21:55

I agree with others, he doesn’t sound like he wants the best for you, or for you to be happy. He wants what he wants, regardless of your feelings. In my experience this gets worse. It already seems quite extreme, to have really reduced your life, what you want, what you like. I hope you get away and feel free from him. He won’t change.

scotgal2017 · 13/04/2021 21:55

As an ex married 42 years old lady who got together with her husband at 17 and a half, and had 20 years of abuse (and 2 DC), please, please don't be me. Leave now, don't look back. Get your degree, live your life and be happy. Your life should not be this way. Pleaae don't be me and stay/have kids with this man. He left 4 years ago and even though I'm happier, I'm still healing from the damage and it's gonna take years. You've already had 8 years of his crap, don't give him more of you. He doesn't deserve it!

AliceMcK · 13/04/2021 21:58

He’s definitely controlling, I agree with others do not have children with him. I’d run now and live your life which you havnt been able to do since being with him. Get your degree, travel, enjoy being young x

OolieMacdoolie · 13/04/2021 22:06

He’s a dick, he is controlling, he’s trying to push you into financial dependence on him, and he’s shit in bed. Please get out before you’re trapped by kids.

Season1Episode1 · 13/04/2021 22:07

Don't walk. Run.

Pansypotter123 · 13/04/2021 22:13

Whose idea was it to work part time and why?

Jenala · 13/04/2021 22:23

Oh man, your sister is right, he is SO controlling and this is not normal or acceptable. Don't leave your job. Don't end up totally financially reliant on him. He sounds awful. Being in a relationship with someone doesn't mean you can restrict them.

heartandheart · 13/04/2021 22:35

This isn't normal behaviour at all OP.
In a normal relationship you should be able to have your independence and freedom.

I would talk to your sister or someone else you trust and make a plan to leave.

There is someone out there that deserves you.

Nannyamc · 13/04/2021 22:38

A loving partner would encourage you to progress yourself. You need the outlet you have and more. Yes young couples can survive but only with equal status. He is winding you down. Your sistet has the right idea. Good luck.

PersonaNonGarter · 13/04/2021 22:45

Trust your sister.

Leave this man.

RachelRavenRoth · 13/04/2021 22:49

Omg op. No. Just no.

Get out of there now.

Nogoodusername · 13/04/2021 22:50

Extremely controlling. He wants your world as small as possible (eg not working even though you have no kids) so brag you are utterly dependent on him. Please make plans to get out

Nogoodusername · 13/04/2021 22:50

*so that (not so brag, what a weird autocorrect)

Halo1234 · 13/04/2021 22:53

Very controlling. If he loved you he would support u and would want you to have what you want, with in reason. Career goals, a mcdonalds/KFC, a job to earn your own money and spending time with friends are all within reason. To want you to stay at home and be financially dependent on him is controlling. The telling you you are bad a sex is cruel, unhelpful (it would be true it will be his insecurity speaking -act is the best form of defense and all that). Whatever u do,please don't give up your job.

MiddlesexGirl · 13/04/2021 22:53

You will never be able to live your life the way you want to. Please please leave him.

user155694647 · 14/04/2021 14:08

Thank you for all your replies. I kind of panicked last night when I saw them all coming in and have only just finished reading through everything. I really wasn't expecting it and its a lot to take in.

With going to college to do a degree, I always just thought that big decisions like that were made as a household?

He's a negative person in general, he doesnt say too much negative stuff towards me but he also will never ever compliment me. If I directly ask him for a compliment he will just say "I love you" but as nice as that is its not a compliment! And he doesnt like it if I compliment myself either.

Is it really that bad? It doesn't feel that bad. Not all the time anyway. I feel so mixed up. What do I do?

OP posts:
Quartz2208 · 14/04/2021 14:20

Go and get yourself a life OP and do the degree that you want to do. You are too young to live with regrets and be tied down by a negative person.

You escaped an unhappy house by making a slightly less unhappy one - you deserve happy

Triffid1 · 14/04/2021 14:27

He doesn't like your sister does he? I say that because men like this do everything in their power to separate their victim from her support - friends and family. Friends tend to be quite easy - as you've found, a bit of sulking when you go out and bang, it's easier for you to stay home and then the friendships just die. But family can be harder, and then inevitably they'll ramp things up to tell you how unsupportive your family is or how inappropriate or whatever.

the problem with all the things you've outlined here is that basically this man wants to be the only thing in your life. He might not even realise how disturbing and unhealthy this is. But it will only get worse because the more you concede, the more he will think his way is the only way and the right way and the more he will feel he's justified in kicking off when you do anything he doesn't like.

With going to college to do a degree, I always just thought that big decisions like that were made as a household?

Up to a point, yes. But in healthy relationship and household, if one person desperately wanted to do something like this and the family could afford it etc, the other person would be supportive and accommodating. It's not a case where in a normal relationship the other person has veto powers. And if he does... do you have veto powers for his decisions? eg what he buys? where he goes? who he sees? what job he does? Does the veto work both ways?

billy1966 · 14/04/2021 14:29

You talk to your sister.
You think hard about what you want.

We are only a bunch of internet opinions.
Is this really the life you want.
Your one life.
Would you really want this utterly controlling man as father of your child.
Would you really want to inflict him on an innocent child.

He is determined to keep your life as small, as miserable, as joyless as possible.

You ring Women's Aid and have a chat about the practicalities.
You find a good solicitor and get legal advice.

You start living your best life.
If that is what you want.

You are childless and have options.
Have children with him and you are going to fi d it so much harder to get away from and his negativity.
Flowers

Allwokedup · 14/04/2021 14:29

He’s controlling and nasty. Not normal at all. Get out. You’re still young.

PussGirl · 14/04/2021 14:34

Make sure you have good contraception. This will never improve and will definitely get worse if you have children.

He probably feels inferior to you so he's trying to drag you down and keep you contained.