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Done something really stupid and I’m so ashamed

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BeenSuchaStupidCow · 01/04/2021 23:23

NC for this because I’m so ashamed of myself, I’ve been so stupid. For the last few months I’ve been chatting to a guy I met through OLD. Because of COVID we’d never met yet. I found out a couple of weeks ago he’s married and I’m gutted, I really really liked him. Tonight I’ve done something I shouldn’t and I wish I hadn’t but it’s too late and I’m disgusted with myself. I found his wife on FB and I sent her a message telling her her man’s a cheat. And I sent her some photos he’d sent me in our chats. Now I feel so guilty that I’ve ruined this poor woman’s life and I wish I’d never said anything. It was a stupid impulse after I’d had a couple of drinks and I wish I could take them back. I can see she’s read it but she’s not replied. I keep thinking of what I’ve done and going hot with shame. Why was I so stupid and destructive?

OP posts:
Iamthewombat · 02/04/2021 12:09

Some women have even come on here and said that they only found out because they were told, and then found out everyone else knew about it. That's even more damaging really, knowing that everyone has known about it behind your back.

Yes, SOME women only find out about their husband’s infidelity because the other woman told them, but you’ll find that it’s a small minority. Women aren’t stupid, as a rule: they work out that something isn’t right.

If we’re confining it to occasions when the wife is told by somebody then the OP taking it upon herself to break the news is different to the woman’s actual friends or family telling her: they are part of her life, the OP isn’t. They want the best for her, the OP doesn’t care. They know her intimately: the OP does not. She has introduced herself to this woman’s life - a complete stranger - because she wanted to meet her own needs: revenge on the man who strung her along.

It was retribution from op, but even so, should she not have told the wife just because she wanted him exposed?

If I’ve understood this sentence correctly, you are saying, “the OP wanted this man to be exposed so why shouldn’t she tell the wife?”. Well, there are all kinds of reasons why not, which have been covered elsewhere on the thread. You don’t get to meet your own needs - revenge, exposure - with no regard for the potential impact on other people.

I’m interested to know whether the posters cheering on the OP would be OK with strangers contacting them with any kind of information “for your own good, to help you make an informed choice”. I think not. How about this:

“I saw your husband parking across two spaces at Tesco, meaning that I couldn’t get parked, and I tracked him down. I thought you should know that his behaviour is, in my opinion, reprehensible and I’ve CCd in his manager and your family. At least they now have the information to make an informed choice about whether to continue employing him, or spending time with him”

Of course parking badly isn’t as reprehensible as the idiotic behaviour of the man the OP was involved with, but as a thought experiment it’s not a million miles away: the person doing the contacting is offended, wants justice and has decided that it’s their job to deliver what they see as a just punishment. Would you be OK with that? I think not.

Her reasons for doing it dont matter here, if she had done it while sober to let the wife know her husband is a jackass, people would have still jumped on her for doing it. The person who should be being slammed is the cheater.

Nobody is ‘slamming’ the OP. That is tabloid language. She asked for opinions on her behaviour, which she herself regretted, and she got them. Her motives matter: she acted as she did for selfish reasons, and she admits it. Anything you do for those reasons is likely to damage somebody and it can’t be passed off as concern.

It is possible to disapprove of the actions of both the man and the OP in this situation, you know. It’s not like a story where there has to be a single baddie and everyone else is a goodie.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 02/04/2021 12:09

"Calm down, dear. I said that the wife wasn’t dim. See? This is what I wrote:

“The assumption behind the ‘you did the right thing’ viewpoint appears to be that this man’s wife is too dim to realise that his attention is engaged elsewhere. I bet that she isn’t.”"

Yes. I know what you wrote. What you appear to have not noticed is that you are suggesting yourself that if she HADN'T noticed it was because she was too dim, not because some men are consummate liars.
Hence my point about the Relationships boards, and some women coming on there to say that discovery of his affair has been a bolt from the blue.

DuchessOfDoombar · 02/04/2021 12:09

@BeenSuchaStupidCow another one chiming in to say you did the right thing.
Whatever your motivation you gave his wife information she can use to decide on how she proceeds with her ‘D’ h.
She may ignore, blame you, kick him out - none of that is your business now. Block and move on.

When my partner cheated, one of his OW did send me proof and I was livid - with her!
Like some PPs I thought she had a nerve to intrude on my life for her own gain, she was spiteful, petty, jealous etc.

But that anger was to protect myself from the truth of the man I loved being a compulsive cheat and liar.

He had many, many affairs, emotional and physical, and almost all of his affair partners were from OLD and all were told he was single. At one point he was talking to several women at the same time and all were getting the faked future and dick pics spiel so you aren’t the only one to fall for that. Men like this are highly skilled. And totally without conscience.

In hindsight I wish I had taken those first messages seriously and thrown him out then instead of years later.

It’s a horrible shock to get proof that your partner is cheating but gives you some power back in a shitty situation.

He’s a despicable person OP and deserves to face the consequences of his actions.

Take care of yourself now and go easy.

Bluntness100 · 02/04/2021 12:10

No it wasn't handled well, but a lot of posters are trying to say she shouldn't have said at all. That's wrong as well

Not necessarily, what if the op found out the woman had end stage cancer. What if she has significant mental health problems and is suicidal? What if she knows and is in a deeply abusive marriage and seeing it like this caused her unthinkable pain? What if, what if, what if. That’s the thing, the op didn’t know. Would you still say the op did right in sending her all those messages, multiple sex pics with no prior engagement with her, no knowledge of whom she was interacting with and the potential level of pain being caused? He did very wrong, but two wrongs don’t make a right, and you youtself being hurt does not mean you get to hurt someone else.

That’s the point posters are trying to make. The method in which the op did it was cruel. It was intended to cause maximum pain. But she has no idea who she was causing pain to. No idea of the circumstances. No idea of what was going on in this.

And what if one of her kids saw the messages, one of her kids was on her Facebook. My daughter has full access to mine. If she was on my iPad she’d likely click on any messages to let me know what came through. What if a young kid saw multiple pics of her dads dick, and the messages showing what he was saying.

There are so many unknowns here. Without knowing who was reading those messages and their circumstances there is no way to know if the op did right or wrong. One thing she should have done is confirmed who she was messaging. At the very least.

CourchevelCornichon · 02/04/2021 12:12

iamwombat
So if I knew you had been cheated on, would you want me to keep it to myself? If your husband sent me dick pics, sexted me... would you just not want to know? Genuinely interested to know.

Aneley · 02/04/2021 12:12

I would want to know. There's no good way to deliver bad news and the facts that he cheated wouldn't have changed if delivered by someone else, or in a different manner. If it was me, I'd be grateful you opened my eyes.

Grumpylate20s · 02/04/2021 12:13

Ahh well, just be safe in the knowledge that you didnt sleep with him...
Tbf you've probably done his wife a favour, these things always come to bite you in the arse eventually. Good on ya I say!

Bluntness100 · 02/04/2021 12:13

@CourchevelCornichon

iamwombat So if I knew you had been cheated on, would you want me to keep it to myself? If your husband sent me dick pics, sexted me... would you just not want to know? Genuinely interested to know.
But you, me, the op none of us know if she let the op know. The messages may have been read first of all by someone else. Inc a child. She has no clue who read those messages she sent. You cannot assume someone’s face book is locked down from their family members, mine isn’t.
WiseOwlOne · 02/04/2021 12:14

Go easy on yourself @BeenSuchaStupidCow
You've been robbed of a month of your life. He raised your hopes and made you like him and made you think he liked you.

His wife didn't hurt you but this will alter their marriage (perhaps) and he not you is responsible for that.

You haven't done anything ''appalling'' and I was shocked that the very first response to you was so lacking in empathy.

sunnydaysareheretostay · 02/04/2021 12:14

You've done nothing wrong OP, in fact I would be thanking you if it was me. Many women get strung along by cheating partners / husbands to the extent they believe they are losing their minds.

You've done her a big favour.

Sorry you're feeling so bad it's not your fault he's a lying dirty cheating scum bag.

katy1213 · 02/04/2021 12:15

Cheated with a woman he's never even met? You can be convicted on MN for thought crime!

Iamthewombat · 02/04/2021 12:15

Let's support the man, shall we? Support him in his cheating. Let's all stay quiet and compliant.

Not one person on this thread has ‘supported the man’. Show us one message where somebody has.

So if I knew you had been cheated on, would you want me to keep it to myself? If your husband sent me dick pics, sexted me... would you just not want to know? Genuinely interested to know.

I would have worked out that something was going on LONG before a drunk, vengeful woman he’d been messaging for months decided to contact me “for my own good”, thanks.

Sandra15 · 02/04/2021 12:15

@JesusIsAnyNameFree

He might have been killing time and had no intention of meeting the OP. We don’t know

Killing time. Chatting to other women about god knows what. I just... Jesus. Jesus fucking Christ.

You don't go on a dating site to kill time. I know someone who did worse than the OP - she contacted the guy's 20-something son and daughter and sent them the messages about their dad's 'throbbing member' and so on. There are some terrible blokes around, there really are. I have a lot of male friends, who are just friends, who wouldn't dream of this. I wouldn't want to be friends with a man like that, never mind in a relationship.
sunnydaysareheretostay · 02/04/2021 12:15

Oh and I bet you're not the only one he's been struggling along!!

MyOtherProfile · 02/04/2021 12:16

It really wasn't you who did anything wrong OP. Draw a line under it now and move on. Including blocking his wife. You need to turn your back on it all.

I0NA · 02/04/2021 12:17

Great post @DuchessOfDoombar

WiseOwlOne · 02/04/2021 12:17

Also, without talking about individuals in this set of circumstances, men do enter in to online relationships and flirtations all the time, ''safe'' in the knowledge that nobody will discover, that nobody knows them, that it's just all going to be fine. They feel entitled to have more than one woman believing that he's being faithful to her
This isn't good for women. Not the women stuck at home minding these players' kids, nor is it good for the women on line being duped.

''We'' make it too easy for men, always thinking of dignity, grace, colluding in not hurting a cuckholded wife at home, wanting to rise above it, not wanting to be seen as bitter ................. all of that suits cheats and players.

So, throw a fucking sandbag over board and feel lighter.

gannett · 02/04/2021 12:18

Oh OP please be kinder to yourself.

I'm agnostic on whether telling the wife in this scenario is the "right" thing to do per se, or the most sensible thing - but one thing I'm sure of is that it's NOT the wrong thing to do. The only person who did the wrong thing in this situation is her cheating husband.

wewereliars · 02/04/2021 12:18

The husband deliberately went on OLD and the consequences of his choices are all on him. OP I'd say you've done the wife a favour.

NotATomato · 02/04/2021 12:22

You did the right thing. Stop beating yourself up over it. You’ve given his wife the information she can now choose what she does with it.

If it wasn’t for Covid you would have met up with him by now, probably sleeping with him and been in what you thought was a relationship. It would have been far far worse if you’d been in deeper than you were already, and far worse for his wife.

Yes you did it in anger but this is his problem, he created it, lied to you and her.

Grumpylate20s · 02/04/2021 12:23

Turn your back on it, it is what it is. The damage has been done by him... It'll eat you alive otherwise

Iamthewombat · 02/04/2021 12:25

Yes. I know what you wrote. What you appear to have not noticed is that you are suggesting yourself that if she HADN'T noticed it was because she was too dim, not because some men are consummate liars.

Nope, sorry. I’m getting tired of explaining this now, but I’ll have another go.

My position, frequently repeated, is that women are NOT stupid. They know if something is amiss in their relationship with their spouse. To suggest that the other woman has some sort of moral responsibility to inform the wife, unsolicited, of her husband’s behaviour, because how would she ever realise otherwise, assumes that she isn’t able to work out for herself that her husband might be engaging with other women.

That’s the insult: assuming that the poor dear is clueless and needs a stranger’s help, whether she needs it or not.

Bluntness100 · 02/04/2021 12:26

I also don’t think I know any man who would do this, but then it’s not something anyone would likely admit to.

However I think it’s quite common, look at the many on line dating threads on here, plenty of time wasters, married men, who have no intention of ever meeting and are just stringing the woman along cor an ego boost and a cheap sexual thrill. From what I can see it’s surprisingly common where many of the women know how to spot the red flags,,don’t want to meet within a couple of weeks, then it’s a no, bring sex into it without meeting, then it’s a no, and many other obvious red flags.

Bluntness100 · 02/04/2021 12:27

If it wasn’t for Covid you would have met up with him by now, probably sleeping with him and been in what you thought was a relationship

I very much doubt it, I think he picked the op specifically because she was several hours away and couldn’t meet up, Covid was a convenient excuse. I don’t think he ever intended to meet her and was just lying throughout.

TrialOfStyle · 02/04/2021 12:27

I think you need to be kind to yourself here, OP. The wife has a lying, cheating husband but you’ve not come out unscathed either. You were led to believe it was moving into something serious and meaningful and he’s ripped that away from YOU too!

The only guilty party in this situation is him. Move away from the situation and take some time to process and mourn for yourself too. Flowers

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