Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Advice please on sex

222 replies

Peanuts01 · 18/02/2021 09:25

Hi I have just joined here. I have been with my boyfriend 10 years, we have two boys 5 and 7. When we first go together I was 19 and we had sex all the time, he did tell me that he had a high sex drive and that he liked a lot of sex. But at the start we were doing it all the time I thought it's never going to change. But it did.
So there were ups and downs in the bedroom department until our first son Was born. I had a c section and wasn't interested in sex but after about a month he put pressure on, saying everyone else does it sooner and moaning about it. Do I gave in to shut him up.
Then after our second son again he pressured me. I had given birth naturally this time and had stitches. I was constipated and really not wanting sex. But he said that everyone does it a couple of weeks after and that we should. So I gave in again. I didn't enjoy it.
He has always wanted to have a mmf threesome, something I'm not up for. And started hinting at it and also suggesting swinging. He said it would make my sex drive come back. I told him it's not for me. Eventually he joined a swinging website.to show me couples. I said to him if he wants he can talk to people but not do anything. And he wasn't aloud to show them photos of my face.
Soon he was talking to a couple and he added Kik messenger on my phone so I could talk to them. I said no I'm not taking to them. He was annoyed and said it makes it look like he is lying to them he has a partner. After I bit of arguing he let slip that he had sent photos of me, my face. I was furious. But eventually he talked his way out of that.
A year passes and he starts telling me that he loves me, but isn't in love with me. So I sit and think. I'm selfish to expect him to live the rest of his life with out trying swinging. So I told him I would maybe try. Eventually we went to a club, it was aweful I didn't do anything just went for a look. So he said we will try another and went to a different one, it's expensive to get in and I felt I had to do something so he wouldn't be annoyed so we had sex together just us. We went back a second time and I thought he is going to be expecting more this time so we met a couple. I was in now way attracted to them. We went to a room and started having sex he wanted me to let the man be inside me so I let him. But it was horrific, I was dry and uncomfortable so I said stop, apologized and went to get my clothes. Then my boyfriend looked and me and said I'm not finished so I had to lay down again and wait for him to be done.
When we left he was so happy, and expressed how much he loved me.
That was the end of any swinging for me much to his annoyance.
Now I am stuck, we hardly have sex I never feel turned on.
He keeps telling me if I don't put out he will go elsewhere. During the Christmas holidays he told me if he knew he wasn't getting any he would of stayed at work.

I feel shit, I should want sex with him but I just can't do it. I told him how I feel and he says he doesn't want split up. On valentine's Day he spent the whole day ignoring me because he hadn't had any. He mutters things under his breath at me. He is always pointing out "fit women" on TV or if we go anywhere he makes it obvious he is looking at them.
Sometimes he will do some housework and expect sex in return for it.

Currently I feel so lost. I feel bad to leave him because we have kids and he says he loves me. I don't want to hurt them. I don't know if I am just over sensitive.

Please give me advice on what I should do

OP posts:
SakuraEdenSwan1 · 18/02/2021 22:41

He has broke the law sending photos of you without your consent, he is a manipulative dick, report him, kick him out and enjoy your life living without the fear of a horrible man treating you like this.

Doyoumind · 18/02/2021 22:43

This is a horribly sad thread.

He's a lying, abusive piece of shit.

Your life and your dc's lives will be far better away from him. He will have to pay you maintenance. You need help and counselling to understand what he has done to you.

doingthehoovering · 18/02/2021 22:59

You have got to leave and soon

SoulofanAggron · 18/02/2021 23:06

I am "other people" and I don't have sex very often; waited 6 months after giving birth before sex both times; do not swing or have threesomes. Anyone else?

@sleepyhead1980 I don't have children. I've done that stuff but primarily due to (in my case) mental illness, lack of assertiveness, and sexual coercion. I don't think it's stuff I'dve wanted to do in the normal run of things. Certainly not now. You're not alone @Peanuts01 xxxxx

I've done it but it doesn't mean I'm a fan of it or it's what everyone does.

There are a fair few men to some extent like this around sadly. Sad

Single and no sex with anyone else for well over a year, but it's not because I'm abnormal as such. Just enjoying the breather after the bellend I was with.

SoulofanAggron · 18/02/2021 23:07

Some women might do it and that's ok if they really want it.

Branleuse · 18/02/2021 23:15

Jeez OP. Theres a reason that youre not getting aroused by this guy. Its because hes a gross creepy rapist who abuses you and doesnt give a shit about your needs or what YOU like and dont like sexually or emotionally. That is honestly NOT what most relationships are like.
I dont think you can change him. Hes an abuser and youve already put up with it too long

postcardfromme · 18/02/2021 23:46

I can't believe this! I am shocked. I am so pleased that you have your own money and income. Well done! Please make a plan - maybe call womens aid and speak to someone before you leave. This man sound like a nutter. Stay safe OP. I'm so sorry that this has been your life. Please leave this piece of shit and take your children so they don't grow up with him as a role model. I want to punch him!!!
Don't let him get a whiff of your plans to leave. Take care sweetheart xx

Diamondella · 18/02/2021 23:53

OMG you poor thing this is horrific! Please just LEAVE he’s sound utterly vile and you are worthy of so much more than this!

PickAChew · 18/02/2021 23:55

He's an utter twat. It's not a turn on.

Onthedunes · 19/02/2021 00:08

You are 29 still young.

Leave!!!

Find someone else, anybody would be better than him.
Leave him to his seedy life.

You really deserve better.

Flowers
REignbow · 19/02/2021 01:09

As PP have said, that contract is a pile of shite! Just nod and smile and put in a claim to the CSA.

I also think you should leave immediately and would end your tenancy (or at least your have your name taken off the tenancy).

Fabiofatshaft · 19/02/2021 01:58

Wow, just wow

And not in a good way. You have been brainwashed and abused for years and in some extraneously contemporary way, so have your children. They surely must have picked up on your ‘ unhappy and hurting vibes ‘

There is a fantastic life out there for you and your children after some initial bumps in the road......

Please, please take it.

Bless 🙏

Grumpasaurus · 19/02/2021 02:13

God I could have written this post 10-11 years ago. Almost identical sexual abuse and coercion, forcing me to swing, forcing me to let him watch me have sex with other men or perform for them. Convincing me I wanted a it, that he wouldn't love me unless I did, that I wasn't good enough, that other girls were sexier, that he loved me but wasn't in love with me. He was 18 years older. God he did a number on me and holy did I believe I loved him.

Thankfully we never had children and we never lived together. I was still with him for over 3 years- though rarely "officially" so he could keep me hanging / I would do what he wanted for him to say he loved me and wanted to be with me properly.

Sick fucker.

I tried to leave so many times and ended up going back. Then he raped me with another man, told me I wanted it but if anyone judged I could just tell them that he made me do it. Then something happened (I can't even remember what specifically), and he locked me outside. I was hysterical and called and called him. He refused to answer. I knew it was bad when I walked up to the main road where there was a bench; I sat down and was crying. The local homeless guy who I knew (to say hello to) gave me a cigarette and said I deserved better. I didn't even smoke but I did smoke that cigarette.

Finally I left for good.

Then went to therapy for a long old time to think about what led me there, and more importantly, what kept me there.

He would swear blind everything we did was consensual and he treated me well.

Cunt.

get out op, and don't go back.

25yearsnhsworker · 19/02/2021 08:29

@Grumpasaurus

God I could have written this post 10-11 years ago. Almost identical sexual abuse and coercion, forcing me to swing, forcing me to let him watch me have sex with other men or perform for them. Convincing me I wanted a it, that he wouldn't love me unless I did, that I wasn't good enough, that other girls were sexier, that he loved me but wasn't in love with me. He was 18 years older. God he did a number on me and holy did I believe I loved him.

Thankfully we never had children and we never lived together. I was still with him for over 3 years- though rarely "officially" so he could keep me hanging / I would do what he wanted for him to say he loved me and wanted to be with me properly.

Sick fucker.

I tried to leave so many times and ended up going back. Then he raped me with another man, told me I wanted it but if anyone judged I could just tell them that he made me do it. Then something happened (I can't even remember what specifically), and he locked me outside. I was hysterical and called and called him. He refused to answer. I knew it was bad when I walked up to the main road where there was a bench; I sat down and was crying. The local homeless guy who I knew (to say hello to) gave me a cigarette and said I deserved better. I didn't even smoke but I did smoke that cigarette.

Finally I left for good.

Then went to therapy for a long old time to think about what led me there, and more importantly, what kept me there.

He would swear blind everything we did was consensual and he treated me well.

Cunt.

get out op, and don't go back.

Another horrific story. I hope you are in a better happier place now Flowers
Karwomannghia · 19/02/2021 08:39

Go to your mum’s straight away. Don’t be too proud. Time to think about yourself now and stop trying to please a monster.

AntiHop · 19/02/2021 08:57

I'm glad you are ending your relationship. I really would stay with your mum. That would give you a chance to save up some money too.

I know you realise that his behaviour is not acceptable. But just to share how my DH behaves. When I had my first child, I wasn't ready for sex for 6 months. Never any pressure from him. I'm currently pregnant with my second, and haven't felt like sex for a couple of months due to pregnancy related health problems. Again, no pressure from DH.

Mabelface · 19/02/2021 08:59

Lovely, if you were my daughter, I'd want to you to come to me so you could be safe. You may be an adult, but you're still your mother's child and I guarantee that she'd want you out of there immediately.

withmycoffee · 19/02/2021 09:50

This Nan has abused you for years. He has not considered you for a single second. You don't need sex advice. You need relationship advise. Do you think someone who loved you would demand things of you that you don't want to do? Clue here... no. They wouldn't. Please leave. You are in a horribly abusive relationship and one day you will understand the gravity of the horror

withmycoffee · 19/02/2021 09:55

[quote Peanuts01]@gaijinetal child maintenance is another problem, we were going to split up in 2019 and he wrote out a contract to say that i would not ask him for maintenence. He said he would pay for stuff for the kids like clothes etc. He has a child from a previous relationship and has always grudged paying his ex wife he even fiddled it so he payed less money[/quote]
Yeah, it doesn't work like this. A) why would you sign that contract and B) it's not a legal contract to sign away their parental responsibility

Karwomannghia · 19/02/2021 10:21

I think anyone looking at that contract would see it’s evidence of abuse.

Miltonj · 19/02/2021 10:25

Please, please get rid of this 'man'.

He does not love or respect you. I would go as far as to say he doesn't view you as a human being but only as sexual gratification. He is manipulative and abusive and has made you feel as though you are to blame.

There is a much better life out there for you. You deserve respect and love. Someone doing something nice for you, for the sole purpose of making you happy, with no ulterior motive or agenda. It may seem impossible to carve out a new life for yourself and your kids but you can do it! And you will look back and thank yourself so much.

Peanuts01 · 19/02/2021 10:40

he has taken the day of today to spend with the kids, he has gone out with them. I think he was expecting me to go with them. I was tidying their room and he came to me and said "so what, thats it then?" and i told him yes we are just going round in circles. he said "you are being selfish, your not thinking of the kids or me(him)" and then he said "i bet there is someone else"
there is no one else, thats really the last thing i want. He doesnt seem to think i can leave him of my own accord just for my own sake

OP posts:
Peanuts01 · 19/02/2021 10:53

@Grumpasaurus im sorry that you have been in a similar situation. i have the same problem he thinks i wanted to do these things. He has told me various reasons like it will make me want it more, lots of people do it, that i was boring he even told me once he "didn't want to have boring sex with me for the rest of his life" he often tells me that i lay there like a sack of potatoes and need to put effort in. I do just lay there sometimes and its purely for him

OP posts:
gaijinetal · 19/02/2021 11:15

@Peanuts01

he has taken the day of today to spend with the kids, he has gone out with them. I think he was expecting me to go with them. I was tidying their room and he came to me and said "so what, thats it then?" and i told him yes we are just going round in circles. he said "you are being selfish, your not thinking of the kids or me(him)" and then he said "i bet there is someone else" there is no one else, thats really the last thing i want. He doesnt seem to think i can leave him of my own accord just for my own sake
Selfish; the irony coming from him.

Strangely enough it would be better for your kids if their Mum is happy & relaxed and not in a sexually abusive, coercive "relationship". He actually sounds financially abusive too, because you are making up for his excessive outgoings. (It might not be financial abuse I suppose if you had a happy, equal, kind relationship but you don't. It's just another thing he's using you for/taking advantage of you for).

gaijinetal · 19/02/2021 11:16

"i bet there is someone else"

We that would be the thinking of a scum bag like him.

Swipe left for the next trending thread