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Advice please on sex

222 replies

Peanuts01 · 18/02/2021 09:25

Hi I have just joined here. I have been with my boyfriend 10 years, we have two boys 5 and 7. When we first go together I was 19 and we had sex all the time, he did tell me that he had a high sex drive and that he liked a lot of sex. But at the start we were doing it all the time I thought it's never going to change. But it did.
So there were ups and downs in the bedroom department until our first son Was born. I had a c section and wasn't interested in sex but after about a month he put pressure on, saying everyone else does it sooner and moaning about it. Do I gave in to shut him up.
Then after our second son again he pressured me. I had given birth naturally this time and had stitches. I was constipated and really not wanting sex. But he said that everyone does it a couple of weeks after and that we should. So I gave in again. I didn't enjoy it.
He has always wanted to have a mmf threesome, something I'm not up for. And started hinting at it and also suggesting swinging. He said it would make my sex drive come back. I told him it's not for me. Eventually he joined a swinging website.to show me couples. I said to him if he wants he can talk to people but not do anything. And he wasn't aloud to show them photos of my face.
Soon he was talking to a couple and he added Kik messenger on my phone so I could talk to them. I said no I'm not taking to them. He was annoyed and said it makes it look like he is lying to them he has a partner. After I bit of arguing he let slip that he had sent photos of me, my face. I was furious. But eventually he talked his way out of that.
A year passes and he starts telling me that he loves me, but isn't in love with me. So I sit and think. I'm selfish to expect him to live the rest of his life with out trying swinging. So I told him I would maybe try. Eventually we went to a club, it was aweful I didn't do anything just went for a look. So he said we will try another and went to a different one, it's expensive to get in and I felt I had to do something so he wouldn't be annoyed so we had sex together just us. We went back a second time and I thought he is going to be expecting more this time so we met a couple. I was in now way attracted to them. We went to a room and started having sex he wanted me to let the man be inside me so I let him. But it was horrific, I was dry and uncomfortable so I said stop, apologized and went to get my clothes. Then my boyfriend looked and me and said I'm not finished so I had to lay down again and wait for him to be done.
When we left he was so happy, and expressed how much he loved me.
That was the end of any swinging for me much to his annoyance.
Now I am stuck, we hardly have sex I never feel turned on.
He keeps telling me if I don't put out he will go elsewhere. During the Christmas holidays he told me if he knew he wasn't getting any he would of stayed at work.

I feel shit, I should want sex with him but I just can't do it. I told him how I feel and he says he doesn't want split up. On valentine's Day he spent the whole day ignoring me because he hadn't had any. He mutters things under his breath at me. He is always pointing out "fit women" on TV or if we go anywhere he makes it obvious he is looking at them.
Sometimes he will do some housework and expect sex in return for it.

Currently I feel so lost. I feel bad to leave him because we have kids and he says he loves me. I don't want to hurt them. I don't know if I am just over sensitive.

Please give me advice on what I should do

OP posts:
KirstenBlest · 18/02/2021 18:45

Only read the OP.

You've been raped.
Your partner is a rapist.

Get out and take your DC with you.

EarthSight · 18/02/2021 19:12

You are being horribly sexually abused. Never have sex with him, or anyone else he wants you to have sex with ever again. Let him cheat if he wants to. Good riddance.

It sounds like he didn't want a girlfriend or longterm partner (as in someone he really cares about). Your main role is to fulfil his sexual wants. Even just a few sentences in it was awful - pressuring you to have sex only a fucking month after giving birth. His treatment of you is absolutely disgusting, abusive and uncaring. His main relationship is with his penis, not you.

Just because a man says he loves you, doesn't mean he does (no matter how convincing he might be, not matter how hard he cries when you leave). When that vile man kissed your head and said he loved you after being that club, what he actually meant was 'I really loved my time doing this at this club'. He was just thrilled he managed to bully you into it. That is not love. You really need to speak to Women's Aid urgently.

Peanuts01 · 18/02/2021 19:29

@Haffiana yes he does watch a lot of porn and follows a lot of groups on facebook where men share pictures of their wives. I am self employed and have my own business. I would have more than enough money to live on my own. We currently rent our house, which i guess is good in this situation

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chocolateorangeinhaler · 18/02/2021 19:30

This is coercive behavior OP. It will destroy you if you allow it to continue. The relationship needs to end now.
He sounds extremely manipulative. It's not exactly the sort of thing you can tell your mum about and he will be comfortable in the knowledge that's why you won't tell anyone. Delete yourself from any websites he has you on if you can and end it if you feel you can. It's no longer a relationship.

Peanuts01 · 18/02/2021 19:31

@SoulofanAggron im going to look for a house, and when one comes up i will tell him very short notice. I would move out now and stay with my mum, but i dont want to mess the kids around a lot and make them feel unsettled

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Wanderlusto · 18/02/2021 19:33

Wtf...'where men share pictures of their wives'. Omg that's terrifying. And illegal, assuming their wives dont know and aren't clothed? I'd be worried about what pictures he has of you.

Seriously creepy bastard.

That's good news about renting. Hope you can get off/him off the lease pronto.

Chickenkatsu · 18/02/2021 19:34

@Peanuts01 the sooner you're out of there the better for your kids

Peanuts01 · 18/02/2021 19:34

@chocolateorangeinhaler it has already messed my mind up. But i have to say hearing from everyone here has helped me so much. Im looking forward to moving on, just me and the kids

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Apileofballyhoo · 18/02/2021 19:34

I'm so pleased you have your own money coming in, OP. Well done.

Wanderlusto · 18/02/2021 19:36

If you're leaving anyway then go stay with mum. Better they are unsettled than you are at risk.

Either way, might be wise to move any important documents (passports) somewhere safe like your mums before you move. Incase he gets wind i
Of things. And take details on any Bill's you pay so that you can call and cancel your involvement in them when you leave.

Peanuts01 · 18/02/2021 19:37

@Wanderlusto there are two groups that i know of one is called "truckers bingo" and the other is "lampshade lovers" there are more but i dont know what they are. You have to be invited to join them, i dont even think they come up if you search them

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Wanderlusto · 18/02/2021 19:38

Assuming that your mum will be supportive btw?

Because either she has not known what has been going on at all or theres something seriously up with her too if she hasn't been advising you to leave.

Peanuts01 · 18/02/2021 19:40

@Wanderlusto my mum is aware of some of the issues and has offered for me to stay. I said if it gets too uncomfortable i will, but i dont want to burden her with me and my problems. I feel like because im an adult i should stand on my own two feet

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Loopyloututu · 18/02/2021 19:46

OMG! Shockthis is possibly the worst thing I’ve ever heard in 5 years on mumsnet. You poor thing. He basically stood there and watched while you were raped!

chocolateorangeinhaler · 18/02/2021 19:47

@Peanuts01 my first partner was very similar. 15 years older than me. Charming until we had a mortgage together then it all changed. He stopped working, told me everyone hated me or thought I was weird told me doing web cam vids for strangers was normal. Progressed to threesomes. When I refused to do anyMore he ended the relationship. I had been so controlled I though my life was over at 25. Took a while to get over it. But I did and life is an awful lot better without him. Your kids will thank you because you will be happy. Don't stay because you think it will upset them to leave.

Blueuggboots · 18/02/2021 19:47

Your husband is a prize cunt. Leave him as soon as physically possible and don't look back.
You should consider reporting him to the police. Controlling and coercive behaviour is a crime.
Good luck!!

SoulofanAggron · 18/02/2021 19:49

Let's see how much he'd like it if you decided you're into pegging him, and went on and on and on about it about how all your other friends do it so what's the problem, and that he should be less boring and open to trying new things.

@randommum82 Shh, some of them like it Shock

EarthSight · 18/02/2021 19:53

@chocolateorangeinhaler Jesus what is it with me who are 15 years older than their wives. I'm not sure if people are rounding it to the middle (so saying 15 instead of 16 for example) but it's so often 15-20 years older. They're so often trouble.

Also why do people think this post is made up?

EarthSight · 18/02/2021 19:53

With men*

SoulofanAggron · 18/02/2021 19:53

my mum is aware of some of the issues and has offered for me to stay. I said if it gets too uncomfortable i will, but i dont want to burden her with me and my problems. I feel like because im an adult i should stand on my own two feet

@Peanuts01 Your mum wouldn't want you to be living so unpleasantly. I'm sure she'd be glad to help.

Wanderlusto · 18/02/2021 20:08

Part of your issue though op is that you have prioritised this means needs (and even whims, sick fantasy and desires) over your own. This may be a pattern with other relationships in your life too.

Part of being an adult is knowing it's ok to ask for help and that your needs matter too.

If it was your daughter in this situation, would you want her to stay with this man another second? Of course not. You wouldnt be like 'oh but it's so inconvenient to make up a bed and put on the kettle' would you?

You're her family. Not a burden. Your safety and happiness is surely a basic need for her too.

Abusers often get us into a mindset of needing to prove we aren't weak. And make us think we need to be alone in order to do this. And that we need to tolerate shit without complaint.

It's not weak to ask for what you want. It's not weak to lean on others and its not weak to risk someone else's slight inconveniance in order to find safety, solace and security for yourself and your kids.

Remember, you are important. And your needs matter.

Wanderlusto · 18/02/2021 20:08

*this mans needs

gaijinetal · 18/02/2021 20:19

*You are being horribly sexually abused. Never have sex with him, or anyone else he wants you to have sex with ever again. Let him cheat if he wants to. Good riddance.

It sounds like he didn't want a girlfriend or longterm partner (as in someone he really cares about). Your main role is to fulfil his sexual wants. Even just a few sentences in it was awful - pressuring you to have sex only a fucking month after giving birth. His treatment of you is absolutely disgusting, abusive and uncaring. His main relationship is with his penis, not you.*

This.

I've yet to meet a man who truly cares about a woman and is ok with her having sex with another man, let alone setting it up and encouraging.

Usually it would be the last thing they wanted their partner to do, and they'd be gutted if she did.

Men like this are so sex obsessed - and view women as objects and as trading cards .. that they don't have that normal, natural desire for sexual exclusivity.

(If it were two people wanting to do it , then that's up to them - though that often descends into cheating and a general mess ... But imo most of these situations; one partner doesn't really want to, usually the woman, and is being brain washed, pressured and coerced into it).

gaijinetal · 18/02/2021 20:24

It's great that you don't have a mortgage together, and fantastic that you have a business and would be ok financially.

Just get your child maintenance off him, and leave him to his sleazy, creepy, sad little fkg life.

Dorisdaydream2 · 18/02/2021 20:29

Op this is one of the worst posts I have ever read! I am so very sorry you are going through this. He really has done a number on you, absolutely none of this is your fault. He is abusive and controlling, but he will never be able to see it. There is no talking to him, he will never see things as they are or change. Please get the support you need to leave him.