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Advice please on sex

222 replies

Peanuts01 · 18/02/2021 09:25

Hi I have just joined here. I have been with my boyfriend 10 years, we have two boys 5 and 7. When we first go together I was 19 and we had sex all the time, he did tell me that he had a high sex drive and that he liked a lot of sex. But at the start we were doing it all the time I thought it's never going to change. But it did.
So there were ups and downs in the bedroom department until our first son Was born. I had a c section and wasn't interested in sex but after about a month he put pressure on, saying everyone else does it sooner and moaning about it. Do I gave in to shut him up.
Then after our second son again he pressured me. I had given birth naturally this time and had stitches. I was constipated and really not wanting sex. But he said that everyone does it a couple of weeks after and that we should. So I gave in again. I didn't enjoy it.
He has always wanted to have a mmf threesome, something I'm not up for. And started hinting at it and also suggesting swinging. He said it would make my sex drive come back. I told him it's not for me. Eventually he joined a swinging website.to show me couples. I said to him if he wants he can talk to people but not do anything. And he wasn't aloud to show them photos of my face.
Soon he was talking to a couple and he added Kik messenger on my phone so I could talk to them. I said no I'm not taking to them. He was annoyed and said it makes it look like he is lying to them he has a partner. After I bit of arguing he let slip that he had sent photos of me, my face. I was furious. But eventually he talked his way out of that.
A year passes and he starts telling me that he loves me, but isn't in love with me. So I sit and think. I'm selfish to expect him to live the rest of his life with out trying swinging. So I told him I would maybe try. Eventually we went to a club, it was aweful I didn't do anything just went for a look. So he said we will try another and went to a different one, it's expensive to get in and I felt I had to do something so he wouldn't be annoyed so we had sex together just us. We went back a second time and I thought he is going to be expecting more this time so we met a couple. I was in now way attracted to them. We went to a room and started having sex he wanted me to let the man be inside me so I let him. But it was horrific, I was dry and uncomfortable so I said stop, apologized and went to get my clothes. Then my boyfriend looked and me and said I'm not finished so I had to lay down again and wait for him to be done.
When we left he was so happy, and expressed how much he loved me.
That was the end of any swinging for me much to his annoyance.
Now I am stuck, we hardly have sex I never feel turned on.
He keeps telling me if I don't put out he will go elsewhere. During the Christmas holidays he told me if he knew he wasn't getting any he would of stayed at work.

I feel shit, I should want sex with him but I just can't do it. I told him how I feel and he says he doesn't want split up. On valentine's Day he spent the whole day ignoring me because he hadn't had any. He mutters things under his breath at me. He is always pointing out "fit women" on TV or if we go anywhere he makes it obvious he is looking at them.
Sometimes he will do some housework and expect sex in return for it.

Currently I feel so lost. I feel bad to leave him because we have kids and he says he loves me. I don't want to hurt them. I don't know if I am just over sensitive.

Please give me advice on what I should do

OP posts:
Peanuts01 · 18/02/2021 20:36

@gaijinetal child maintenance is another problem, we were going to split up in 2019 and he wrote out a contract to say that i would not ask him for maintenence. He said he would pay for stuff for the kids like clothes etc. He has a child from a previous relationship and has always grudged paying his ex wife he even fiddled it so he payed less money

OP posts:
Wanderlusto · 18/02/2021 20:42

Pft, tell him to shove his contract.

Child maintenance means you won't have to beg him for every last penny for something you need.
Imagine having to contact him for everything. Fuck that shit.

See if you can get proof of his earnings too before you go, to show the tax ppl so that you (and his ex) can get their due in future.

Heartofgoldmumof2 · 18/02/2021 20:42

If he tries anything like that - go see a solicitor. They do 30 mins of free advice. You can out a claim into child maintenance service. Do not sign anything he gives you. But at the moment you just need to be free and safe from this absolute shit. I’m so angry for you that he has treated you in this way.

Peanuts01 · 18/02/2021 20:46

@Wanderlusto @Heartofgoldmumof2 he works full time but has a lot of outgoings. So when i leave he will be very short of money

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Solomon1212 · 18/02/2021 20:46

#peanuts01 any contract in this situation is void. You are in an abusive relationship so you can say you were under duress. X

Haffiana · 18/02/2021 20:53

Men like this are so sex obsessed - and view women as objects and as trading cards .. that they don't have that normal, natural desire for sexual exclusivity.

Trading cards - exactly. He wants to live the porn style life, to fuck other women, and OP is his stake in the game. How he 'loves' her when she complies...

OP, I really hope you will not make the mistake of thinking that now, now that you have had it verified by a forum full of normal women how utterly abusive and abnormal this all is, that you won't use it in an attempt to persuade him how bad his behaviour is.

That you won't use it to try to change him, to attempt to make him see how awful he has been or to try to make him have a divine revelation about his behaviour, and to be sorry and become a wonderful loving partner instead. So many women waste years on this - he will promise the earth, promise to change and for a whole two days he might even manage it. But this is who he is. There is no better him.

Please hold on to the fact that he has consistently shown you that he loves fucking you, and yet has no interest in who you are or in your happiness. He does not want the best for you, he doesn't care about that unless it affects him. You as a person, your wishes and your journey through life, he doesn't give a shit about.

He isn't normal. There is something dead inside him. He is toxic and rotten.

Haffiana · 18/02/2021 21:00

[quote Peanuts01]@gaijinetal child maintenance is another problem, we were going to split up in 2019 and he wrote out a contract to say that i would not ask him for maintenence. He said he would pay for stuff for the kids like clothes etc. He has a child from a previous relationship and has always grudged paying his ex wife he even fiddled it so he payed less money[/quote]
Just claim child maintenance. You will be wanting to keep interaction with him to the bare minimum, just about arrangements with the children. Don't put yourself in the position of having to ask him for money for their clothes and justifying why.

Quartz2208 · 18/02/2021 21:13

He isnt your responsibility so what if he has to many outgoings he is a grown man who can look after himself.

You need to get yourself and your boys out of there it is an unhealthy environment. Can you go to your mums and inform the agent that you want to break the tenancy and then leave him to it.

And claim CMS as well they are his responsibility.

SoulofanAggron · 18/02/2021 21:17

he wrote out a contract to say that i would not ask him for maintenence

@Peanuts01 I don't think this'd be worth the paper it's written on- CM is a legal requirement I think. As a PP said, try and get some proof of his earnings so he can't get out of it.

JanuaryJonez · 18/02/2021 21:22

I'm so glad that you're in a position to move on - there's a whole world of men out there 1000 times more decent than this awful man.

Good luck Thanks

snackmammy · 18/02/2021 21:39

Oh love, pack his bags, heck just Chuck his shit out the window the dirty vile bastard!! If he loved you he would never of put you in that situation where you felt so uncomfortable!! You deserve so much better and when you meet a loving caring man your sex drive will come back!! I'm so mad for you! Kick his arsey to the kerb!!

chocolateorangeinhaler · 18/02/2021 21:52

@EarthSight I don't think this post is made up at all. I believe every word of it. In hindsight I see my story was a classic predator singling out a prey. They are very clever. Never showing their nasty side until you are trapped and have no other option but to do as asked. But of course they love this even more because in their heads you are doing it of your own free will and they are doing nothing wrong. They are usually charming too, everyone loves them, if only people knew.

gaijinetal · 18/02/2021 22:14

[quote Peanuts01]@gaijinetal child maintenance is another problem, we were going to split up in 2019 and he wrote out a contract to say that i would not ask him for maintenence. He said he would pay for stuff for the kids like clothes etc. He has a child from a previous relationship and has always grudged paying his ex wife he even fiddled it so he payed less money[/quote]
Grin

Tell him to send the contract to the child maintenance people .. they'll be very impressed I'm sure.

He'll pay whatever they work out is due to you, taking his other child into consideration. Unless he makes himself unemployed/self employed and fiddled the books etc.

Can't think why his relationship with his first child's mother could've broken down - given his behaviour.

gaijinetal · 18/02/2021 22:17

[quote Peanuts01]**@Wanderlusto* @Heartofgoldmumof2* he works full time but has a lot of outgoings. So when i leave he will be very short of money[/quote]
How sad.

Maybe some of his swinging mates will help him out.

gaijinetal · 18/02/2021 22:21

Anyway it's not up to you to hold him up financially; while he abuses you.

gaijinetal · 18/02/2021 22:23

Still shaking my head at the contract he wrote up - I mean ... He really thinks he runs the show and you're a muppet, doesn't he.

Vallmo47 · 18/02/2021 22:25

I’m so awfully sorry for what you’ve been through. Flowers

sleepyhead1980 · 18/02/2021 22:26

This is so bad I'm praying it's a sick joke. If this is seriously true you need to run for the hills.

Magnificentmug12 · 18/02/2021 22:26

Of course you don’t want to have sex with him, what person in their right mind who knew about him would?? No one!

Leave!

sociallydistained · 18/02/2021 22:31

Hands down one of the saddest things I’ve read on OP. Please please please get away and when you do, spend some time on your self worth you deserve to be happy not abused!

MonochromeMinnie · 18/02/2021 22:34

He sounds utterly repulsive. A controlling sex pest. No wonder you don't want sex with him. He trapped you when you were a naive teenager, well you're a grown woman now and your future without him is bright Flowers

gaijinetal · 18/02/2021 22:34

I can imagine someone like that becoming pretty nasty when he no longer has you doing what he wants; I would consider that from every angle when leaving and after. Always make sure you're safe, and totally minimise opportunities for him to harass & abuse you eg mobile or email address for child visits/info exclusively, block him from main phone (or get new number). Think about opportunities for him to catch you alone and try to avoid them. Hopefully it'll only be for a while til.he moves into his next victim (though no doubt he'll cause you difficulties with cm/money ongoing if he can).

Iris27 · 18/02/2021 22:35

He doesn't like you let alone love you.

You must leave and get yourself some therapy to ensure you don't end up in another relationship like this again. You are worth so much more.

sleepyhead1980 · 18/02/2021 22:36

I am "other people" and I don't have sex very often; waited 6 months after giving birth before sex both times; do not swing or have threesomes.

Anyone else?

endofthelinefinally · 18/02/2021 22:37

You must tell your landlord you are leaving. You don't want to be chased for the rent. You need to give notice in writing. Check your contract. You should go immediately and stay with your mum until you find a new place. Just tell your dc you are going for a little holiday. Kids take things in their stride.
Your ex can't give you any sort of document to sign regarding maintenance. He is just bullying you. Don't stick around for his abuse to escalate.