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A sex one

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LivingDeadDoll · 12/02/2021 07:02

I'm in my mid 40s and have never had a good relationship.

I lost my virginity at 19 but didn't really have a lot of sex. Most of the sex I had was drunken, missionary and a bit dull. I was raped twice before 21 which really put me off sex and I became fearful of it although I didn't realise that at the time really.

I married a man who was a virgin. We married because we were best friends not because we fancied or romantically loved each other. We had sex a few times in the early days but he was very inexperienced and there was no passion. We were together for 12 long, dull, sexless years.

After him, I decided I was going to have a bit of a personal sexual revolution but it didn't really work put that way. I've probably had sex with 8 men in the last 10 years. First, was a fuck buddy and that was the first time I'd even shared a bath with someone - I was 38. After that, I met men who really only wanted to do missionary - roll on, grunt a few times, roll off. Or had ED and so preferred hand jobs or bjs.

In late 2019, I started dating a man who was very sexual. I was so unbelievably attracted to him but my past all came back to haunt me and sex was a disaster. I was hugely intimidated by his experience and I felt woefully inadequate which made me really withdrawn sexually. I realised that I'm not very good with the spontaneous aspect of sex and I need there to be a lot of communication around it - what's going to be done, how etc. I told him about my past and how there are certain positions I find really triggering. He was incredibly understanding but I think it made him a bit fearful of initiating and upsetting me and he started waiting for me to do so. This, in turn, knocked my confidence further and I felt like he had gone off me sexually so I didn't really and, 5 months ago, I ended it.

There is obviously a lot of care and affection still there. For the first few weeks after breaking up, we saw each other only as friends. As Christmas approached, we became a lot closer. No sex or even hints at it but we spent about 3 months taking it slowly and getting to know each other again without the pressure of a label or expectations. We flirted and become a lot closer emotionally. A couple of weeks ago we had sex. It was really nice but I still had anxious feelings around it. We've seen each other about 3 times since. Had sex on one other occasion but the other times not. There's no expectation of sex and he is really respectful when we do.

I suppose none of it is simple in my head. I want an exciting and interesting sex life within a loving relationship but I'm plagued with feelings of inadequacy and the knowledge that, whatever we do, he'll have memories of doing similar with other women who were younger, slimmer, more confident and better skilled than me. I don't want him to feel he's having to 'teach' me and I'd feel small and insecure and stupid if he did. Although he's nothing other than kind and caring.

I feel big and awkward having sex. I'm torn between trying to sort this out and just accepting that I'm approaching 50 in the next few years and that sex and relationships are just something I need to accept isn't going to happen for me and put it in the past.

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justilou1 · 10/03/2021 21:07

Poor bloke... I wonder what happened?!?! Pity you can’t cheer him up with protestations your undying love!

LivingDeadDoll · 11/03/2021 07:49

Looks like a cock up at their end. Nothing to do with him. Not sure if that makes it better or worse though.

I don't think it would cheer him up, tbh. I really am beginning to think all the help etc - the loft, the house move etc really was just a way of alleviating boredom for him.

Even his communications with me have become quite 'formal' over the past few days. I feel that he's pushing me away.

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justilou1 · 11/03/2021 09:38

Men do that when their confidence isn’t good. His has been undermined. Don’t let him push you away now!!! If you have to, pull out the “DD misses you” card! He’s probably depressed.

LivingDeadDoll · 11/03/2021 12:40

Yeah, that's a good point. I'd normally just leave someone alone at this stage but maybe I'll be a bit persistent...

I know he worries about being at mine when my daughter is there because he feels he's encroaching on our mother and daughter time. I have told him that the only time I see her is when he's there! She hides in her room the rest of the time 😆

Maybe I'll tell him he's coming over at the weekend - no excuses.

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justilou1 · 11/03/2021 13:18

Good plan. I think he might need a cheer up.

CraftyYankee · 11/03/2021 15:52

That sounds good. Don't let him wallow.

justilou1 · 12/03/2021 10:49

Tbh, it’s your turn to show him that you’re his team. (Plus you can jump his bones as well.)

LivingDeadDoll · 13/03/2021 15:10

Thanks for the advice.

I did invite him over this evening. He'll be round later.

I doubt I'll say anything and I haven't had chance to write the letter - been back into work properly this week and I'm shattered!

When I ended it, he asked if we could still be friends and now I think I'm just the 'placeholder' until restrictions are lifted.

I know no one here can give me answers and I know that only he can tell me how he feels.

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CraftyYankee · 13/03/2021 15:57

Look, if you ended it last time then he's probably gunshy of starting again if you don't initiate it. The fact that he asked to stay friends, and you now have some kind of a FWB going on, plus he helped you with moving and enjoys hanging out with your daughter - you really need to make the next move.

I know you have crippling self doubt, but I feel badly for this guy at this point.

LivingDeadDoll · 13/03/2021 16:46

Yeah, I know.

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CraftyYankee · 13/03/2021 17:12

Not meant to be pressure. You have to do what you're comfortable with.

justilou1 · 13/03/2021 17:21

God, you’re going to regret it if you don’t say anything

CraftyYankee · 13/03/2021 17:45

just didn't I one post above say no pressure?!?! 😅

CraftyYankee · 13/03/2021 17:47

(not that you don't have a point...)

justilou1 · 14/03/2021 00:00

I think they have had enough time to either around and are as bad as each other

CraftyYankee · 14/03/2021 13:51

How's it going OP?

LivingDeadDoll · 15/03/2021 18:12

Hi thanks for asking.

Well he came round on Saturday evening and stayed. Things were no different between us. We had a long talk on Sunday. Not about 'us' in fact we avoided any reference to 'us' at all but i realised during the conversation that I need therapy before i can realistically even consider embarking on another relationship. We hugged and kissed goodbye as usual. He was utterly lovely - as usual.

I've sorted some therapy out today - 8 weeks initially - and I'll see how i feel after that. If I'm going to do this, I need to do it properly.

Thanks for all the support StarFlowers

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CraftyYankee · 15/03/2021 19:24

Glad things were ok between you. Therapy is often a good idea. Will you tell him you're doing it? And your thoughts on moving forward? He sounds like a good'un, if you keep seeing him casually but give him hope for a future could that work for you right now?

LivingDeadDoll · 15/03/2021 20:19

Yes, I did tell him about it. We had a really long conversation about it and he was supportive and incredibly insightful.

I thought I'd probably told him enough to give him second thoughts but he still hugged and kissed me goodbye as usual. I'm still not sure of any of it but the therapy is more important at the moment.

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CraftyYankee · 15/03/2021 21:28

Sounds positive, hope it goes well for you. Come back and update at some point! 🤗

LivingDeadDoll · 16/03/2021 05:51

Thank you, I shall Flowers

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