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He won’t propose because he’s saving for a house

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Waitingfornothing · 31/01/2021 13:53

I’ve been with my DP for 3 years. We are both 34. We’ve always said, from the start, we want to get married, buy a house and have children and I’ve always stipulated I want to be married before we have children and I’m aware of how being 34 I’m running out of time.

Between us we’ve got a substantial amount saved for a deposit, this is mostly from me as I had more savings from before we were together. We are pretty much ready to buy just waiting for a house to come up that we like.

Back in July 2020 he asked me what sort of engagement rings I liked and what was my size. I sent him several links, and got my finger measured. DP is not a huge planner, so I thought that a proposal must be coming very soon. Nothing happened, we went on holiday in August and I half expected a proposal and nothing. I’d often see other rings I liked and show these to him to. He’d say “oh lovely but let’s wait til we’ve bought a house as I can save more once we’ve got that secured”. I have sent him links to more rings which are £200-300, have offered that I pay half of my ring myself, but he says no he wants to do it ‘properly’ and there he’d always feel inadequate if I paid half. I started wondering if whether he doesn’t want to get married at all, so in December I said shall we just look at booking the registry office for 2021 sometime, we actually had the website open looking at potential dates - to which he said no, he wants to propose to me properly in a romantic way and that he only asked for ring ideas last summer so he had an idea of what I liked for ‘when it was time in the future’.

I have brought this all up again today, about how I am essentially waiting for him to decide it is the ‘right time’ and how it could still take months for us to move into a house even if we made an offer today. He feels bad that I took the looking at rings last year as a sign it was happening soon, but is adamant he wants to put all of his spare cash into the house fund for now. Part of me feels this is sensible but part of me is worried he doesn’t actually want to marry me and that after we buy a house there’ll be a new item he needs to save for. He has been engaged before, I asked whether he had reservations because of this and he says absolutely not.

I’m torn between backing off and seeing what happens after we do buy a house (but I fear I’ll be in a mess if we then have to sell and break up because he still won’t seal the deal), and walking away now. I’m feeling hurt today by it all and DP has now gone out for a walk because he is upset that I feel this way Sad

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OnTheBenchOfDoom · 31/01/2021 15:19

@OneKeyAtATime

I would set a deadline for getting married and make it clear you will only buy a house if married
Absolutely this.

Your stipulation is that you will only buy a house and depart with that large deposit if you are already married. I wonder how much is yours and how much is his.

Stop letting him decide stuff. He is, in my opinion, stringing you along to get your money for the house.

He asked you about rings in July 2020, we are 6 months down the line. Do not fall for the a baby is more of a commitment than a piece of paper line. It is bullshit and you only have to read on here how many times it goes pear usually with the woman already sacrificing her career by going part time after the baby is born.

NotMyDayJob · 31/01/2021 15:21

I wasn't in a disimilar position OP, except my DP did propose and that gave him the kick up the bum to get sorted buying something (we were living with my DPs at the time to save) and we married about six months after we had moved into our first flat. Unfortunately we have gone on to have fertility problems so the children bit hasn't been so straight forward. I'm not saying that will happen to you, but this is the bit that is supposed to be easy, what if you do encounter problems further along? I'm sorry to agree with others, but if he wanted to marry you, he'd marry you

Iwonder08 · 31/01/2021 15:22

Why is he in a sole charge of making decision about getting married? Also dont buy a house until you got married assuming you still want to

Dozer · 31/01/2021 15:22

Essentially you proposed and he said no.

Don’t get mortgage debt / buy property with him pre marriage (NOT just ‘engagement’).

At 34 you don’t have further time to waste on this relationship if he won’t marry you imminently and agree a date to ttc.

Aquamarine1029 · 31/01/2021 15:22

He is stringing you along, so don't fall for it, and definitely do not buy a house with him.

NotMyDayJob · 31/01/2021 15:22

By living with DPs I mean my parents

Onthedunes · 31/01/2021 15:22

I'm sorry op

If someone truly loves you they will bite your hand off at the offer of getting married to you.

He sounds a scoundrel, wanting to use your money.

Incrediblytired · 31/01/2021 15:23

He might have some sort of plan but he’s not telling you what it is, is he?

So in his head head he wants to get the house (with your money), propose at some point, have x long engagement, get married and start trying for a baby when??? You need to ask for answers to these questions and decide if you want to be with him.

I don’t want to freak you out but I’ve seen way too many friends find out the answers to those questions in their mid 30’s and then struggle to find a partner leaving in looking unlikely they’ll have children. Don’t let that happen to you.

Incrediblytired · 31/01/2021 15:25

Plus I’m a bit worried he thinks it ok to buy a house with a significant sum of your money but doesn’t think he has to be upfront with you about marriage and babies.

Lydia777 · 31/01/2021 15:28

Don't buy a house until you are married. Not engaged. Otherwise, he might propose to keep you quiet and when you are moved in, he will say he wants to start saving for a wedding so he will put it off again. Then, you'll end up having children before being married as you will be worried you are running out of time.

So give him the ultimatum-take back the power. And if he says no, then leave.

LadyEloise · 31/01/2021 15:29

Persipan that excerpt from The Muppets Christmas Carol hit the nail on the head.
Sad

Creamcrackersandricecakes That is so sad for your sister.

BlueThistles · 31/01/2021 15:30

He's taking the PISS ... He's taking your MONEY... He's taking your biological future ....

Ditch him and take ALL your money with you 🌺

Roadtohades · 31/01/2021 15:31

Walk away now.

RantyAnty · 31/01/2021 15:32

Agree with others not to buy a house with him.

Do you live together now?

Put your wants and needs first and tell him times up and move out and start looking for your own property to buy for yourself. He obviously can't buy a property on his own so don't let him use you to get what he wants while giving you nothing.

He knew from day one you wanted marriage and children. He doesn't just get to change mid relationship and expect you to go along with it.

Method · 31/01/2021 15:32

Buy the house first, but as tenants in common with unequal shares representing the difference in deposit contributions. And tell him you want a baby next. If he is stringing you along, he will run.

Amotherlife · 31/01/2021 15:33

Totally agree with everyone else. You need the commitment to marriage first before you buy the house. Since you're putting in the lion's share of the money, you are in a strong position to call the shots. You're already engaged technically- a ring isn't some binding legality. Correct order of events is to set the date and then buy the house.

That's what DH and I did - I already had my own place and it sold a month after our marriage but new house didn't go through for another month. We planned our wedding immediately after deciding to marry, and second priority was the house.

Frauhubert · 31/01/2021 15:33

He is using a few of well known techniques from the Book of Stalling.

  1. Need to reach a milestone
  2. I want to make it a surprise
  3. I want to do it properly
  4. I am waiting for the perfect time

In reality, any average Joe can afford a £200-£300 ring that you’d shown him. He just doesn’t want to present you with it, possibly because he is not sure if he wants to marry you.
Imagine the roles were reversed, and it was him showing you a £200 ring that he was happy with. Would you keep stalling for months, keeping him in the dark, pretending there was some imaginary reason you were not doing it? I bet not.
What you are asking him for is more than reasonable. He just doesn’t want to do it.

30mph · 31/01/2021 15:33

I hope the savings you have contributed are in your name. He isn't behaving like a 'keeper' frankly. You are playing a risky game here. Protect yourself, make your own future.

TheDuchessOfBeddington · 31/01/2021 15:35

This happened to a friend of mine. Strung her along for 7 years. Then dumped her once 2 mortgage payments had been made.

It was his deposit but he needed my friends income on the mortgage to increase the amount borrowed. Ended up giving her back the £2K she had so far made in payments to fuck off.

Utter bastard.

MrsTerryPratchett · 31/01/2021 15:35

I'd be taking my more than half out of joint saving.

For insurance.

Onthedunes · 31/01/2021 15:35

Buy your own property, find another partner, have children with them and don't look back.

He is wasting your time.

SeraphinaDombegh · 31/01/2021 15:37

I agree with pretty much everyone else, OP. Alarm bells are ringing - he's stringing you along. I'm sorry. The question is, what next?

SixesAndEights · 31/01/2021 15:37

I'm with everyone else, he's stringing you along.

I wouldn't give him an ultimatum, like some have suggested, as he may end up going along with it to shut you up then you'd both feel incredibly resentful from the start. You that you had to force him, him that he was forced.

I think it's time just to quietly call it a day and move on

AlwaysCheddar · 31/01/2021 15:39

He’s really stringing you along....

Dozer · 31/01/2021 15:40

Oh god yes, if your savings are in a joint account, take them out asap!!