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He won’t propose because he’s saving for a house

303 replies

Waitingfornothing · 31/01/2021 13:53

I’ve been with my DP for 3 years. We are both 34. We’ve always said, from the start, we want to get married, buy a house and have children and I’ve always stipulated I want to be married before we have children and I’m aware of how being 34 I’m running out of time.

Between us we’ve got a substantial amount saved for a deposit, this is mostly from me as I had more savings from before we were together. We are pretty much ready to buy just waiting for a house to come up that we like.

Back in July 2020 he asked me what sort of engagement rings I liked and what was my size. I sent him several links, and got my finger measured. DP is not a huge planner, so I thought that a proposal must be coming very soon. Nothing happened, we went on holiday in August and I half expected a proposal and nothing. I’d often see other rings I liked and show these to him to. He’d say “oh lovely but let’s wait til we’ve bought a house as I can save more once we’ve got that secured”. I have sent him links to more rings which are £200-300, have offered that I pay half of my ring myself, but he says no he wants to do it ‘properly’ and there he’d always feel inadequate if I paid half. I started wondering if whether he doesn’t want to get married at all, so in December I said shall we just look at booking the registry office for 2021 sometime, we actually had the website open looking at potential dates - to which he said no, he wants to propose to me properly in a romantic way and that he only asked for ring ideas last summer so he had an idea of what I liked for ‘when it was time in the future’.

I have brought this all up again today, about how I am essentially waiting for him to decide it is the ‘right time’ and how it could still take months for us to move into a house even if we made an offer today. He feels bad that I took the looking at rings last year as a sign it was happening soon, but is adamant he wants to put all of his spare cash into the house fund for now. Part of me feels this is sensible but part of me is worried he doesn’t actually want to marry me and that after we buy a house there’ll be a new item he needs to save for. He has been engaged before, I asked whether he had reservations because of this and he says absolutely not.

I’m torn between backing off and seeing what happens after we do buy a house (but I fear I’ll be in a mess if we then have to sell and break up because he still won’t seal the deal), and walking away now. I’m feeling hurt today by it all and DP has now gone out for a walk because he is upset that I feel this way Sad

OP posts:
Beamur · 31/01/2021 14:25

I'm afraid I agree with the others. He's stalling.
Don't buy a house together.
Getting married doesn't have to cost much. Depends what you want really, the big showcase wedding will cost you thousands, but you can have a smaller affair for a few hundred quid. You don't even have to have any rings at all.
If you've already discussed getting married, then why a proposal? You should be talking dates not maybes.

LApprentiSorcier · 31/01/2021 14:25

@Gemma2019

OP isn't waiting for a proposal - she said she had the register office page open and asked if they could book a wedding date this year and he said no, he wants to propose!
And she has accepted that, and is waiting for said proposal to take place. So she's waiting for a proposal.

She needs to tell him there is no need for a proposal. She can point out that a proposal, when you have already agreed to get married, is a supremely pointless and childish piece of theatre, therefore she would rather get on and book the wedding. And if he feels there's a need for them to wear a rings, Argos do some pretty ones for under £20.

LadyEloise · 31/01/2021 14:26

"Between us we've got a substantial amount saved for a deposit, this is mostly from me......"

Oh dear.
He's got you exactly where he wants you.
You'll buy ac house with your substantial deposit and won't** be married.

I'd run a mile. He doesn't appear to love you. Sorry.

grassisjeweled · 31/01/2021 14:28

Op? This making sense?

KatyClaire · 31/01/2021 14:31

He is stringing you along, OP. People who want to get engaged just do it - they don’t prevaricate with reasons why it’s not the ‘right time’ or endless promises about the future which don’t materialise.

You’re very much young enough to find someone who wants to commit to you and get married so I would seriously consider how much more time you’re willing to spend hanging by a thread for your partner. In your shoes, I would get out well before you have the financial commitment of a house together.

Creamcrackersandricecakes · 31/01/2021 14:33

Oh OP, please be careful. A very similar scenario happened to my sister, although she was slightly older. Her DP strung her along for years with empty promises. By the time she saw the light, her chance to have children was gone. She's now 50 and childless which breaks her heart. To make matters worse, he moved on, married someone younger and has several kids. Don't let him dictate your future!!!!

Dontbeme · 31/01/2021 14:33

@willFOURbagsbeenough

I would say this guy is holding out long enough to use your money to get him a house and then once you’re financially tied to him he can string out the proposal and wedding plans for ages because you’ve already invested in the house and it will be a costly nightmare to untangle if you leave.
Sadly I agree with this, once you buy the house there will always be something that needs doing, fixing up or saved for. I was in your position OP and now at 41, no marriage and no kids, I was foolish to invest my life in this man, met at 19 and my parents died when I was primary school age so vulnerable and no real guiding hand in life. Think carefully.
AaronPurr · 31/01/2021 14:34

@Gemma2019

OP isn't waiting for a proposal - she said she had the register office page open and asked if they could book a wedding date this year and he said no, he wants to propose!
OP says this happened in December, we're almost in February. If she wasn't waiting for a proposal they could have booked the wedding last year. It's been 3 years, every month that goes by is another month he's strug her along with the promise of a romantic proposal that he has no intention of ever going through with.

It's hard to leave a relationship when you've invested so much, but better to get out now rather than add children and a house to the situation.

MixMatch · 31/01/2021 14:34

@LadyEloise

"Between us we've got a substantial amount saved for a deposit, this is mostly from me......"

Oh dear.
He's got you exactly where he wants you.
You'll buy ac house with your substantial deposit and won't** be married.

I'd run a mile. He doesn't appear to love you. Sorry.

Agree.

What he's doing the OP is actually wicked because it is not only deliberately taking away precious time she could be having with someone else who would commit to her, it could cost her her chance to have children altogether. This is life changing stuff.

It's frustrating that in 2021 some women are STILL not wise about this. So many would have lost their chance to have children and wasted years of their life because they chose to stay with someone who won't commit.

grassisjeweled · 31/01/2021 14:38

What is he actually claiming to be waiting for??!

These men! Utter scamsters.

Dump him op.

ememem84 · 31/01/2021 14:45

So once you get proposed to there will be a wait for the wedding. Then there’ll be a wait to have kids. Because they’ll always be something.

strawberriesontheNeva · 31/01/2021 14:48

I would pull of of the relationship and save your money for buying a house in the future with a different partner. It's sad that he seems to be stringing you along op.

Persipan · 31/01/2021 14:49

Honestly OP, I read your post and started singing this in my head...

cooldarkroom · 31/01/2021 14:56

Tell him you are not jointly buying a house without being married first.

BibbityBobbety · 31/01/2021 14:57

Since you're contributing a bulk of a deposit, you do get a say in whether you want to put it towards buying a house with someone you're not even engaged to! What exactly is he compromising here, nothing. Please don't buy a house with this man till you're married, it's an absolute nightmare otherwise in case you split to get your money back and sell etc. Have you checked what rights you'll have if you buy then split, before marriage? Can you guarantee your share of the deposit/equity will be returned?

Don't be naive OP when it comes to money. If he won't marry you now, he won't suddenly get the urge a year later. The proposal is supposed to be about you right, so what the hell is the point of him making a fuss over it when you'd prefer to just get married.

Clymene · 31/01/2021 15:04

Yep agree with everyone else - he's future faking you. Get out now, do not waste any more of your time on this weasel.

And do not fall for the sink costs fallacy either - that how women end up spending their fertile years with a bloke who promptly leaves them at 39 and gets married and has kids within 18 months.

You have your deposit, put it down on a flat and move out.

StephenBelafonte · 31/01/2021 15:09

At 34 and with most of the money to put into a house deposit i'd settle for nothing less than marriage before moving in.

He's a cheeky bastard.

Start having a look around to see what you could afford on our own.

Sittingonabench · 31/01/2021 15:10

I am a pretty traditional person but practicalities are important. In your position I wouldn’t be entering into a house purchase (a significant long term financial and emotional commitment) with him until I was certain of his commitment to the relationship. If I were you I would buy a £200 engagement ring and propose to him. A proposal is a commitment to get married and while romance and the traditional 3 month wage bill is nice, it’s outdated and what really matters is that you intend to share your future together. If he says no because he wants to propose explain that relationships take compromise and he can’t always have it his way. You tried to do it his way but it is now affecting your relationship and security. You need to implement boundaries and making you miserable should be one of them. I did similar with my other half and said if he wanted to propose he had until feb 29th (leap year) otherwise he’d missed the boat and I’d be doing it.

LifeExperience · 31/01/2021 15:10

He doesn't really want to marry you. If he did, you'd be married by now.

ResignYourself · 31/01/2021 15:11

Just say you don’t want to buy a house with someone you’re not married to. Your feelings are valid.

Fwiw, my DH wouldn’t propose til he was on the property ladder but he didn’t need my financial input to do it. He proposed about three weeks after we moved in together. He felt he needed his ducks in a row before he would be a good prospect as a husband (mad) - so he secured a job having been self employed, and bought his house and then did it. He wanted to offer security. If I had really pushed it, and said he was making me unhappy he would have just got married though in a registry office.

OneKeyAtATime · 31/01/2021 15:11

I would set a deadline for getting married and make it clear you will only buy a house if married

Woodlandbelle · 31/01/2021 15:15

I would walk away. I have been there (sort of).
I didnt live with dh until I got married. No way would I buy this infamous house with him. Can you go somewhere to have a think about things. He is being very unfair

LolaSmiles · 31/01/2021 15:15

It sounds like he is full of excuses and is likely to be the sort of guy who gets the house with you, then has excuses about marriage, relies on you wanting children badly enough to compromise on marriage and then once you've got children he concludes he has everything he wants and hasn't had to make the legal commitment.

He is robbing you of time that you could be finding someone who loves you and has the same life dreams.

PandaVie · 31/01/2021 15:17

Sounds like he wants your money to help secure a house he wouldn't otherwise be able to afford, and is using a "proposal" as a carrot to sweeten you to part with your money

^this

I think OP’s not been back to thread though.

I hope she takes her share of the money. Which is the bigger share. And buys her own place instead of waiting for this man who could be being very manipulative.

Loopylobes · 31/01/2021 15:18

We’ve always said, from the start, we want to get married, buy a house and have children

A proposal would be meaningless as you are already engaged to be married.

He is using a meaningless future proposal to postpone committing to a date for the wedding.

He doesn't want to marry you.

You are spot on to not want children before you are married to him as he is clearly not willing to make a commitment to you.

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