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Can someone just hold my hand? Just for a bit

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MoreLegsThanMe · 11/01/2021 01:58

My husband of 36 years has left. I don’t know how to get through tonight. Can someone just hold my hand, please?

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Pantsomime · 24/01/2021 16:44

OP Kings Of Leon “Sex On Fire” on loop in my head now Grin

lowbudgetnigella · 25/01/2021 09:02

Just seen your message about the letter and laughed. Good for you. It shows a shift in thinking too, he can bugger off and stew in his own mess. Why on earth should you enable him.
Cleaning all very good and at least it is active but I agree you need to try something new for you. Maybe crafty if you like that, or baking bread?
I am at home and when kids are home schooling and husband working from home I only feel I can do "jobs" not a jigsaw or reading or things I may do on a weekend but you can rip up any of those "rules" you can do what you want.
I would say whether you file for divorce or not, you do need a formal financial agreement in place. Maybe throw yourself into that, into listing all asserts etc?

MoreLegsThanMe · 25/01/2021 09:06

Sorry I didn’t come back yesterday - I will properly tonight.

Just not so good right now,

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Onthedunes · 25/01/2021 09:16

No need to apologise op.

Remember you don't have to report back here if you don't want to , we won't be offended.
We shall just wait and be here to support you until you're ready to post again

Flowers Take care
MoreLegsThanMe · 25/01/2021 12:06

It was two weeks yesterday and stupidly I thought I might feel a little better...

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billybagpuss · 25/01/2021 12:24

I think while we’re in lockdown it’s going to take you a while to get past the Sunday blues as every Sunday is an anniversary for you. Once we can get out and about again you’ll have other things to think about. Your posts have been getting better though so still onwards and upwards 💐

FranktheRabbit · 25/01/2021 14:03

Don't want to hijack your thread, I am further on in separation but keep being drip fed info. So 1 step forward, 2 steps back. In a nutshell, hubby of 20+ yrs walked out 5 mnths ago, unhappy, never discussed on any occasion and behaviour before he went was beyond normal. I was supportive of him needing space and time to think as he "didnt know what he wanted", I genuinely had no idea what was going on, mid life crisis or depression... never in a million years expected to be told there was someone else. I encouraged him to seek counselling, medication etc due to depression. He spent Xmas and NY with me and our 2 teenagers. Told me at NY he had no plans to return, has since admitted to meeting OW recently and that he has been in contact with her for over a year so EA for considerable time. Kids and I have gone through and continue to feel a huge range emotions. Mostly anger and disappointment at him. Have taken as many steps as I can to protect future for kids and myself but feel held back by lockdown.
I just wanted to let you know, sadly, you are not alone but life does get easier. Like you I am trying to keep busy when I feel like life isn't worth living and if it wasn't for 2 amazing teens I don’t know where I would be. As time goes on I am realising he isn't worth the heartbreak he caused and it will be him that suffers long term when relationship with kids disintegrates due to all the lies he has told. His behaviour has been nothing less than downright cruel and I no longer recognise him as the man I married and loved.
Reach out to ppl either on here or in RL and please please be kind to yourself. You are not the one at fault here. Life will get better with time and I have every faith you will get through this. Stay strong 💪

1WayOrAnother2 · 25/01/2021 14:22

Well done on burning the letter. Symbolic!

Forget her/him and his new NHS 'mechanical sex toy'. No doubt she'll find a better one before long (perhaps one with longer-life batteries :)) - even if it works.

He is a cliche OP - you only have to look around a short time to see what the chances are that he has found 'love' and happiness. Happy lives are not based on the pain and suffering of others.

There is another cliche/truth to consider. Look around at the 'left and bereft' women out there and notice that they tend to fare better than the leavers they thought they would miss. This truth is easy to miss.

You have only had 2 weeks to process this. It is a bit more of a change than a housemove - so give it time.

I agree with posters above. Look forwards at what you can do. Allow yourself to imagine a much better life. (One that doesn't require help from the NHS for intimate action perhaps.)

Grieve now but be ready to get up and go again. Don't look back then- it turns you into a pillar of salt - something full of bitterness and nothing else.

You are going to get over this.

You are going to find a better life without this false man.

You will be your own creation.

Thebeginningoftheend · 25/01/2021 15:21

OP I have been following your thread and I'm sorry this has happened to you. This time last year I was where you are after a similar length of marriage. The circumstances were different but the trauma wasn't. I know that feeling of willing your way through the day, the sleepless nights and the deep deep concern for the children even though they were also grown up. I found Mumsnet a few months down the line, I'm glad you found it sooner. I haven't read all the replies and this may have already been suggested but please, in those hours when you are feeling desperate please look up Chumplady and also the Script on this site. This link helped me a lot:

www.chumplady.com/2012/06/untangling-the-skein-of-fuckupedness/

I spent many weeks and months trying to work out what was going on in his head. It took me a while to accept that it was wasted time.I'd be lying if I said I don't still do it but I try as much as possible not to.I will never work out why he did it, I guess he did it because he wanted to. I will never understand how he could risk the relationship with his kids to do what he did. I tried to protect the kids but it was impossible, I learnt quickly that it was as important for them to talk about it as it was for me. I guarantee you that they are worrying about you as much as you are them. My kids have helped me through and me them. Their relationship with their dad was how you describe your children's is at the minute. A year later very small steps have been taken but things will never be the same for all of them and I hate him for that most.

I am a year down the line and can promise you things do improve but I know you won't believe that now because I didn't this time last year. At two weeks in I was still in shock. You are grieving for the man you thought he was and who you want him to be, he is not that man. You are grieving for the future you thought you had with him, you need to work through that and it takes time, I'm not sure I'm there yet but I am closer. Your legal background will help but that knowledge makes this process no less traumatic. Keep coming here, I was lucky to have great support from a group here and I doubt I would have survived if it had not been for it. You are stronger than you think, you have made it through the first 2 weeks and that is an achievement. Get over to Chumplady and read read read until you find your strength to face what is ahead. And absolutely brilliant that you destroyed the letter, that shows that you have what it takes to get through this!!

MoreLegsThanMe · 25/01/2021 21:12

Thank you all so much.

Today has been another hard day. I think a lot has been to do with mulling over the thought that I’m alone now, that’s it. Obviously I have DDs3 and 4 and DS but I mean there won’t be another man. There won’t be any of those special moments. And it’s really hard to feel that way. And scary.

There was no contact from him again today. I despair at his lack of interest in his own children. I imagine once her four start worming their way back into the flat they’ll then be more or less his step DC won’t they. Her DC he said he couldn’t bear because of the drama.

DD4 and DS are doing so so well. DD3 applied for another job today. I sense she’s a bit down at the moment. There are so few jobs and so many applicants. Even though she’s applying worldwide. And there’s lockdown to contend with too. She’s probably bored to tears.

I just wish this all had never happened.

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WouldBeGood · 25/01/2021 22:03

Being in a relationship isn’t everything, but I felt just like you. Went on tinder to cheer myself up (after being encouraged to by a friend) and met DP really quickly. It was a bit of much needed fun chatting to people too!

I still wish mine hadn’t happened, at least mit in the way it did, but in all honesty I’m much happier now.

wifterwafter · 25/01/2021 22:04

Please don't write yourself off. You sound like a lovely woman and age is no barrier. The reality is that you can't imagine life without him as you thought he was your forever. You'll look back in time and once you've started to come to terms with his horrific behaviour you'll start asking yourself why wouldn't someone want to be in your company.

You don't feel strong now but it will come, you've got this girl and there's a whole load of strangers supporting you and willing you through the next day. There is light at the end of the tunnel.

wifterwafter · 25/01/2021 22:06

@Thebeginningoftheend puts it perfectlyStarThanksThanksThanks

Icanflyhigh · 25/01/2021 22:20

Age is no barrier at all, so don't write yourself off.
My exH left me with 3DC under 10 and I was convinced that was me done, even though I was only 35. Fast forward 6 years and I should have remarried last year, except covid happened, so we're doing it this year instead. There are good men out there and I found one who accepted me and my 3DC as a complete package - never been in doubt in nearly 5 years and he is truly wonderful. I had so many days like you where I thought it would never get better, but it did and I can honestly say now I am happier than I've ever been, and so are DCs - there's no arguments, no silent treatment, just lots of laughs and consistency.
You will get there, I promise you will x

MoreLegsThanMe · 25/01/2021 22:46

I can’t see an end to it really I can’t.

He’s all cosied up with her and no responsibilities and I’m here with 5 DC. Oh I know they don’t need me as in babies/toddlers/younger DC would but I still feel a sense of responsibility for the older ones’ well-being and of course DD4 and DS do still need me to be fed and clothed etc too.

The selfishness of this man is astounding. Yet he thinks he’s a good father

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Inks42 · 25/01/2021 22:53

I only saw this thread today and have read all your messages. I don't normally post, but I wanted to tell you I'm another stranger, who with all the PPs here are thinking about you.

Believe me when I say your messages do show an improvement week on week even if you don't see it.

You are grieving what you've lost, which is perfectly natural. Any grieving process has bad days and not quite so bad days.

You will never get back what you had, or thought you had, but you will move on to something else. Because life always moves forwards, never back. We can't change what's happened, what's been said or done, but we can change how we think about it.
You can challenge the thoughts that keep popping back into your head; the things you remember. Acknowledge that they happened and think if you can think about it in a different way.

For example, when you remember how he spoke about her children, a more helpful thought is that they're his problem now.
When you ask yourself how he could treat your children like this, a more helpful thought is that you might never find out, but your children are lucky you would never do that.
When you think you don't know what is left of your life, a more helpful thought is that you may not know now, but you will be able to fill it with things you want to do and there is every chance you might meet someone else in the future.

Have you thought about counselling? You may be grieving too much to consider it right now, but if you have to wait for the NHS it might be good to get that referral as soon as you can.

Grieving takes up so much mind space, but think about what things do you like doing. What did you use to do and enjoy before you had children? What are you good at? If crafts are not your thing, what is?
Finding something you like doing for yourself, not just chores, might help.

I heard in a webinar that doodling is meditative, as while drawing something you think only about where your pen is going next.

I'm sure many hobbies are the same. I can completely loose many hours when I'm sewing. It doesn't have to be a full on hobby, just something you like and that you can do in the evenings when your mind is likely to wander. And if it doesn't stop you thinking, add binge watching something at the same time.

As PPs have said before, preparing your next steps, looking at finances etc. Is also a good way to keep occupied.

It's about reclaiming your life.

I know you're not thinking about these things right now, and rightly so, but you will get there at some point.

I know that you don't want to burden your children by talking to them about this, but if you did you might find that it might be what you all need. They're grieving what they've lost too.

FlowersBrewBiscuit
We're here if you need to vent.

Inks42 · 25/01/2021 23:06

@MoreLegsThanMe

I can’t see an end to it really I can’t.

He’s all cosied up with her and no responsibilities and I’m here with 5 DC. Oh I know they don’t need me as in babies/toddlers/younger DC would but I still feel a sense of responsibility for the older ones’ well-being and of course DD4 and DS do still need me to be fed and clothed etc too.

The selfishness of this man is astounding. Yet he thinks he’s a good father

A more helpful way of thinking might be: He thinks he has no responsibilities right now, but in reality he will likely need to pay his living in his new flat and pay you maintenance. He will likely need to work longer before he can retire. His fantasy will not last long, it only took 6 month to drive him out of it last time, and this time he will not have a family to go back to. His choice for a short jolly now will give him a long time of problems. Your future looks so much brighter than his.
ItGetsBetter · 25/01/2021 23:53

Morghana?

dublingirl66 · 25/01/2021 23:59

He doesn't have a clue

Imagine stuck with a wanker like that for the rest of your days

Bullet has been dodged

Please stay strong
You have got this 👍🏻👏👏👏

Moviestar · 26/01/2021 13:16

Dear OP. I feel desperately sorry for you , your husband has behaved appallingly. I just wanted to see you a big hug and some support.
You are a lovely person who has behaved with dignity and grace and put her children first.Eventually you will feel better and move on,
and can hold your head up high.
Your husband , once he gets dumped which he will, will not be able to look himself in the mirror and will be on his own and full of regret .
He has wasted the love and the life he was given.
You have years ahead of you ,and will not always feel like this.
Stay strong and look after your own interests and your children.

In the meantime I laughed so hard when I read you burnt his letter.
Good for you and I hope you laugh too everytime you think of it
The barefaced cheek of him expecting you to let him know when it came!!

Onthedunes · 26/01/2021 14:19

Hi op, hope you're ok today.

Thinking of you.

Flowers
cantkeepgoing · 26/01/2021 19:49

Op you are going to get through this. We are all here for YOU. You're never a burden. Even if you feel like you can't breathe and your hearts literally being chopped into pieces always know that you can come on here , no judgement.
I promise you that this feeling will change as will the hellish nights . You've totally got this as you're only dealt what you can deal with x
Keep posting if it helps anytime xx little steps......we are all rooting for you

Adifferentstory2 · 26/01/2021 20:31

You have acted with such dignity. This will be a painful time, immensely painful at times, but it is the beginning of a new (hopefully, better) chapter in your life. You’re not old, you have lots of things to come and your lovely children and grandchildren to support. It feels like a living nightmare but keep your dignity, write a plan (step by step of what you need to do - money, solicitor etc etc) and work through it slowly. Keep contact with him to essentials only. The kids will make their own minds up. What a stupid fool, some men are such dicks.
I have been there and survived. It is brutal, utterly heartbreaking and shattering. But, honestly, he will reap what he has sown - you don’t need to dish anything out to either of them, the universe will sort it. Your power is the ability to chose your reaction to this - you’re doing that with dignity. I promise you things will feel better one day soon x

MoreLegsThanMe · 26/01/2021 20:58

Thank you.

I don’t feel dignified, brave, or anything. I just daren’t look forward it’s just too frightening.

I still hope daily that he will contact the DC but he doesn’t.

All you lovely lovely women sharing your stories and remembering your own pain. You are the dignified and brave ones.

I’m so scared that I’m just too old now to get over this trauma (that’s probably not the right word but it’s how it feels to me). I feel like who I was doesn’t exist any more.

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WouldBeGood · 26/01/2021 21:31

Let me assure you,@MoreLegsThanMe, you’re a lot more dignified than I was 😂

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