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I think there’s another phone

367 replies

Dissillusioned · 08/01/2021 09:56

I may be paranoid but a couple of things lately have me thinking dp may have a secret phone.
I’ve looked but can’t find one, so I could be totally wrong but my gut is telling me to keep looking.
What I’m asking is, those that have found a secret phone, where was it hidden? I’m hoping there’s places I haven’t thought to look. I’m also hoping I’m wrong and just paranoid as I do have form for overthinking things, but I’m watching dp like a hawk right now.

OP posts:
Heyahun · 09/01/2021 20:37

Yeah tbh if you feel like this it’s irrelevant if there’s another phone or not! You obviously don’t trust him

lonelySam · 09/01/2021 20:49

You don't need to have two phones. Lots of devices have a dual sim option, then you have the apps which you can hide or make look like a different app, you have hidden folders on Apple etc. You have apps where you don't have to give a phone number to message, you have apps where you must give a phone number to message etc. etc.

Casade · 09/01/2021 20:55

I was thinking porn too or smoking/ vaping? Could be another phone too

Loushome · 09/01/2021 22:05

@2021hastobebetter

I hope you’re ok now xxx

Hawkins001 · 10/01/2021 00:35

He could be an civil service agent ?

wowfudge · 10/01/2021 15:44

@Hawkins001

He could be an civil service agent ?
What working for DWP or the Cabinet Office?
abcyz · 10/01/2021 15:44

Were any of the pieces of paper disturbed this morning @OP?

heatered · 10/01/2021 16:18

He could have several accounts with Facebook/WhatsApp etc much easier to manage than another phone. Have you managed to look at his actual phone?

Sorry you are going through this x

Dissillusioned · 10/01/2021 16:49

Nothing disturbed this morning, but I think he may know I’m suspicious because of what I said at glasses incident. So could be laying off it?
However, there is a small new development which may or may not be relevant.
Around 9 months ago his phone developed an issue where it wouldn’t connect with WiFi/Bluetooth etc. It apparently was an antenna chip or something. Anyway, he asked me to order him a new phone, which I did, and he wanted same as his current phone. He then ended up getting the old one repaired and said he’d kept it as a spare. No issues here, except I did wonder why bother getting it repaired.
I thought he’d put the old one In The box that the new one came in. It sat in this box for a few weeks on the table and then got put away. Today I found the box and there’s no phone in it. I could be wrong though, and he could’ve put it in it’s original box of course, as they were basically identical (iPhone).
I’ve looked for the old box and can’t find it but we did put some old stuff in loft recently so it could be there.
Tomorrow I’m going in the loft as I’ve found some things I need to store. He’s working so won’t worry what I’m doing. But I’m going to look for that bloody phone. If I don’t find it I think there’s my answer. No way he would’ve given it away or got rid without telling me.
Also it’s identical to his personal phone he uses all the time, so there’s a chance he’s been on it right in front of me, if I am actually right.
I’ve today made a tiny mark in his normal phone. So when he’s on it, I’ll know if it is in fact an identical twin or his normal one.
I’m going crazy aren’t I?
But I keep returning to the image of him walking with something small and black in his hand following the detour to the toilet in the middle of the night and his weird behaviour the other night.

OP posts:
Dissillusioned · 10/01/2021 16:53

@heatered I have full access to his normal phone. My finger print is on it, he is happy for me to look at it whenever, often he hands it to me to check stuff.
When he detoured to the loo, his phone was in bedroom charging.

I also noticed today he has an iPhone charger plugged in near his desk in office. He charges his iPhone every night in the bedroom and I’ve never seen him charge it during the day. Could just be he plugged it in just in case. Or could be he has another iPhone to charge every now and then.
It’s really not looking good is it?

OP posts:
AmywithanL · 10/01/2021 17:07

Of course you have full access to his phone. He has a second one for his ‘other’ business Hmm

2020wish · 10/01/2021 17:13

If u don’t find that phone or see him using it while pretending it’s his actual phone. Maybe query where the other phone is (lie about a family member) and say that have sent their phone away to be repaired and u offered to lend them the spare iPhone until their phone is fixed

Arnoldthecat · 10/01/2021 17:17

Have you logged into your broadband router as administrator to see if you can spot any extra devices connected to the wifi?

LadyFlumpalot · 10/01/2021 17:27

If they are both iPhones and one is his old phone then chances are he won't have bothered to disable his Apple ID on the old phone. Next time you are legitimately using his phone, log onto his find my iPhone and see what devices are registered.

I say this as I still have an old iPhone kicking around that I haven't gotten round to selling yet and even though it hasn't been powered up in months it still shows on my devices on find my iPhone. It also shows my MAC and my watch as they are both registered to my Apple ID.

LadyFlumpalot · 10/01/2021 17:29

And if it does show one too many phones on the devices list then simply click on the u known device and ask it to play a sound. It will play a sound even if it is on silent.

Sexnotgender · 10/01/2021 19:04

I have an iPhone charger under my desk and charge my phone by the bed every night. I don’t have a second phone I just have an extra charger in case I need it.

InFiveMins · 10/01/2021 19:07

I think you need to trust your instinct OP - something is telling you that something isn't right.

He will get more and more relaxed about the phone and where he leaves it because he will think he's getting away with it.

angel0071987 · 10/01/2021 19:11

How do you accidently mark an iPhone such that the user isn't aware but you can see from a distance it's marked?!

Why don't you buy him a distinctive case instead and then he'll have to either buy a duplicate case or be noticed

Standrewsschool · 10/01/2021 19:37

Is the second iPhone charger new?

Why don’t you move the office one or use it to charge your phone and see what he says?

Gncq · 10/01/2021 19:40

Chances are he doesn't use the phantom phone in front of OP, but it is extremely convenient for someone to have an identical second phone just in case someone were to come across it.

Catty1720 · 10/01/2021 19:40

Has he moved charger because he’s WFH?? It sounds like you want to catch him out to me. If this was the other way round people would be calling it abuse!!

Lsquiggles · 10/01/2021 20:01

The identical phone being missing is suspicious..

PaigeMatthews · 10/01/2021 20:05

@Catty1720

Has he moved charger because he’s WFH?? It sounds like you want to catch him out to me. If this was the other way round people would be calling it abuse!!
Really? That’s your take home from this thread? Hmm
Catty1720 · 10/01/2021 20:08

@PaigeMatthews am I missing something it just seems op is really searching for a phone it could be there isn’t oneHmm

CoffeeBeansGalore · 10/01/2021 20:19

Hi Op
Just skimmed through so this may have been suggested, but -
Does he have a laptop bag with a sleeve in the office? A slim iPhone could be slipped down the side/underneath the removable sleeve within the bag.

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