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NEED SOME RAPID ADVICE NOW domestic abuse situation

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milkmonster · 24/10/2007 11:50

Im spinning this off quick as he's in the shed for half an hour scuse spelling etc. Together 5 years have 6month old baby has been pysical emotional and mental abuse for last 4 years has got worse since baby though he not violent physically anymre since she born. today feels like last straw for me trip to see my family planned, its my birthday today, my sister has taken time off work specially to see, it s half term so babys cousins can visit her, family lives 300 miles away, my boyfriend has pulled out of the trip he does this many many times in the past uses it to blackmail me into being 'good'i know this all sounds cliched but its real, i rent this house, he is not on the tenacny, he is not supposed o be living here due to tenancy conditions, because of whats happened today i feel like calling the landlady round and asking her to have him move out, but he says hell start smashing the house up cos im the tenant ill be responsible for the damage he says, he will do it, he has alrady damamged the house and contents previously.

he does have places to go, hoe owns his own house though hecant live in it hes a hoarder, but he has freinds to go to.

is there any wya i can avoid him smashing the house, nce the landlady leaves after telling him to go hell just come back half hour later, i really want to avoid involving police as it will make it worse for me, he has even said before he';d kidnap the baby if id did naything like this.

what does anyone think?

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Hassled · 24/10/2007 11:55

Get family/friends/as many people as you can over NOW, and once you have physical support, call both the landlady and the police. The landlady could arrange getting the locks changed. Good on you for having the guts to want to get this sorted. If there are witnesses to him smashing the place up then he could be done for criminal damage and no one will see you as responsible. The landlady will have some sort of insurance anyway. Good luck.

sprogger · 24/10/2007 12:01

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GTE · 24/10/2007 12:03

no advice I agree with Hassled and just want to say don't give up on this, for you and for your baby. You need him out of your life and there are people to support you. Have you talked to Refuge or your GP?

Good luck you and your baby are worth more than this

Gx

TimeForMe · 24/10/2007 12:22

Personally I would call the police and ask them to ask him to leave. They will stay with you until he has packed his things and gone. They will also speak to him and warn him of the reprocussions of any actions he may be intending to take, whether that be aimed at you or the house and it's contents.

The police will also help you with the landlord.

Don't be afraid of calling them, they are wonderful with things like this and you will be amazed at how safe you will feel having involved them.

Start as you mean to go on, take control of this now and stop this bully in his tracks!! You can do it!!

Happy birthday by the way

Baffy · 24/10/2007 12:30

Totally agree with hassled

FuzzyFeeling · 24/10/2007 12:50

Yes agree with hassled, get in friends and family and DON'T be afraid of involving the police, this won't make it harder for you.

bubblesbabe · 24/10/2007 13:03

Happy birthday to you xxx
I agree with the others - get some help fast - no one can control your life like this - it's outrageous.
Rally all the support you can and get him out.
Good luck xx

mosschops30 · 24/10/2007 13:10

Oh please get him out, Ive been where you are. The police came and supervised the 'moving out' of my ex and they were superb no complaints, they waited until he had moved everything of his and he had left. They also provided me with an emergency contact number to use incase he came back.

Get your family to support you (do they even know, I know mine didnt, you become good at hiding stuff), and go for it. I am a different person today to who I was back then, you will become you again

Mung · 24/10/2007 13:20

I agree with the advice from the others...
Happy Birthday. Let us know that you and baby are OK

Anonymama · 24/10/2007 13:30

Happy Birthday to you! Don't waste anymore of your life with this person. No-one should live in fear, and your child deserves better than to grow up seeing mummy treated like this.

Ring your family. Tell them what is going on - even if you have been playing "happy families" for 4+ years. Don't worry about losing face, or people saying "I told you so", or whatever. Hopefully you are lucky enough to have a family who love you - and they will love you regardless of what is going on. (Often abusive partners have worked hard to separate their victims from support networks like friends and family - by moving them away, by being rude to them, etc. If this is your case, don't think for one moment that your family don't care for you).

If you could get your family to help out financially and logistically, could you/would you move back into their area?

Also, call the police. If you want the violence to end - your relationship will also have to end - but even if you still feel something for this man, do you want to look back in 10,15,20 years, and still be cowering in fear of his violence? You can make a fresh start if you decide it is what you want.

The police & women's aid will be able to help you. Please take care. Perhaps next year you will be celebrating your birthday with a happier heart.

pigletmaker · 24/10/2007 13:35

I don't think you should ever have had a baby with a man who was violent towards you before hand. Its a risk to the child and a terrible environment to bring a baby into.

The move to action should be motivated by that, not by your missing a birthday treat.

Sorry to sound judgemental, I dont' mean to - I'm just a bit shocked.

As others have suggested - call for help now and get him out. Get a restraining order.

I really hope things work out for you, safely.

doggiesayswoof · 24/10/2007 13:40

Listen to mosschops and Hassled. Get support, call the police and get him out. And stay strong.

He must be back from the shed now - come back if you get a chance and tell us how you are getting on. Keep posting.

katz · 24/10/2007 13:42

pigletmaker your post is bang out of order, the orginal poster is asking for constructive advice on how to leave her absusive partner, telling her that she shouldn't have a child with him is not helpful and is my opinion is down right rude, she need help and support to get away from this situation not someone else abusing her.

pigletmaker · 24/10/2007 13:45

I did apologise for sounding judgemental.

katz · 24/10/2007 13:46

that makes it ok then? like i said the poster need constructive help not more abuse.

Bessie123 · 24/10/2007 13:47

I think what pigletmaker is saying is that now the OP has a baby, her priority should be getting the child away from an abusive situation.

pigletmaker · 24/10/2007 13:48

Katz, then you clearly didn't read everything I wrote...

but I am genuinely shocked. And I remain so. And I'm not interested in defending that to you Katz, sorry...

I hope Milkmonster that you get out of this situation for good, I really do. Please let us all know how things get on.

pigletmaker · 24/10/2007 13:49

yes bessie. thanks. thats exactly it.

mamazon · 24/10/2007 13:53

call teh police and the ywill remove him. they will tell him he is not to return within 24 hours.
if he does you can call them again and he will be locked up for 24 hours instead.

when he is removed go to your local county court, ask for the forms to get a "non molestation and residency order"
this is a form that will be read in front of a judge. the judge can then decide that he is not to return to your house without your express invitation and that if he does he can be arrsetd ( if he agress to attach a power of arrest)

it means that he cannot come near you at your home.

if you do not feel you can do it alone please contact either WOMENS AID or your local community safety team. the police will have their number.
even teh CAB can help with completing these forms if you need them to.

Anonymama · 24/10/2007 14:08

Pigletmaker - you have clearly never been in a similar situation, lucky for you.

I think it is pretty normal for women in abusive relationship to have children with their abuser, even when the abuse pre-dates conception. If someone had belittled you, harangued you, or made you lose your confidence over a number of years, it would not be difficult for them, or even you yourself, to convince you that a baby might solve the problem, heal the rift etc. And from the point of view of the abuser, it gives them another hold over the woman.

Don't worry about what other people think milkmonster - do what is right for you and your baby. And good luck to you. Let us know how you get on.

madamez · 24/10/2007 14:11

Good luck, girl. The law and everyone else are on your side no matter what crap he's been spouting. He has no right to be in your home or your life if you don't want him there, and the police and everyone are ready and willing to help you get rid of him.

GColdtimer · 24/10/2007 14:19

No advice but just wanted to say good luck. You owe it to yourself and your baby to get out of this situation now - the longer you leave it the harder it will get.

There are loads of people on here who have been through similar things and I am sure you will get loads of support.

milkmonster · 24/10/2007 18:10

boyfriend has gone out now for few hours so will update, if it looks like thinigs arent serious because i have time to go online, that isnt the case,the pc is just always on and my family/friends are biased towards me re this situation so i do really appreciate different views of support of this forum. i suppose this is kind of like a 'live'event.

thankyou all for your advice, i didnt realise the police can actually remove someone from your home unless they have committed some kind of crime first, whereas im not convinced that just telling the police my boyfriend intends to damage the house if i ask him to leave will help, as my byfriend will just tell them im lying, he is exceptionally clever EQ and IQ wise top brain at school etc etc i am very very scared of what he is capable of, he has even mentioned kidnapping the baby when he has access rights to her if it comes to that.

i am too nervous to have a 'scene', i was going to do it, but i feel perhaps i do need some support with me to spur me on.

what holds me back is starting the ball rolling, i know for instance if i phone womens aid or the police it makes the inevtiable more 'real' for me, whereas i could just switch off the pc, make a cup of tea, enjoy a few hours of peace whilst he's out this evening and pretened nothings happened again.

i hate what is going to happen to him, i dont hate him and he's already very depressed due to recent events in his life, i wonder if this will be something to make him 'wake up'as he is head stuck in sand over the recent events too as well as the seriousness of this, perhaps in a horrible way it might make things better for him too in the long run, as he must hate himself too for doing this to me, this is what Im keeping in mind anyway, as you know im goijng to have to plan things 'covertly' for instance arrange removals to have his stuff moved out and put into storage, have the locks changed when he's not here etc he is going to go NUTS believe me.

i will keep this post updated where i can, but the pc has been replaced so many times its very likely he will break it again which will be the only reason i dont reply.

i am going to write to the landlady first i think and ask her what she thinks about my asking the police to remove him and having locks changed. i dont feel brave enough to speak to her yet, in case she thnks im a problem tenant (i have only been here 2 months), by the way my last rented house, he caused so many complaints to the point where one more would have evicted me, due to his hoarding scrap and junk on the premises and all sorts...

i would especially be interested to hear from anyone who has gone through this, having their partner removed from their home or if anyone can tell me if it's correct that custody is always given to the mother initially until proved otherwise, I am actually breastfeeding at the moment so surely they couldnt take her away from me during this (he has said he will lie to the social services and tell them im mentally unstable in order to have the baby put into care).

i will bne so glad when this is over. i am feeling closer to it all happening, its been going on for nearly 5 years now, im not just spouting off here for the sake of it, things feel different.

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FlightAttendant · 24/10/2007 18:27

Milkmonster, you need to get angry and you need a lot of support around you in order to let that happen safely. As you say he will go nuts, you are not safe, and reading about your situation makes me feel extremely frustrated that you haven't already kicked the b*stard out.
It's YOUR HOME for Christ's sake, you need to get on the phone to the local refuge who will take a note of everything you have said, all his threats, which will all cont against him if it comes to access later etc. you have to start fighting and write down EVERYTHING he says and does, like a diary. Also phone the police - not 999 but the local number, ask to speak to the domestic abuse people there, they are FANTASTIC and will take you 100% seriously.
He will NOT get custody, plenty of nasty men say this to make you too afraid to leave. It's bull.
Please ring the refuge now. You don't need to go and live there, they will help anyone in your situation, help you stay safely in your own home.
He cannot be allowed to get away with this . Look in phone book or online - google womens aid or refuge and phone the local number, not the national one as its harder to get through. The police will be in the phone book and will have the WA number too.
Good luck - do it for your baby.

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