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NEED SOME RAPID ADVICE NOW domestic abuse situation

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milkmonster · 24/10/2007 11:50

Im spinning this off quick as he's in the shed for half an hour scuse spelling etc. Together 5 years have 6month old baby has been pysical emotional and mental abuse for last 4 years has got worse since baby though he not violent physically anymre since she born. today feels like last straw for me trip to see my family planned, its my birthday today, my sister has taken time off work specially to see, it s half term so babys cousins can visit her, family lives 300 miles away, my boyfriend has pulled out of the trip he does this many many times in the past uses it to blackmail me into being 'good'i know this all sounds cliched but its real, i rent this house, he is not on the tenacny, he is not supposed o be living here due to tenancy conditions, because of whats happened today i feel like calling the landlady round and asking her to have him move out, but he says hell start smashing the house up cos im the tenant ill be responsible for the damage he says, he will do it, he has alrady damamged the house and contents previously.

he does have places to go, hoe owns his own house though hecant live in it hes a hoarder, but he has freinds to go to.

is there any wya i can avoid him smashing the house, nce the landlady leaves after telling him to go hell just come back half hour later, i really want to avoid involving police as it will make it worse for me, he has even said before he';d kidnap the baby if id did naything like this.

what does anyone think?

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Smine · 18/12/2007 22:45

This is just something for you to consider. It may help you reduce the contact you have with ex, meaning you can get on with life, but allows you to let him have contact with your child. You can arrange supervised visits and you don't have to be there. If I'm right it can be done thru social services. You have a case for it and no one can say that you're not allowing him access.
Have been in similar situation and took a while to sort life out (and head), but now out the other side and a lot stronger.

MommalovesHerSpanglyXmasName · 20/12/2007 03:28

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Mommalove · 30/12/2007 02:36

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amytheearwaxbanisher · 30/12/2007 02:52

bump again

tyeanddye · 30/12/2007 20:45

I can only add from my own experience,Your ex chooses to behave the way he does...does he smash up his own stuff?or is it always yours(etc)Does he persist in his abusive behaviour when there are other people around?or does he revert to being Mr Nicey?
I left my ex 6 months ago,after he assaulted me.All of his abuse had been emotional,verbal and mental prior to that.It is becoming clearer to me every single day what i was living with,the fear bubbling away under the surface,and colouring every thought and decision i made about how i passed my days.
Also,our son.7,was learning from his primary role model,his beloved daddy,how to treat the people that you love and care about.
My triumph,if you can call it that,was to get the fuck out,and demonstrate to ALL of my four children,that you do NOT go through life behaving like that and come out smelling of roses,good luck,and RING WOMENSAID!!??xx

tyeanddye · 30/12/2007 20:47

What i meant to add,was that these men rarely,truly lose control,domestic violence is a learned behaviour with its own pattern.read Lundy Bancroft"Why does he do that" a study of the minds of angry and controlling men.
You will see it all right there,and the reasons why very few of these men can EVER be cured.

Mommalove · 31/12/2007 01:41

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milkmonster · 18/01/2008 01:51

Update.

Since he moved out, the routine has become that he lives in his house most of the week but stays over at mine from Fri-Sun. I text him to ask if he wants to see his daughter. So he comes over, uses my bath, asks me to do his laundry, opens a bottle of wine, plays with the baby for a while intermittently, falls asleep for several hours, and spends all the in-between time on my computer (he has no internet at his house yet). Last weekend I had to call the police to have him removed as he wouldn't leave. This weekend gone I threatened to call the police again, but he compleletly lost it because I said that, hid my phone and then picked up this large boulder on the grate (peice of granite rock or something from Greenland) and lunged towards me with it. I was holding the baby at the time. I screamed at him not to because I had the baby, the baby screamed. I thought him going would be an abrupt end to it all, but it's not . I can't quite believe he would do that when I was holding the baby. If the rock had slipped...?

After that I kept meekly asking him to leave, he said in half an hour, but he didnt leave. I couldn't call the police, because look what happens... so I'm sitting there with my baby, he's sitting there glaring. It's like a stand-off. He said once he would end up murdering me if I stayed with him, so the conversation returned to this, I asked him did he really mean that or was it just said in the heat of an argument. He paused for ages....I said, because I'm sure that's waht all killers say, that they didn't 'mean it'. If that rock had slipped, he would have killed me or the baby, but he'd never had meant it. Yet later that night he was meek and kind. Not apologetic, he says he has no remorse for what he does to me because I deserve it, it's the only way to get his message across as I don't 'listen' to him otherwise. Then the next day he leaves and is smiling and kind. Yes, he does share my bed, no, there is no sex. There is cuddling and warmth and you could not believe in a million years what he can be like in his alter ego. So much so, that I am constantly asking myself if I'm exaggerating what goes on, you know like when you watch yourself on video film for the first time and you think, "that's not me! Do I really sound like that?! Do I really talk that quickly?! Am I really that fidgety? Do I really have such a funny squint?!" But I know the evetns are real, just my perception of what is acceptable and what is horrific is questionable. I daren't question my own sanity in this situation, because he wants me to be 'nuts', I think I'm normal, but rationally, I realise that what's happened to me and is still happening could have a truamatic effect, although I am mentally and emotionally strong, invincible actually, but then one of my fgamily said if I think that, the damage's already done, that actually I'm not dealing with it as a strong person, but denying it.

I feel like I'm waiting for sonmething to eclipse, sometimes I wish he would expire (I don't want to use the word I mean, but you know what word I mean) then I have a good excuse to tell my baby when she grows up as to why her dad left or why we didnt stay together and I wont have to tell her about what happened to me then. Moving back to my family IS an option, I just feel like a limp lettuce at the moment trying to motivate myself to do it.

I do appreciate replies to this thread and I do read them all. I guess I'm really just typing this perhaps not for advice, because I realise deep down what to do, but to get it out of my system. Abstractly, another indication of my confusion, is that I would like a record, in case I should ever need the evidence, even though writing a 'blog' or whatever isnt going to be applicable in court, if the worst ever happens, I don't want him having my daughter if I died and I need proof he isnt safe enough to look after her. These are thoughts out loud, that's all. I know it looks dramatic typed down. I don't want to upset people on here, some who seem frustrated at my staying in this situation especially given last weekend's events, but it is harder than you can imagine and I feel like I'm turning things around at such a slow pace, but at least it IS a pace.

I will keep updating occassionally, until the day I finally move nearer to my family, with a new home and proper access rights are sorted legally. That seems like an impossible scenario today.

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ChristmasShinySnowflakes · 18/01/2008 01:58

I haven't been following your story but didn't want your update to go unanswered.

You clearly KNOW what you need to do, I'll be hoping and praying you find the strength in your heart and mind to do it as soon as possible.

Please do what you need to do to keep yourself and your daughter safe and happy. xx

ChiTownLady · 18/01/2008 02:00

I'm not sure what responses you want.

I very rarely post on MN am generally a lurker but I am that you are still prepared to keep him in your life when he in effect threatened to harm your baby.

How will you feel when something does happen.

Would that motivate you to do something about your situation?

I am sorry if this is too harsh - but I am incensed by what I have read - I have followed your scenario an am not sure what it would take for you to take some action.

I am sure other people will come up with some more constructive stuff

HansieMom · 18/01/2008 02:28

Whyever are you allowing him into your house? Into your life? Are you crazy? Heaven knows there should be one sane parent for your poor child. Get OUT! Leave! Go anywhere! The man is crazy as can be. Tomorrow is Friday. Do not let him in! Have you changed the locks? If you have not and if it is already Friday where you are, LEAVE and go to a shelter/refuge. Forget about pride and go to your family. I'm so frustrated! He tried to kill you and your baby, FGS!

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