Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

No breakfast after DTD

252 replies

Notanotherfreak · 20/12/2020 22:19

So I’m not sure if I’m being unreasonable, and need advice! Been dating a guy ..we’ve had 6 dates & had dinner at his last night (we’ve both had Covid before I’m flamed!). Was discussed beforehand that I’d stay. So he cooks me a lovely dinner, I stay, we DTD. All good. DTD again in the morning then get he gets up. I have a cup of tea then he says he has to walk the dog & then going for a run... it’s obvious then he’s not going to make me a coffee (I asked) or make me breakfast before I go. So I leave but tbh feel pretty pee’d off as it was all a bit efficient and kind of thought it would be nice to offer me breakfast before I go! Am I being precious? It’s not a work day but a Sunday! Am thinking maybe he got what he wanted and just wanted me gone? Not sure if this is a red flag or he’s just been a batchelor for so long he’s just is entrenched in his routine...what would you think?

OP posts:
Derbee · 21/12/2020 08:23

@TinaTurnoff

If he was taking the dog for a walk, I would have totally expected him to say ‘stay put, I’ll pick you up a coffee and pastry, and be back in 20 minutes.’ Did he whoosh you out as he was leaving?
I would never leave someone in my house on their own before I know them. That would be strange
Derbee · 21/12/2020 08:28

Also, it’s bollocks that it’s the “honeymoon stage”. You’re not in a relationship.

You stayed the night and had sex. He may well like you, but didn’t want you hanging around all day. He made you a cup of tea, and then encouraged you to go home so that he could spend his Sunday how he wanted to. I genuinely don’t see anything wrong with that.

It would have been nicer to spend the morning together, but maybe he didn’t think, or he felt a bit awkward and wanted you to go home. If you get on, I wouldn’t get too hung up on it.

Arrivederla · 21/12/2020 08:38

@Butterymuffin

FFS. I know not everyone eats breakfast, but on the other hand it's not some weird niche custom either. And if you are keen on someone, you'd think of things they might like, and if you didn't have stuff in, you'd suggest going out for a coffee or breakfast to keep the date going.
Well, exactly this. All these comments about not eating breakfast and not wanting a tea and a coffee...Confused

A normal, polite functioning adult will offer a guest something to eat in the morning, not just rush them out of the door so that they can get on with their day. Especially after doing the deed!!

simone1863 · 21/12/2020 08:44

If he had to get up and physically go to work is there the same issue? Maybe he has a ton of paperwork to deal with and doesn't want someone hovering around while doing it. I've certainly been in that position before.

badacorn · 21/12/2020 08:51

I don’t think this is about him being thoughtless about the little details. The important thing is that this isn’t how a man treats a woman he wants a proper relationship with. This is more like the way someone treats a casual sex partner. Actions speak louder than words!

I’d give him the elbow.

Notanotherfreak · 21/12/2020 08:51

Hi thanks for all the replies. I’ve woken up feeling not as pissed off as I was yesterday - but am just going to put it down to experience. I’ll see what he says later but I’m going to back off. He’s not had many relationships and maybe this is why. He is a bit eccentric (sorry to all those I offended by saying on the spectrum) and has been really lovely and gentlemanly up to now. I’m not invested in the situation and slept with him knowing it would show more about him and his intentions afterwards. Today will be telling and I’ll let you know how it goes/what he says. If I decide to see him again I’ll definitely bring it up. It wasn’t so much not getting breakfast that has bothered me but how it made me feel. I’m not 100% sure he’s right for me anyway so it won’t be a great loss!

OP posts:
PoorMansPaulaRadcliffe · 21/12/2020 08:51

I'm not saying he didn't maybe rush her out with quite indecent haste - I'm not sure. But if someone was made a tea, it's inaccurate to say they didn't even get a coffee. They got a drink. I think one is ample. I wouldn't want to hang around all morning drinking hot beverages, myself.

SleepingStandingUp · 21/12/2020 08:54

You want a grown up relationship, just mention it.

Hey you wanna come over Saturday, I'll cook and we can fuck?
Depends, do a get breakfast this time?
What do you mean?
You'd got me on your doorstep cold and hungry by 9 am last week!

Said light heartedly and with a laugh not earnestly with tears

Bunnyfuller · 21/12/2020 09:15

@SleepingStandingUp

You want a grown up relationship, just mention it.

Hey you wanna come over Saturday, I'll cook and we can fuck?
Depends, do a get breakfast this time?
What do you mean?
You'd got me on your doorstep cold and hungry by 9 am last week!

Said light heartedly and with a laugh not earnestly with tears

Exactly this
lottiegarbanzo · 21/12/2020 09:19

I think you had it in one with him having been single for a long time and stuck in his own routine.

(And rather rude and self-centred, never pausing to consider how he comes across to other people, or that that could be different from the way he sees himself and the world).

I have met plenty of men like this, who are friends with other men like this, so take selfishness to be the norm. Their idea of having a guest to stay for the weekend is going for a night out on Saturday but otherwise sticking to their own routine and expecting the guest to fit in around that.

I suspect that to him, DTD was the romance.

I think a lot of women are so heavily trained to think of others and to see their own low self-esteem as normal, that they fail to recognise that this is not the case for most men and that many, many men experience the opposite effect, of falsely-inflated self-esteem, which they have never paused to question.

You should tell him clearly what you had expected, why you were surprised and how this made you feel. See how he reacts.

But bear in mind that even an 'oh, I'm sorry, I'll try harder in future' is the start of a very long, hard path, of you having to spell out expected behaviour all the time and of him, however willing to improve and impress he claims to be, tiring of this, expressing frustration and probably reacting to you as if you're his mum.

Only a truly contrite and capable 'you're right, I'm sorry', which takes all the responsibility, will do.

NotMeekNotObedient · 21/12/2020 09:43

Odd, if he can't even offer you a drink and some toast imagine being in a long term relationship with him. I'd call him out on it...either he'll apologie and change his ways or you'll know move on to someone better.

Jobsharenightmare · 21/12/2020 09:46

Out of the house by 9.15 on a Sunday because he wanted to walk the dog? If he was that into you he would have asked you to join him!

OhCaptain · 21/12/2020 09:50

But he did offer her a drink. Then she decided that drink wasn’t enough!

SleepingStandingUp · 21/12/2020 09:52

@NotMeekNotObedient

Odd, if he can't even offer you a drink and some toast imagine being in a long term relationship with him. I'd call him out on it...either he'll apologie and change his ways or you'll know move on to someone better.
She did have a drink.

He made her a cup of tea and then she wanted a coffee but expected him to know this without her telling him

ballsdeep · 21/12/2020 09:56

@SleepingStandingUp

You want a grown up relationship, just mention it.

Hey you wanna come over Saturday, I'll cook and we can fuck?
Depends, do a get breakfast this time?
What do you mean?
You'd got me on your doorstep cold and hungry by 9 am last week!

Said light heartedly and with a laugh not earnestly with tears

This!

I'd deal with it this way too.

Notanotherfreak · 21/12/2020 09:57

No I didn’t expect him to know without telling him and this thread isn’t about coffee. I was put out at being rushed out of his house so early. It was in stark contrast to the romantic evening we’d had the night before. RTFT!

OP posts:
SainsIsOrange · 21/12/2020 10:05

Assuming you're looking for someone to settle down with -

This isn't the behaviour you'd expect from a man falling in love, now is it.
Next!

Backtoblack1 · 21/12/2020 10:07

What have the texts been like since? Does he seem into you? Do you think you could mention in a jokey way that you were on the doorstep by 9.15? Hopefully the penny will drop with him x

BreatheAndFocus · 21/12/2020 10:11

He sounds like he puts himself as top priority no matter the situation. Even if he jobs to do, he could have been more polite and affectionate about it.

It depends what you’re looking for, of course, but I couldn’t be arsed with someone who was so self-absorbed and discourteous.

Notanotherfreak · 21/12/2020 10:14

I agree, it wasn’t affectionate, just.... odd.

OP posts:
SleepingStandingUp · 21/12/2020 10:16

I think without knowing what was said it's hard to judge.

Have you finished your tea yet? I need to get out, here's your coat..Vs. I need to walk the dog; oh ok I'll leave then.

dottiedodah · 21/12/2020 10:17

If it was a Sunday then why did you have to rush home?

Eckhart · 21/12/2020 10:22

The thing about red flags is that there isn't a list of rules about what is a red flag and what isn't. Your red flags won't be the same as anybody else's. Red flags don't mean that people aren't suitable to have a relationship, they are flags for you to be able to tell if someone is suitable to have a relationship with you.

So, even if he'd done something innocent that triggered a bad feeling in you, that would be a red flag for you; red flags signal incompatibility.

So this:

But it left me feeling empty & upset

Is the red flag. Some people might admire him for getting up for a run on a Sunday morning, and the fact that he's faithful to his routine. You don't like it.

You don't need to ask the internet if you're right to feel bad about something: respect your own feelings. Self validate. Read about self validation. Know your boundaries and enforce them. In short: back off from people who make you feel rubbish.

Crossornot · 21/12/2020 10:26

I think you’re annoyed at him because you imagined a very specific idea of what should have happened - he offers you a coffee, he offers you breakfast, he texts after saying how nice it was to have you over - and what he actually did - offer you tea, ask if you want to go for a walk (you declined), text after to say how sunny it was - don’t match up. But I don’t actually think what he did was rude or unfeeling at all. Maybe if you’d gone on the walk breakfast would have happened after. Perhaps you’re feeling a little vulnerable and therefore reacting a bit defensively, but I think it would be silly to decide in your mind that he’s wronged you. Just wait and see how it goes.

Eckhart · 21/12/2020 10:29

@TinaTurnoff

If he was taking the dog for a walk, I would have totally expected him to say ‘stay put, I’ll pick you up a coffee and pastry, and be back in 20 minutes.’ Did he whoosh you out as he was leaving?
As a dog owner, I'd say that would be quite hard, because the dog can't go into a shop and it's a bad idea to leave them tied up outside.