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Dating Thread 196 - Winter Wonderland Walks

999 replies

Dancerinthemoonlight · 19/11/2020 12:27

The Rules:

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is don't talk about it with people you're dating.
  2. Develop a thick skin.
  3. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  4. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  5. Trust your gut instinct.
  6. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
  7. Know your worth.
  8. If it's not fun, stop.
  9. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread. 11. Treat others as you'd like to be treated 12. Any relationship you have that could get ruined by having a conversation about your feelings, standards and/or expectations wasn't really stable enough to begin with 13. The things you choose to ignore/ tolerate now are the reasons you will break up in the future 14. OLD can get very time consuming. Keep doing other activities you enjoy.

Optional: Please give your irons (potential dates you are talking to) nicknames like Mr Scottish. Initials are allowed (Mr S) when you are an item

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LongtimelurkerL · 28/11/2020 13:32

Sounds good @Mayzee

Eesha · 28/11/2020 13:33

@Bunkbedpeople weekend roll call: I haven't seen Mr Yoga this weekend as his parents are down plus he had said earlier about maybe bubbling with them from now. I will double check this with him as I have booked a restaurant for next week for his birthday and it looks fully booked now so I don't want to let my reservation go if he then changes his mind.

Bunkbedpeople · 28/11/2020 13:34

Lol 😂 That’s exactly it @Ruralbliss

To be fair there’s no pressure on his part to glam up but I’d personally like to.

If our first date is at his with a takeaway (not much choice really!) it would be nice to discreetly create a fairly nice “welcome-home” setting.

There’s a burgundy nightie thing I’m watching like a hawk

His last message (last week) said that his replacement is in the country getting Covid tested so if that goes through then the replacement flies out to ship and they swap.

But MrC will probably have to go through testing and isolation himself leaving the country so I’m hoping for coming week but might be after?

I’ve suggested he just updates me when he knows exactly what’s happening as I don’t want fifty “oh we THINK this is happening” messages.

Plus I don’t want to “play hard to get” as I’m easy as fuck, but also I kind of want seeing me to be a “treat” for him so let him do a bit of chasing/organising his end.

We’ve confirmed over chat we’re extending straight away as he lives alone and I can walk from his to mine and walk from his to my work

so there’s not really a lot of organising beyond shaving, trimming Blush and moisturising heavily. I paint my own nails.

If it doesn’t work out expect I’ll need the grooming for dating anyway Smile

After all, nothing better than getting groomed, dressing up to the nines, skipping out the door....

.... to spend an hour trapped in a dull chat with MrTwitchy or MrPotatohead. Hmm

Bunkbedpeople · 28/11/2020 13:43

@Eesha

Fingers crossed you get that nice meal out before Xmas!

jigglypuffcookie · 28/11/2020 13:47

@Ruralbliss hope you're ok!

I deleted Mr fox and Mr tall but mr tall got back in touch. He does this all the time, doesn't message for a few days then starts again! But still no attempt to meet up and when called up on it said it's difficult just now as he'd want to get a hotel to take me out for drinks (he lives an hour drive away and is in tier 3 so not meant to leave the area). I think it's excuses but partly hope he's telling the truth...

Matched with a new guy (I'll call him mr gas) and been chatting all week. He called last night and we've arranged a date next week! He hasn't messaged today tho so will see what happens.

What does we do about tinder matches? I always wait for the guy to message but have quite a few matches with no messages - think nobody left in my area 😂

TiggerDatter · 28/11/2020 13:53

Lol, Mr Twitchy!

Bunkbedpeople · 28/11/2020 13:59

@jigglypuffcookie

I haven’t been on tinder a long time (few days last winter and maybe a month or 2 this summer) and I live in a big city so big turnover of people.

I found lots of matches but many of them wouldn’t message first and if I messaged first the chats fizzled out. But then a lot of the initially very keen guys were keen because they wanted a last minute hookup Hmm

Bumble obviously you message first anyway so I’d just do a “Hi” or a wave emoticon.

Not really sure where I’m going with this but I don’t think it’s uncommon to feel things are a bit “sparse” even if you’re a great catch and open to connection

I’d just be patient, keep your boundaries and standards, maybe take a break and come back with new photos if it’s really dire?

Dating is tough right now with lockdown etc.

freelancedolly · 28/11/2020 14:16

Good luck @Mayzee - that sounds positive. Terrible isn't it how guarded we all become about the likelihood of things being too good to be true, or looking for the inevitable downside? Fingers crossed there just ISN'T one here.

@Bunkbedpeople yes I like that phase of doing innocent nice things to please the other person, in that lovely sense of knowing they don't expect it. Really hope MrC gets to come home next week and the depilation will not need to be revisited Grin

I'm shit at underwear - the most glam I get are Gossard Glossies which I LOVE... what the feck do men even want in terms of underwear - I have no idea.

@Ruralbliss - a few days after he'd parked me, bleating he was too stressed and tired to come and see me, and getting ever more strangulated in his messaging, he finally said he was under just SO much pressure that he couldn't even manage a 5 minute call for us to say goodbye and close things off. This was after initially saying he just needed a week to sort himself out, having love bombed me massively and promising to help support me through my upcoming court hearings with exH and even decorate my house (Hmm). On a whim I redownloaded Tinder which had been previously deleted, and saw him come up almost instantly with a different profile description and photos. Took a screen shot and sent it to him on WhatsApp with an angry 'wtf - you can't be THAT stressed and overwhelmed' message - he denied that it was him (there isn't an eye roll big enough) and then blocked me. Because they are the actions of a man telling the truth, clearly Hmm.

What a twat. I do find it really tragic how emotionally immature these men are, that they really can't be upfront about the fact they over promised, or have changed their minds, or lost the spark, or whatever it is - it's not exactly rocket science. Your narcissistic ex (mine was also first proper attempt at dating after marriage) sounds ludicrous - announcing anything on social media makes me feel a bit bilious - but classic narcissism 101.

@jigglypuffcookie if I really like the look of someone I will message them first but mostly wait for them to message me.

Weekend roll call here: supposed to be driving up to London on Wednesday to have a kind of work visit to MrR - he's just been made redundant but is involved in a start up in an area I have 'expertise' in and myself and a friend are going to visit his studio to give our opinion on what they're doing... will be a bit odd and our first 'official engagement' in front of a friend. We're also still tentatively hoping to be going away to Tenerife on 16th for 5 days... I've just ordered my compulsory covid test which will need to be sent off beforehand. I'm getting a bit giddy at the thought of wearing heels, summer clothes, and god forbid a bit of make up, and going out to an actual restaurant... so exciting I can't even.

It's all going really quite well - but I too am plagued with 'what's the catch?' worry. Surely, just surely, this is too good to be true?

bangheadhere40 · 28/11/2020 14:28

Quick query...does anyone know how to check photos are real? Chatting to a very handsome man but get the impression may be fake pics 🙂

bangheadhere40 · 28/11/2020 14:34

Ooh just found him on LinkedIn he is real. Will call him Mr Vet.

Whoknows11 · 28/11/2020 14:47

First date tonight, going for a walk as nothing open! Starting to get nervous as not dated in ages!! Any tips please? Linda starting to freak out!

freelancedolly · 28/11/2020 15:14

What time are you going @Whoknows11? Think about maybe being near some toilets, taking a hot drink..?? I haven't done a dating walk during lockdown in the dark - make sure you're warm enough! FFS the things we go through for the cause!

Ruralbliss · 28/11/2020 15:18

Good luck @Whoknows11 I've only been on walking dates prévues pandemic and I always used the opportunity to link arms with them if I liked them as, you know, a sign but I guess that is anti-rules.

Not a great time of year to be meeting new people and this year extra bloody tough.

Hope it is worth your while and let us know how you got on.

Whoknows11 · 28/11/2020 15:18

@freelancedolly thanks! 7pm argh! Yes toilets on route and it's well lit! He seems normal ha ha but keen to come back to mine for a coffee! Assured me he's not after one thing! Hope it's not a red flag!
Lockdown dates are pretty restricted! A walk in the daylight means I could bump into my ex with my children!!

Whoknows11 · 28/11/2020 15:20

@ruralbliss ah yes these rules and dates don't really go together do they!

SortingItOut · 28/11/2020 15:59

@bangheadhere40
In future if you need to check photos you can use tineye.com

Bunkbedpeople · 28/11/2020 16:32

Good luck @Whoknows11 have fun stay safe

@freelancedolly yeh I get you completely, it’s like being so used to emotionally off balance/on edge/love bombed that someone calm and sorted is harder to adjust to.

I get the feeling of “feeling stupid” for believing in someone too - but ultimately we can only manage our own emotional health, and deal with situations one week or occasion at a time.

Plus the alternative is being excessively cynical which will result in good people being put off us.

Weirdly enough I quite like practical stuff like helping out with work things - like you say it seems to be moving forward with intimacy. You’ll both have earned your holiday time

WeWantTheFinestWines · 28/11/2020 18:02

bunkbed I try hard not to feel stupid when I've believed in a relationship when it turned out I shouldn't have. We have to be careful and questioning and sceptical but not cynical - difficult balance to strike. It does seem that if it seems too good to be true, it probably is... So many stories on here of cowards who don't have the guts to end things properly. That really makes me angry - how dare they treat another human being like that! The bastards.

I have high hopes for you though freelance - sometimes good things and people really are just good things and people.

cravingthelook · 28/11/2020 19:07

Sitting at home crying because I've had the last three weeks from hell, this being the worst and I've had my dinner date bail on me tonight with an hours notice (I bought the stuff to make dinner) he is insisting we can have it for lunch tomorrow but I don't think I have the energy to make more plans.

I'm not crying because of him bailing it's just everything and if tipped me over the edge. And now I'm sitting in a spotless house ... can't be bothered to cook,
drinking beer, with a headache from crying.

I'm such a saddo

freelancedolly · 28/11/2020 19:08

@WeWantTheFinestWines - thanks for your high hopes... today I really do feel plagued with insecurity. MrR is being quieter than normal and I noticed not quite as flirty over the past couple of days. I really do feel so bloody scarred by relationships/dating/etc that any change in behaviour makes me feel quite anxious. I know however that going to him and asking him to reassure me will not help - have lit the fire and watching a movie with my DC... time to keep my feet on the ground and remind myself that I hadn't even met him 2 months ago.

I can't wait for the gyms to open on Wednesday - small mercies for us here in Tier 3 - I think I need to stay as active as possible and focus as much as I can on MY life, rather than daydreaming about a fictional future.

freelancedolly · 28/11/2020 19:10

You're not a saddo @cravingthelook - that's pretty bloody shoddy. Is he coming over tomorrow? I would be tempted to fuck that off. Cancelling dinner with an hour's notice is shite.

What was his excuse?

Ruralbliss · 28/11/2020 19:34

Fuck @cravingthelook what the hell is going on with him bailing.

That makes two of us crying.

I only came on here as a distraction to not text or call Mr VW

I'm so sorry. That's really bloody crap. You have every right to be upset.

Ruralbliss · 28/11/2020 19:36

@freelancedolly it's that gut feeling isn't it hopefully that Mr R just settling into a business as usual vibe but is sensitive ones do notice these teeny things

Ruralbliss · 28/11/2020 19:40

Finding it really hard to resist the temptation to spark a conversation with MrVW and instead let it slide. He did message me two days before bailing and did say 'shit not going to be able to do Saturday' but my heart and my gut know he's just not into me and surely by my radio silence if I was wrong and he actually was he'd be phoning me to speak to me and make alternate arrangements but he's not and there's no future in it so o have to let him go but I'm sad he doesn't want me and I don't know why and can't stop weeping.

Also in a house tidied for his VIP arrival with food I don't fancy eating in my own.

Mayzee · 28/11/2020 19:44

Aw @cravingthelook it’s obviously the final straw that broke you if you’ve had a tough few weeks. I would be very tempted not to meet tomorrow if it’s not going to make you feel better. Definitely have a wallow and night of selfcare.
And hugs to you too @Ruralbliss ...none of us deserve to be treated like this by these flaky dire men

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