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Too Soon After Wife Passed Away?

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DontBlameMe79 · 30/10/2020 04:55

First time poster, need to share and don't have anyone else. Short story is there is a senior bloke at work that I've worked closely with for the last 3 years (not my boss). He seemed to be one of those too good to be true types, everyone likes him, natural leader without being overbearing, supportive of his team, amazing dry sense of humour had me in stitches, and he did all this without seeming to try that hard (is a workaholic tho). Long-time marriage and 2 DCs in early 20s (I think he's mid-50s). I'm 41 and divorced 5 years ago, one DC is 12. Separation reasonably amicable, just didn't work in the end and we rub along now. I've dated on and off but it's depressing. I admit I had a massive crush on this guy when we started working together but circumstances meant nothing happened obviously and he was always just professional, but I fell pretty hard. Managed to shake it in the end, but it's never completely gone away.

Then his wife passed away in March, right before COVID. Short illness and no treatment apparently. I didn't see that much of him right after because of lockdown but from what I heard from others he was devastated. Then for the last couple of months I've seen him again at work and he's subdued but doing the stiff upper lip thing but I sometimes see him staring out of the window looking sad and my heart melts. Then we had lunch at work a few weeks ago that was supposed to be a quick sandwich on business but we ended up over 2 hours. He talked about his wife and some of how he felt, but he's still pretty guarded. I just listened for the most part. He seems fatalistic about what's happened but obviously massive impact. Anyway that two hours triggered the feelings I had 3 years ago in a way I've never experienced before, to the point of not sleeping, losing appetite, like I'm 15 again blah blah. He's never given any indication of being interested in me as anything other than a friend and work colleague, but before his loss we had so much chemistry when we were talking and the occasional little flirt from both of us. I always found him physically very attractive and he has a weird physical issue (it's a bit identifying so I won't say more) that everyone can see that he acts as if is not even there. The way he just gets on with things despite this is another part of the attraction, I suppose it's the confidence. I know I'm gushing but I don't have anyone else to say this to.

Now I don't know what to do. I want to respect what happened to his wife, but truth is he's the first potential partner since my divorce I can even imagine being with. Here's the thing though, I know there are others who think the same and fact is he's also loaded financially from career success. I'm fortunate myself so that's not a factor, but that plus his other attributes mean I can't get out of my head that he's going to be targeted and I'll suddenly find out he's with someone else. The thought of that happening is making me feel physically sick. Literally. I've even been hoping for tighter lockdown in the hope it will stop anything else happening. So looking for some views on whether it's too soon to try to nudge things along ever so subtly, and even how to do it. I don't want to look like a vulture but my thoughts are driving me nuts. Which is why I'm posting this in the middle of the night :( sorry for the rambling. I just needed to share really.

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IncandescentSilver · 07/11/2020 14:24

Diggadoo You've not gotten over a crush in three years, but you expect him to get over the death of his wife of 20+ years in seven months and fall into your arms. Fucking hell, you've a lower opinion of him than you think you do. If he ends up with you, it will be a rebound and he'll likely end up hating himself for it and possibly you too. You who definitely swooped in like a vulture for the easy pickings.

Wow. I'm actually far more concerned at what goes through the mind of someone who goes to the trouble to write something like that.

Men do move on quickly. And we are in lockdown - having a friend to talk to is very helpful for someone relatively recently bereaved. Who knows, it may grow into something more than friendship.

I think the suggestion of going for a walk is a good one - I'd maybe frame it along the lines of "I often go walking at x on Sundays, if you feel like joining me?"

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MushMonster · 07/11/2020 14:37

This thread keeps going!
It sounds like you are letting him come to you on his own time, so that is good, really good.
Keep your feet on the ground, your head is well in cloud 9Grin
I wish you good luck OP. Just rush is not needed, never, for nothing in life. Rushed things are never good (and they are very different from quick things)

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Fudgsicles · 07/11/2020 23:21

I'd feel encouraged by his response OP!

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ImAGummyBear · 08/11/2020 00:58

That's great OP! You put it out to him now the ball's in his court... whatever happens it's worth it, better than forever thinking what if.
Best of luck! I really wish you well xxx

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brokencrayons · 08/11/2020 02:33

Totally agree with this.

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Horsemad · 08/11/2020 09:35

@ConcernedAboutWarrington

Oh OP there are some real vipers on this thread.

I think you should text / email him and say:

Subject: Hi

Hi Steve

It's been great chatting with you lately and I do mean what I say - if there's anything I can do to help / support you then I will - it's been quite a year for you, I know.

I'm just conscious that we've been talking quite a lot during work time, but if you would like to got out for dinner sometime (when we can!) then I'd like that too. That way we can have a proper chat without watching the clock, and maybe have a glass of wine too. No worries if not, I'm sure you're busy too.

Anyway see you on _(whenever)_ for the __ project meeting.

DontBlameMe79

You can't just WAIT and HOPE for him to come to you?! Give the door a little push. He might open it, he might not. You've given him an out too. For goodness sake you get one life, just live it!

This sounds a good approach.
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Ludoole · 08/11/2020 13:49

I met my partner 6 weeks after my husband died... 5 years on and we are still together. In fairness I had done most of my grieving while dh was dying. If you are both open to try then go for it. It may or may not work but I'd at least rather take a chance at happiness.

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Leflic · 08/11/2020 14:31

You can't just WAIT and HOPE for him to come to you?! Give the door a little push. He might open it, he might not. You've given him an out too. For goodness sake you get one life, just live it!

Fine in theory. Unfortunately the Op has been thinking about this bloke for years and is massively infatuated.
He might “ open the door” because he’s being polite and feels he owes her a drink, he might be bored, who knows. The Op is making herself needlessly vulnerable here.
Leave it to him. If he actually wants to go for a drink he’ll invite her. Let him wonder at her motives not the other way round.

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MiddlesexGirl · 09/11/2020 10:36

In the light of OP's update I definitely would not send an email.
It sounds like he is happy to have OP as someone to talk to and possibly more.
OP just needs patience and empathy and she's already shown she has those.
My fingers are firmly crossed for you OP Flowers

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Shelby30 · 09/11/2020 10:50

Personally it's way too soon. If he really likes you then he won't be snapped by someone else as he'd wait until he's ready and then ask you out. He might not be ready to even think about that for a year or 2/3 or more.

At first I thought when you mentioned 3 yrs his wife had died 3 yrs ago and thought that was absolutely fine. Unless you have been through something like this you just won't understand. I mean her clothes are probably still in the wardrobe, maybe even her toothbrush sitting out. Men are known to move on kore quickly though 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Eryouwhat · 30/11/2020 22:38

Any update @DontBlameMe79

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DontBlameMe79 · 01/12/2020 11:30

Funnily enough I was about to do a quick update. I thought long and hard about this thread. In the end, "only having one life" won out. Admittedly it was in line with what I wanted to do as well, nothing is certain. The thing that got me there was feeling that if he wasn't interested it was a manageable thing for both of us, both personally and professionally. There were many who advised that everything could go to custard very quickly, and that's possible, but it just didn't feel that way knowing my circumstances.

So in the end I tried to send subtle messages about interest that would be easy to gloss over if there was no interest on his part. And anyway I just don't see him going all gossipy if he wasn't interested.

I mentioned our last zoom call when he asked me to stay on afterwards. That was followed by a couple of work one-to-ones, and they went on a bit longer than was strictly necessary for professional reasons. I will admit that some make up was deployed for the 2nd one, little bit more thought went into the top than WFH home usually needs. He probably didn't notice but made me feel a bit more confident anyway. He did say "you look well today", so maybe he did. I've never heard him comment on anyone's appearance before.

We have always use WhatsApp for work, and that has developed into exchanges that go beyond just work. Tiny bit of flirting from both of us, but plausible deniability.

Then he asked if I still wanted to catch up for that socially distanced coffee (we live not that far apart). We did that last week. Spent almost 2 hours in the park, between work and personal. He talked about his wife and family of course as well as other things.

I know the infatuation, but he is fu**ing gorgeous. He is just so funny in this very dry way - not like he's cracking jokes as that isn't where his head is given what's happened. Just the way he observes the world and people. Hard to explain. Then he's got this personal survival story like you wouldn't believe that makes you shake your head. After leaving I had the full butterflies and feeling on a high reaction. 16 year old indeed. He's also a couple of years younger than I thought he was.

We've been WhatsApping daily now. Plan to meet up again tomorrow afternoon (getting too cold for this :)) Still trying to work out how to push things along in an appropriate way. Without breaking the law. Although I'm starting to think it might be worth the fine :)

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LaurieFairyCake · 01/12/2020 11:42

It's fine

If it was me I would say very clearly (no bush beating!) that I was romantically interested in him and for him to bear that in mind if he was ever ready to start dating again.

I literally would write that ^^ on a card and give it to him.

If I died feel free to grab my husband (he's great, you sound lovely) within 6 months of my death Thanks

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DontBlameMe79 · 01/12/2020 15:18

@LaurieFairyCake
You know what, that sounds like a pretty good idea 😄😄. I’m still in the bush beating stage of course, but when I’m ready I like that approach. Thanks for the thought!

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ImAGummyBear · 01/12/2020 23:55

Way to go girl! Now its time to go with the flow and hopefully things turn out good for both of you... and even if they don't at least you'll know you tried to reach for what you felt so intensely for.

Got everything crossed for you 🤞

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DontBlameMe79 · 13/06/2021 16:03

Felt I should do an update in appreciation of all the advice. Things have gone well within the covid constraints which have made things slower obviously. But we’re an item. He’s not perfect and can sometimes be a bit moody but always apologises and of course he’s been through a lot so not surprising. I’ve met his kids and that seemed fine but not pushing anything there. I’m basically in love. Who knows where it will go but for now ❤️❤️❤️

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SilverOtter · 13/06/2021 16:39

@DontBlameMe79

Felt I should do an update in appreciation of all the advice. Things have gone well within the covid constraints which have made things slower obviously. But we’re an item. He’s not perfect and can sometimes be a bit moody but always apologises and of course he’s been through a lot so not surprising. I’ve met his kids and that seemed fine but not pushing anything there. I’m basically in love. Who knows where it will go but for now ❤️❤️❤️

I'm so happy for you both - it's lovely to actually hear a happy ending on here!❤️
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pog100 · 13/06/2021 16:42

Ah great. I'm glad you've proved all those judgemental naysayers wrong. You seemed pretty sensible me, despite the infatuation and seem to have handled it well. Good luck!

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BurningRed · 13/06/2021 18:11

@DontBlameMe79 I’m so very happy for you.

You’re a good woman, patient and kind xxx

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WatieKatie · 13/06/2021 18:18

Well done OP I’m really pleased that this had a happy ending.

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WornOutWorm · 13/06/2021 18:26

If he hasn’t made any moves then I’d stay being his friend. Having coffee and a chat. Then maybe a drink after work see why he says if he’s hesitant or just says no continue with lunches .. after work drink because lunches are too short could be a reason to use

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gingerandproud4always · 13/06/2021 18:36

Arghhhhh well done

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SilverOtter · 13/06/2021 18:46

@WornOutWorm I think you need to re-read the thread...or at the update...

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SilverOtter · 13/06/2021 18:46

*at least the update🙄

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DontBlameMe79 · 13/06/2021 18:52

😄😄😄 It’s well past the lunch stage thank goodness. The, er, private time, is almost beyond belief, and I’m experiencing new things that have opened my eyes to what a passionate relationship can be. I still get the butterflies when we’re going to meet and fancy the pants off him. But it’s much more than that. I know it will wear off and we’re in the early phase but for now I’ll just enjoy and hope and do the best I can.

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