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95 percent Jekyll, 5 percent Hyde...to leave or not?

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Houserabbit · 24/09/2020 08:40

I’ve nc for this.
If my partner was an overbearing man on a daily basis this would be so much easier...most of the time, his most obvious character trait is how quiet and shy he is. He has had long bouts of social anxiety throughout his life (He also has ED which he told me started in his 20s...he’s late 30s now) and most people would think he was a gentle person. He is gentle at home too and we get on very well on a day to day basis...if it wasn’t for his actions during his Mr Hyde periods...which I find hard to forgive, I would go as far as to say we will well suited....he doesn’t control what I do or who I see in any way, doesn’t dictate what I wear or my interests. I don’t walk on egg shells on a daily basis. To the outside world he appears like the ideal partner and most of the time, he is.

However, he has (or had) a dark side. I know this isn’t unusual in abusers ...I know most of them don’t waltz about in tee-shirts with ‘abuser’ on the front, swigging stella and swinging blows...but my problem is the abusive actions are so rare...and his split personality is so unevenly balanced, with ‘normal’ and ‘nice’ forming so much of his make-up that my head is screwed.

A few years back he behaved quite badly when drunk in front of his long-term friends and exposed his nasty side...possibly for the first time ever in front of them. He is normally very quiet but had had stress at work and was also feeling aggrieved that his friends were on high salaries while his, while over the national average and perfectly respectable, wasn’t comparable. When someone mentioned their own high wage he just blew up...basically saying they didn’t deserve what they were paid and making a scene. He later told he me wasn’t jealous...just that the fact everyone else found career progression easy and he didn’t, frustrating...and he was also steaming drunk. I believed this outburst was a one off because his friends have known him 20 years and all remarked this was the first incidence of anything like this. I don’t think the outburst came from a place of spite more feelings of in adequacy. However, seeing this, on the spur of the moment I told him I wanted to leave him partly because when he stomped out after his outburst his friends also told me about him cheating on his ex-wife. When we met he told me he was divorced due to an affair...I didn’t quiz him on this, he volunteered it and while he told me he was to blame, I hadn’t realised quite how much he had disrespected his wife ...basically he’d told me that the affair was a one off over a few months and he’d never done anything like that before. His friends told me however, that he’d cheated on her with two people. It wasn’t this that made me want to leave him but disgust I suppose, that he’d sounded so believable when he’d told me how much of a saint he’s been in the marriage apart from the affair...I hadn’t probed...it wasn’t a situation where he’d been forced to lie. When everything had calmed down I began to appreciate how his anxiety and frustration led to him being so nasty to his friend...not great, but a first time offence in a life-time of being placid and given how drunk he was..these things do happen I suppose. However, instead of feeling mortified and apologising to his friends the next day as most people would...once I’d told him I was leaving him, he decided to use me as cannon fodder. In his anxious mind, under the impression I was leaving he now had no girlfriend and possibly no friends either (this wouldn’t have been the case, they would have forgiven and forgotten...but his anxious paranoia and hungover brain didn’t see it that way) so he decided to invent a story about me to divert attention from his outburst. Basically informing his friend I’d badmouthed them...I hadn’t...in fact I’d told him off for being nasty to them...but he thought that I was leaving and these people would never see me again. I didn’t find out for months and when I did, it seemed to me the most bizarre thing I’d ever heard of...and childish...like a toddler caught with chocolate around his mouth denying eating any and pointing his finger at the innocent child next to saying ‘she did it’. He is an exceptionally childlike person but not normally in a way that hurts other people.

Anyway, when I got upset about finding out about what he’d done I admit I called him a coward...I said he’d behaved like a pre-teen girl and demanded he correct his lies. Which he did...sort of. He later said this caused him ‘stress’ . So much stress that a few weeks later, after drinking again he physically attacked me...I know being drunk is absolutely no excuse but I only mention it because he no longer drinks`to excess and hasn’t for a couple of years). It was a very serious assault and it was only through luck that I didn’t die. A stronger person would have left then but I didn’t....I can make all the excuses under the sun, that I was far away from all my family and friends, had financial worries, that he gaslighted me as did his parents, that I thought I’d be blamed because I’d ‘nagged’ him, the shock (I had a head injury) and while all these are true, the fact I stayed is my fault..no one else’s. I do think ether was some trauma bonding for sure...but he didn’t lock me up and force me to stay. I made that decision and I know it’s not a commendable one.

I think I was in shock for a couple of years. After the assault I started having problems with sleep until I was only getting a few hours...gradually I became like a zombie. I wandered around in this state for a few years until I got proper counselling and was diagnosed with ptsd. During this time he has ‘grown up’ he says he knows he has treated me and his ex wife badly. That he is not that person anymore..he no longer drinks to give himself confidence in social situations ...he mostly behaves like the perfect human being and I believe he has changed.

But I suppose it’s like trying to forgive an affair...the resentment (not surprisingly) can linger long after the event. My therapist and the friends I have now think I should leave now I’ve woken up to what happened but it’s hard...he has these two sides to him and the one that is ‘current’ is the nice side...I find it hard to get my head straight re my feelings for someone who is only abusive once every few years. I almost wish he was abusive more often as I would have left long ago. I’m not sure what I’m asking for really...maybe just a handhold. I should also mention, we have no children and sorry..I hadn’t realised I’d written so much.

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ilikemethewayiam · 25/09/2020 19:42

A huge virtual hug from me OP 💐

Your life will start to turn around now. Your MH will start to improve. Stick with the Therapy to help you through the flash backs and triggers. You will not regret your decision. I’ve been where you are now and I’ve never looked back.

Houserabbit · 25/09/2020 19:58

Thank you so much smileyclare

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Dollyrocket · 25/09/2020 20:12

Well done OP, your story is incredibly chilling.

Here’s to your first night of freedom, lots of deep breaths, things can only move in the right direction now 💐💐💐

S00LA · 25/09/2020 20:32

I’m so glad you are safe and you have good friends looking after you.

Please tell your family the truth - dont say you were mugged. This needs to be the end of you lying for him and covering up What he’s done. If he is charged then they will find out anyway and be upset you lied to them.

You don't need to live in fear anyone. Start the rest of your life in freedom, truth and integrity.

Dollyrocket · 25/09/2020 21:07

I agree with PP, no more lying for this horrific man, please tell your truth and don’t allow him to control your future relationships by creating more lies to protect him. He deserves everyone to know what utter psychopathic scum he is.

Remember, remind and repeat; he was not 95% good, that was a mask.

Houserabbit · 25/09/2020 21:15

During the assault I was in and out of consciousness and wet myself ...because of the head wound there was a lot of blood and he left me on the floor unconscious while he cleaned my blood from the walls and the floor rather than call an ambulance or make sure I was breathing. when I briefly came to I thought I didn’t have long left, so I told him to tell my family I loved them...he walked off and continued cleaning up the scene. This is an outwardly respectable person. I will never ever trust a man again.

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Summerhillsquare · 25/09/2020 21:54

This is one of the most affecting things I have read on here @Houserabbit. You are so incredibly tough- you may not feel it, but one day you will realise how amazing what you've done is.

S00LA · 25/09/2020 21:59

You are finding your anger OP, that’s good. Its hard to deal with but it will give you clarity about the way forward.

LachlanRose · 25/09/2020 22:04

@Houserabbit

That is absolutely.... I don't even have words. If that was something I saw in the movie I would feel that I was watching a sociopath, psychopath.....

That is downright heartless, soulless, evil..... That despicable excuse of a human being deserves to rot. Don't you waste one more minute of your life feeling bad about anything you have done. He was cleaning up the evidence rather than rush to save you..... This man is not like you. He's not like most of us. He's sitting right now thinking of him, it's all he is capable of. He's damaged.

You need to try very hard and think only of you now.

I'm so sorry you went through that..... And I'm so sorry that you know that there are people who are capable of that...... but not everyone is. But you don't have to think of that now, just think of yourself.

I wish you a good night's sleep. You were amazing.

Houserabbit · 25/09/2020 22:06

I’m not amazing at all...I wasted more years than I care to admit living in zombie land...after a few years 3 hours a night sleep does that. The only thing I’m proud of is that I eventually asked for help ...at which point others got me out of this mess...it was only through luck that I met some decent friends after having no one..only through luck that I could just about afford a decent therapist who so happened to be an amazing woman who went far far beyond what a decent therapist usually does.

The hardest thing for me was speaking up...in a world where we woman are used to having to handle it all..this has become hard...I wasn’t ashamed to ask for help but it was the first time in my adult life I’d ever done it....it felt hard and unnatural but it’s saved my life.

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Houserabbit · 25/09/2020 22:14

His mummy and daddy picked him up after he was asked to go...he is a middle aged man. You know what...I actually feel sad for him...I think he had the chance to be a decent human but it was snuffed ... I don’t have little ones, so poorly placed to make any comments about parenting..but Jesus Christ teaching empathy, respect for other people and that actions have consequences is so important.

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S00LA · 25/09/2020 22:24

That’s great he’s away.

Now you need to do some serious work on YOU. No more focussing on him and what he wants and why he does what he does.

Your main project is getting you back to full mental, physical, emotional and spiritual health. That’s going to take all your energy.

LachlanRose · 25/09/2020 22:25

@Houserabbit

It wasn't through luck you met good friends. You met people who wanted to be your friend because if who YOU are and what YOU give to people when you're with them.

It wasn't through luck you could afford a decent therapist.... Your decisions led you there. You did the work finding her. And good that's she's amazing!. You deserve someone amazing.!

You have been living with a monster who hides in plain sight. You have experienced things, awful things that most of us can only imagine and you're doing the hard work of getting to the other side.

You think someone who walks through life with no challenges but who makes good decisions is better than you? Because they bloody aren't!

You are amazing and nothing you can say will convince me otherwise.

And don't feel sad for him. Please. I don't feel sad for him. Nobody listening on this thread feels sad for him. Not one person.

MarriedtoDaveGrohl · 25/09/2020 23:03

^^ what she said

Honestly. Calmly cleaning up the blood? This is a level you will never ever see again this is highest level cold blooded murderer level.

You did so well getting out. Don't look back and blame yourself - it's a zero sum game.

MarriedtoDaveGrohl · 25/09/2020 23:11

House rabbit he meant to kill you - at the very least didn't care if you lived or died. He was cleaning up the evidence. Then you weren't dead so that meant that he was off the hook. But if he had he would have carried on cleaning it up and you would be another statistic with everyone saying he's didn't seem like that kind of guy'.

God. No wonder you havent slept for years.

WellThisIsShit · 25/09/2020 23:11

I think I can relate a bit, when my dear husband (sarcasm) did what he did to me, I lost consciousness for a bit, and came round to him jeering at me for daring to show how injured I was. He said I was faking it for attention, because I was too big and fat and ugly to be hurt by the likes of him. It took a long time for me to realise that it wasn’t true. But sadly it was too late for me to prosecute or get it written up and evidenced.

Even now I have bad, life changing neck problems from it, but because nobody except me can relate it back to that night, and the weeks after when I hid my injuries from everyone... I can’t justice for what he’s done to me, or my little boy.

This sounds awful, but in a way, at least you have some evidence from being half killed that night - oh God, the awful things we end up saying as survivors of men who aren’t well, aren’t normal and aren’t fit to be out with other people, getting into relationships and damaging their bodies, hearts and minds this way.

You’ve done just a Good Thing. You’ve been kind to yourself, and strong for yourself, and that’s amazing. Now, you can stop ‘surviving’ and start living again, start doing some of that healing you are crying out needing to do. And little by little you will heal, now you’ve got the space and the ability to direct some love at yourself.

💝💗💓💞💕❣️💖💝

GalaxyCookieCrumble · 25/09/2020 23:13

Gaslighting narcissist who will forever use you as cannon fodder to deflect the shit he causes. Things will never change, at least you have figured him out early on.

Messwithyerhead · 25/09/2020 23:50

Crying for you here.

I wonder whether now you have found your voice and spoken out, your stutter will go. Sending you all my best wishes x x x

Isthisit22 · 26/09/2020 07:50

So pleased you are safe. Please change the locks and never see him again as he sounds like a sociopath. His lack of remorse is chilling.
Also don't feel embarrassed to say you have PTSD. What you went through is just as traumatic as many combat incidents esp as it was in your own home by someone you loved. Take care of yourself lovely Flowers

MarriedtoDaveGrohl · 26/09/2020 10:39

Yes.., the shame on having PTSD. The thinking you shouldn't have it. Jesus. Let's be very clear about what happened here.

You were attacked without warning with a clear intent to kill, in your own home by the person you trusted and loved most. You survived but make no mistake many wouldn't have. You were 'killed' by your partner - except you didn't die. This is extremely rare and EXTREMELY traumatic. It literally doesn't get worse than this. He left you for dead. He didn't get help. And then you lived with him for years knowing it could happen again.

So forget about this idea of not having good enough reasons to have ptsd. Trust me the reasons for having it don't get any better than this!

It's the weekend and you are safe. Go to bed early and stay in bed till late. Sleep as much as you can. Do what relaxes you. And gave a little look online and find an emdr person for a zoom session.

MarriedtoDaveGrohl · 26/09/2020 10:46

This explains it a little more
breakthesilencedv.org/emdr-and-domestic-violence-how-treatment-can-help/

Find a therapist here www.efficacy.org.uk/therapy/emdr/

More info and a link to the emdr association
www.counselling-directory.org.uk/emdr.html#howdoesemdrwork

tiredvommachine · 26/09/2020 12:30

Trauma is trauma, irrespective of what the trauma was or the circumstances behind it. I would really look into EMDR as it was a life saver for me when I was diagnosed with complex PTSD. Wishing you peace OP x

Houserabbit · 26/09/2020 16:23

I was wondering about EMDR as it’s the only thing I’ve not tried. Does anyone know if it takes a lot of sessions?

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MarriedtoDaveGrohl · 26/09/2020 17:36

House rabbit no it doesn't that's the point! It's around 4-8 sessions if that! Some people feel better after just two. It sounds like it shouldn't work but I know an army guy who uses it in the army for ptsd.

tiredvommachine · 26/09/2020 18:05

My force paid for 12 sessions through OHU but I only needed 6 and that was for some heavy duty crap I'd dealt with as a front line police officer, I had been sceptical but one of my friends recommended it to me and he had the full 12 and he'd had some horrific trauma, the worst our therapist had ever heard so it really does work. I found it hard going and would spend the hour session in tears and would feel drained afterwards but very quickly my sleep improved and I cancelled the sleep study I was due to undertake at Papworth Hospital as my parasomnia cleared up as a result of this treatment.