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bf earns more than me & tells me daily he wants me forever

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Deeplane · 18/09/2020 16:36

Name changed for this.

We've been together for almost 2 years. He is the my bf, best friend and lover, he's wonderful. He tells me he loves me each day and wants to be with me forever. I feel the same. However there is something that has been on my mind. . .

Since we've been together, Ive paid for nearly half of everything. I don't bring in much money (bf has always know this) and due to being a single mum, retraining and having to give up my promising career, I don't bring in much money. Im not 100% sure how much bf earns (I don't pry) but I do know its way above 6 figures. So in effect, he's making 5 times more net than me per month. I do know that he hasn't any capital due to a recent divorce, paying off the ex and has kids at uni to pay for.

We are both generous in nature and so far we've taken it in turns to pay for everything.In the last few months I've been skint and told bf this on text (because I hate talking about money). He's thanked me for telling him and that was where it ended.

These are some of the scenarios that have bothered me lately;

He goes out and buys himself breakfast with Coffee and doesn't ask if I would like anything. When I go to his place, I always ask him what he'd like or just take over food and Wine.

He often comes to my place and I buy, cook and make him a meal with drinks. He rarely does this in return and hasn't cooked for me for 6 months.

Whenever we go out with my 2 children, I always pay for the 4 of us which ends up being pricey. He does offer to contribute on occasion, but this offer seems half hearted so I always politely refuse.

He no longer buys me little gifts like he did in the first year of us being together. Things such as flowers on impulse, duvet covers, inexpensive jewellery, sexy underwear or anything because I said I liked it or he noticed that I needed it. I've bought him items that have broken in his house that need replacing and romantic gifts lately but Im starting to lessen these as I don't receive and don't feel like giving so much these days.

I seem to be paying for more. We used to often go to the pub and buy rounds of drinks/food in turn. Since I told him I'm in overdraft this month, he insisted we go to the pub one evening and bought us 2 rounds. I hate to admit it, but I felt gutted. It isn't what would have happened if the situation was reversed.

Lately he's also made grand gestures to pay for things that I need that I cant afford such as dentistry or solicitors fees.He also offered to be a guarantor for my car loan and didn't follow through so I didn't get the Car. I didn't ASK for it but Im baffled as to why he would even say these things when he wasn't going to follow through with them. Was he trying to make me feel better about my financial situation somehow?

He is very loving in ways that I cannot explain so I don't have a problem with him as a person. Its just that if I were the person who earned much more than the person I love and want forever, I know I would be paying more without question. He is often planning our lives together, as am I.
If I the tables were reversed (which they could be one day), I wouldnt think twice about paying proportionately to our earnings, let alone helping him out in times of need.

He tells me he loves me everyday and is very affectionate but Im heartbroken that he knows this month I'm in overdraft and he hasn't once offered to reimburse me for shopping that I willingly bought him, let alone offered to take me out anywhere.

Having said all this, he may be in a shitty financial position and hasn't told me about it, although he has alluded to it in the past. We haven't discussed the finer details of our finances because we're living separate lives for now.

Please don't analyse my words, I'm in bits about this and hate discussing money which is why it has got this far. Im a kind generous person so please no references to me being a pushover/mug/doormat thanks!

I'm just hoping l'll get some impartial advice here. Am I expecting too much or is this how an equal relationship works these days?

Thanks for reading.

OP posts:
Bluntness100 · 19/09/2020 17:18

Op but you said when you date you go fifty fifty unless it’s you inviting him out with the kids or you cooking for him,, so what do you mean you offer to pay most things?

Hopeisnotastrategy · 19/09/2020 17:18

This is a generalisation, but by and large most men aren't great at picking up on hints. Better to calmly spell it out and talk to him about it.

(Said as one who's had to cross my legs for miles after my lovely kind DH didn't react to my remark that it might be nice to stop at the next services to use the facilities... )

Nowadays I tell it like it is, it's a just a man thing. 🤷‍♀️

MarriedtoDaveGrohl · 19/09/2020 17:27

It doesn't need a big and excruciating conversation about money. Firstly stop offering and taking stuff to his. The precedent has been set that when you go to each other's you take nothing. The person hosting hosts. If you want a holiday and the kids are going you simply say I'm booking this and if you'd like to join that would be great.. but I'm afraid I can't afford to pay! Lots of bills this month sadly.

Hopeisnotastrategy has nailed it - hints don't work. Being brought up not to talk about money is not the same as literally never saying what you would like. They can co exist very easily.

greenette · 19/09/2020 17:33

So who bought the drinks?

LannieDuck · 19/09/2020 18:16

The breakfasts were me staying at his place and him going out to do a chore and returning with food for himself.

Did you ask him where you could get something to eat? Was he embarrassed or confused?

anuffername · 19/09/2020 18:19

Did you ask him where you could get something to eat?

OP has said she fasts most days so it's no wonder he doesn't expect her to want food (doesn't explain not getting her a black coffee though).

GalaxyCookieCrumble · 19/09/2020 18:23

Stop paying for everything, it is that simple, you are buying his affection.

Opentooffers · 19/09/2020 19:14

It's always going to be difficult to keep up halves on a lifestyle with someone who earns 5x what you are on. There comes a time where you just have to stop doing stuff you can't afford.
I'd knock the cooking for him on the head totally, if he takes issue with it, tell him it's his turn. He's now expecting you to cook all the time while never doing so for you, and that's without living together.
If you want to continue a career, this is not likely the guy for you, not if you have expectations of sharing domestic duties, he's showing you already he likes everything done for him without giving back.

EarthSight · 19/09/2020 19:35

Im due a 400k payoff from my divorce.

Wow. This amount of money boggles the mind.

Sunnydaysstillhere · 19/09/2020 19:55

I would announce your divorce payment has been put back a year or 2. Watch his reaction..

Flittingaboutagain · 19/09/2020 19:59

I'm not sure you are wise to be talking about your divorce settlement....

He may earn a lot but he may also have loads of debt and be interested in your money!

Festivalgirl83 · 19/09/2020 20:12

Coming across even more as a princess. Wow.

Havaiana · 19/09/2020 20:46

So does this mean you've had a vent and it's back to the status quo OP?

rosecakequeen · 19/09/2020 20:50

If you don't want to pay your half, you will need to find a man that wants to pay for you. Simple.

SmileyClare · 19/09/2020 21:11

He earns way over 6 figures Still not quite sure what that statement actually means as £999, 999 isn't over six figures but I'm guessing he earns about £250 k a year.

Meanwhile you are waiting for a 400k divorce settlement.

With this in mind, I'm sorry but you are making a mockery of the term "not awash with money" and this is a blatant misuse of the term "skint".

billy1966 · 19/09/2020 22:10

@Sunnydaysstillhere

I would announce your divorce payment has been put back a year or 2. Watch his reaction..
Wise, wise words.👏 Safeguarding words.

Please do this OP.

rosabug · 19/09/2020 22:21

You need to learn to talk about money. I know it's not easy, but so much of your post details incidents infected with reticence, hope, assumptions, but not honest or direct communication.

You need a full open discussion about what he earns, you earn, what both your outgoings are. If he won't then that's the issue. If you can't then that's an issue too.

This is the problem here.

newnameforthis123 · 19/09/2020 22:26

@Sunnydaysstillhere

I would announce your divorce payment has been put back a year or 2. Watch his reaction..
This.
rosabug · 19/09/2020 22:28

eh? just read back over some previous replies

"- My upbringing is from a different culture and I was taught that discussing money so openly is vulgar. Yes, I know Im a adult but such directness doesn't come easily to me"

  • Im due a 400k payoff from my divorce."

What? The combination of these 2 statements tells me all I need to know.

Spoilt, lazy, entitled. And that's you. Grow up.

yesterdaystotalsteps123 · 19/09/2020 22:40

So many things that don't add up. You usually fast but regularly cook for you both and go to the pub? You're getting a 400k settlement and wonderful boyfriend earns 6 figures plus. This is just made up.

BraveGoldie · 19/09/2020 22:51

I am not sure the coffee thing is as weird as it sounds. He went out to do a chore - not to get coffee. He picked something up for himself while out, presumably because he was hungry right then while doing the chore - perhaps it was half consumed by the time he came back. OP fasts- and I assume there's coffee at home if she wanted it. Ok it would be nice if right while he is ordering he thinks of checking, if it would still be hot by the time he's back, but it's not the same as them being together and him explicitly going out to get food and drink for him, and ignoring her. And sounds like it happened once in two years. OP, you sound a bit precious to me..... wanting to be 'taken care of' without asking for what you want clearly...

And what else are we complaining about? That he offered to pay for meals but didn't insist when you turned him down? (Again you not actually being clear about what you want)

That he offered to pay for other expenses, which he "didn't follow up on"? What do you mean by this? That he didn't persistently bring it up? (Perhaps as this is what you think he should do with paying meals....how did you respond to him? "Thank you - that would really help me. How should be go about that?" Or did you say something much less clear that his offer was wanted or welcome (as you did with the dinners?))...., or do you mean he has since refused to do what he offered to do? I don't think the latter, or you would have said so.

So basically, you are unhappy that he is not fulfilling your expectations on money, when you are not expressing those expectations.....

Really that's not his problem.....

Perhaps rather than being after your 400k, he doesn't take your protests about being skint too seriously as he knows you are actually going to be very flush very soon???

giantangryrooster · 19/09/2020 22:56

@gamerchick

Look ,tell him you can't afford to see him atm as it costs you a fortune. He'll probably readily agree to wait and then you can have a think about your future together.

Stop shelling out for stuff. He can afford to replace his own broken shit.

No more days out or anything else that you're paying for in total. Tell him you can't afford to carry another adult. You don't have to mention his income at all.

No more shirt off your back. It's time to stop.

This is spot on advice, even if it was 150 posts ago. Maybe he is tight, maybe he is just not thinking (contributing to food etc) but this is the way to find out and protect your money. Even when you get your divorce settlement you should ask for keep.
billy1966 · 20/09/2020 09:09

Good advice above.

Do it and see how he reacts.

If he says fine, lets take a break, you will know his meanness was absolutely deliberate.

If he says I insist on paying I didn't realise things were so tight with you, you can see how it goes.

I would still mention your settlement is delayed.

Your gut is telling you something is off.
Listen to it.

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