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bf earns more than me & tells me daily he wants me forever

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Deeplane · 18/09/2020 16:36

Name changed for this.

We've been together for almost 2 years. He is the my bf, best friend and lover, he's wonderful. He tells me he loves me each day and wants to be with me forever. I feel the same. However there is something that has been on my mind. . .

Since we've been together, Ive paid for nearly half of everything. I don't bring in much money (bf has always know this) and due to being a single mum, retraining and having to give up my promising career, I don't bring in much money. Im not 100% sure how much bf earns (I don't pry) but I do know its way above 6 figures. So in effect, he's making 5 times more net than me per month. I do know that he hasn't any capital due to a recent divorce, paying off the ex and has kids at uni to pay for.

We are both generous in nature and so far we've taken it in turns to pay for everything.In the last few months I've been skint and told bf this on text (because I hate talking about money). He's thanked me for telling him and that was where it ended.

These are some of the scenarios that have bothered me lately;

He goes out and buys himself breakfast with Coffee and doesn't ask if I would like anything. When I go to his place, I always ask him what he'd like or just take over food and Wine.

He often comes to my place and I buy, cook and make him a meal with drinks. He rarely does this in return and hasn't cooked for me for 6 months.

Whenever we go out with my 2 children, I always pay for the 4 of us which ends up being pricey. He does offer to contribute on occasion, but this offer seems half hearted so I always politely refuse.

He no longer buys me little gifts like he did in the first year of us being together. Things such as flowers on impulse, duvet covers, inexpensive jewellery, sexy underwear or anything because I said I liked it or he noticed that I needed it. I've bought him items that have broken in his house that need replacing and romantic gifts lately but Im starting to lessen these as I don't receive and don't feel like giving so much these days.

I seem to be paying for more. We used to often go to the pub and buy rounds of drinks/food in turn. Since I told him I'm in overdraft this month, he insisted we go to the pub one evening and bought us 2 rounds. I hate to admit it, but I felt gutted. It isn't what would have happened if the situation was reversed.

Lately he's also made grand gestures to pay for things that I need that I cant afford such as dentistry or solicitors fees.He also offered to be a guarantor for my car loan and didn't follow through so I didn't get the Car. I didn't ASK for it but Im baffled as to why he would even say these things when he wasn't going to follow through with them. Was he trying to make me feel better about my financial situation somehow?

He is very loving in ways that I cannot explain so I don't have a problem with him as a person. Its just that if I were the person who earned much more than the person I love and want forever, I know I would be paying more without question. He is often planning our lives together, as am I.
If I the tables were reversed (which they could be one day), I wouldnt think twice about paying proportionately to our earnings, let alone helping him out in times of need.

He tells me he loves me everyday and is very affectionate but Im heartbroken that he knows this month I'm in overdraft and he hasn't once offered to reimburse me for shopping that I willingly bought him, let alone offered to take me out anywhere.

Having said all this, he may be in a shitty financial position and hasn't told me about it, although he has alluded to it in the past. We haven't discussed the finer details of our finances because we're living separate lives for now.

Please don't analyse my words, I'm in bits about this and hate discussing money which is why it has got this far. Im a kind generous person so please no references to me being a pushover/mug/doormat thanks!

I'm just hoping l'll get some impartial advice here. Am I expecting too much or is this how an equal relationship works these days?

Thanks for reading.

OP posts:
Batshitbeautycosmeticsltd · 18/09/2020 17:50

Im a kind generous person so please no references to me being a pushover/mug/doormat thanks!

But you are. Hmm So cut it out. Don't invite him any more. Don't go to his house and bring fcking wine and shopping. Just TELL him. 'I can't afford to date you anymore. I'm in debt over it. Going to have to pull back from this.'

Emmie12345 · 18/09/2020 17:52

@Deeplane take the emotion out of it. Tell him you don’t hAve much spare cash and would like him to help . Tell him you are happy to contribute but proportionally so

He prob thinks you’re fine if you never talk about finances

holdmysocks · 18/09/2020 17:53

If you're saying the relationship is over, you really have nothing to lose by putting it all out in the open.

Money can be an awkward topic in a relationship, particularly when you earn unequal amounts, but if you manage to sort it out then your relationship will be much stronger from dealing with it.

Plussizejumpsuit · 18/09/2020 17:56

Are you sure he is actually a high earner?

Heffalooomia · 18/09/2020 17:56

He also offered to be a guarantor for my car loan and didn't follow through so I didn't get the Car
he likes the idea of being a generous person, he likes the way he feels when he makes the verbal offer but he doesnt want to actually part with his actual money, his feelings just dont go that deep

rayoflightboy · 18/09/2020 17:57

Im confused.you said you go out with your 2 dc.And you pay for 4 people to get in and its pricey.

Are you expecting him to pay for your dc.

I think you need to tell him you cant afford things,and to be fair what he earns has nothing to do with you.

You dont have kids with him nor live with him.He has his own kids to worry about.

So just pay for yourself and stop offering to buy him stuff.

Aerial2020 · 18/09/2020 17:57

I'm sure you do focus on your children

I meant focus your money on your children and not a man. Like others have said, if you can't afford something for him, don't spend it.
Does he like having a woman that cooks for him and looks after him all the time?
You're not so mother.

Frenchfancy · 18/09/2020 18:00

You say he's your best friend but it doesn't sound like it to me. My bf wouldn't treat me like this. This is giving me warning signs tbh. You need to talk about finances in a frank and open way. 2 years is a long time to be dancing around the issues.

Emmie12345 · 18/09/2020 18:00

It sounds to me more like you and he need a chat about a shared vision of what you and he look like - seems like it’s more casual than you want it to be ? Just find a way to talk about it, men are dense sometimes , you need to just say how you want things to be

Havaiana · 18/09/2020 18:02

@rayoflightboy

Im confused.you said you go out with your 2 dc.And you pay for 4 people to get in and its pricey.

Are you expecting him to pay for your dc.

I think you need to tell him you cant afford things,and to be fair what he earns has nothing to do with you.

You dont have kids with him nor live with him.He has his own kids to worry about.

So just pay for yourself and stop offering to buy him stuff.

I think OP's gripe is he doesn't even for himself, the tight bastard. He probably justifies it by thinking the day out for the kids. Knob.
Havaiana · 18/09/2020 18:02

*doesn't even pay for himself

PrimoPiatti · 18/09/2020 18:02

Step 1. Find out his take home pay.

Step 2. Pay in proportion to income.

If he doesn't like it, find someone else .

ukgift2016 · 18/09/2020 18:03

This is crazy right...but why don't you...try talking to your boyfriend about this? Crazy right!!? But it actually may help.

lynsey91 · 18/09/2020 18:03

Sorry but he is not your best friend if you can't talk to him about money. You should be able to talk about everything.

Why do you not know how much he earns? I have always known what DH earns and he has always known what I earn.

No way should you be trying to pay for things equally if he earns much more than you. A decent man would never expect that.

If you normally go to the pub and spend a fair amount of time there and have quite a few drinks then he was really mean to only buy 2 rounds.

Closetbeanmuncher · 18/09/2020 18:03

He's stingy and greedy...he offers these "grand gestures" because he knows you won't accept them, but won't put his hand in pocket for the day to day (which he knows you would accept). Reminds me a bit of the Harry Enfield character "I'm considerably richer than yowwww"

Exhibit A:

Since we've been together, Ive paid for nearly half of everything. I don't bring in much money

Exhibit B:

In the last few months I've been skint and told bf this on text (because I hate talking about money). He's thanked me for telling him and that was where it ended

See on the day to day he won't help you out.

He earns way above 6 figures but won't offer breakfast when buying for himself???

I do know that he hasn't any capital due to a recent divorce, paying off the ex and has kids at uni to pay for

Literally not your problem, you are a single mother. You have to provide for your child, not a played out, skin-flint divorcee.

That would tell me everything I needed to know I'm afraid

Apple222 · 18/09/2020 18:07

My mum used to say you can tell a lot about a man by what he buys you. I used to think that was pretty strange but the most genuine men I have met...the ones I could actually rely on and had some moral fibre to them...were also generous. I don’t mean in big ways but in those small, everyday ways that mean a lot. That would include realising you are broke and offering to buy you, or make you, tea.

I finished a relationship over beans on toast. I had driven to see my boyfriend who lived two hours away. I had been working all day and was exhausted. I hadn’t eaten anything all day. He prepared beans on toast for himself and didn’t offer me anything, I ended up going to the corner shop to get a sandwich and bag of crisps. I knew then that this relationship couldn’t go further.

It isn’t about money, it’s about thoughtfulness.

holdmysocks · 18/09/2020 18:10

Apple222 Oh my god... I can't imagine doing that to anyone, let alone my partner! Well rid.

Pebblexox · 18/09/2020 18:10

My husband is a tight git, and I mean tight. However we discussed our finances probably around a year into our relationship (we knew sort of what the other earnt/spent but not too in depth)
How have you been in a relationship with this guy for two years without him knowing how much you struggle financially? Have you been getting yourself into debt instead of telling him you simply can't afford something? Have you ever said no because of money? Have you given him a chance to offer to pay?

Apple222 · 18/09/2020 18:18

@holdmysocks I agree. Thinking about it I had driven for three hours, not two. Not that it makes any difference because, like you, I wouldn’t prepare anything for myself without asking whoever I was with if they wanted some...

I remember to this day how tired and hungry I was and how I knew then he didn’t actually care about me.

oakleaffy · 18/09/2020 18:18

Wealthy people can be some of the most tight @rsed out there.
Millionaire chap one NYD put £2 in a parking meter when he didn’t need to, and he went on about it all day!
We had breakfast at Liberty and he didn’t eat his jam in one of those little pots, so I took it- and he was appalled!
Double standards 😂?

Sunnyset · 18/09/2020 18:20

I mean this kindly OP, but this is a you problem.
You don’t live together, he has no financial responsibility towards you .
You are the one choosing to throw yours and your kids money at this bloke.
If he comes out with you and the kids- he pays for himself.
If he wants to eat, he doesn’t mosey over yours to have a full cooked meal, he can buy and cook his own food.
As for buying him shopping and things for his home. Let him buy his own shit.
If you can’t afford a meal out, you don’t go.
If you don’t stop shelling out for this guy you’ll end up with a cocklodger on your hands.
Also you seem really focused on this relationship, have you got a good support system outside of it?

Afibtomyboy · 18/09/2020 18:23

Op

You are a single mother on a tight budget

The way to look at it is that by subsidising him you are depriving your children of money that could be spent on THEM

Candyfloss99 · 18/09/2020 18:24

@alfrew

I thought it was a typo at first and that he had let you buy the drinks OP. Now I don't get what you mean at all.
I think she means she wanted way more than 2 drinks!
willowmelangell · 18/09/2020 18:25

That your bf earns a good salary, leads me to thinks he is, in day to day, surrounded by people who also earn a good salary.
No matter how great he is, and his best bits sound great, he is not a mind reader.

You say you can text about money but can't talk face to face. Ok. That is a really good starting point. Any invitation via text, you reply, ' 'I would love to see you but skint until payday .' or 'Mum drummed into me to always go Dutch, but sadly, after school uniforms, just can't manage that this week.'
And stop cooking for him! Invite him around after you and dc have eaten!
Good luck x

wildcherries · 18/09/2020 18:31

He is the my bf, best friend and lover, he's wonderful.

I will never understand women saying this about their boyfriends, but then they can't speak to them about things that are important. Makes zero sense. He isn't wonderful, then.